Learning to hear with spiritual ears

[kerwin]

One day a Samaritan woman decided to go to a well were a midlle aged man was sitting.  The man was an exhausted traveler who asked her for a drink.  She was surprised that a Jew would ask one of the Samaritan sect for a drink and expressed her surprise.  The man then told her that if she knew who he was and if she knew the gift of God then she would ask for a drink of water and he would give he living water.  This confused her as the well was deep and she could see the man had no means to draw water from it.   She being fairly outspoken let him know that.  He went on to speak telling her the water he would give her was superior to that which is in the well since after drinking it one would not thirst again.  She then desired the water as she would not have to come back to the well again and again each  day.  As the conversation goes on she realizes he is not speaking of physical water but is instead speaking of spiritual water.  

It seems that many hear are not making that final jump with scriptures and so view some from the physical point of view instead of the spiritual and thus are depriving themselves of that living water.

This story is based on John 4:4:6-26

[GeneBalthrop]

Kerwin……….i believe that also, the lack of seeing through SPIRITUAL eyes can present a problem in our understandings of what is written. I believe parables are a good example of understanding spiritual points. It would be good if we had a thread on Just parables alone. imo

[kerwin]

Gene,

It is not only the parables that are written to be heard with spiritual ears. Jesus often spoke in code that can only be truly understood by those listening with spiritual ears.

[GeneBalthrop]

kerwin……..i also agree with that to. Much in scripture takes Spiritual eyes and ears to understand. Many just surface read and miss the true meanings implied. I believe those who are GOD'S elect have been given those eyes and ears to understand scriptures. IMO

[942767]

Hi:

There is a hymn that goes like this: “Like the woman at the well I was seeking for things that did not satisfy, and then I heard my savior speaking, draw from the well that never shall run dry.

Fill my cup Lord, I lift it up Lord, come and quench the thirsting of my soul, bread of heaven fill me till I want no more, fill my cup, I lift it up and make me whole.”

Love in Christ,
Marty

[kerwin]

To all others as well as Gene,

God led me to read John 6 which is an example of a spiritual teaching where the people were listening with the ears of this world.  Jesus told them they should work for food that endures to eternal life instead of food that spoils and they failed to understand.  He also told them to eat his flesh and drink his blood and once more they failed to hear.  He also told them he was the bread that came down from heaven and once more they did not have their spiritual ears on and so began to grumble.  

In verse 63 he states outright:

John 6:63(NIV) reads:

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“The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.”

This was not a parable and yet Jesus was speaking spiritually as opposed to literally.

Thank you Marty for your comment.

[terraricca]

hi kerwin

if someone has ears and eyes and you are deaf and blind as to the word of God ,it is most likely that he stands in between the word and God free given understanding.

Jas 4:1 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you?
Jas 4:4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Jas 4:5 Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?
Jas 4:6 But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says:
“God opposes the proud
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.

Jas 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
Jas 3:18 Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness

1Pe 1:14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance.
1Pe 1:15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do;
1Pe 1:16 for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”

[kerwin]

terraricca,

If you are stating that evil desires stand between some and their understanding of what God is truly stating then I agree.

[terraricca]

hi Kerwin

those scriptures talk for them self but just to make it clear if you have love between brothers James would not have shown this comments,wen he do not conform to the evil desire ,what that means??
is not the desire to do your personal will and desire and put them over your brothers?

Mt 20:26 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant,
Mt 20:27 and whoever wants to be first must be your slave—
Mt 20:28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

so your personal ego is the one who stand in between you and God you may not see God but you see your brothers if your ego over comes you it is fighting against God and you are sinning against God as well as your brother.Love for God you do not live like the world

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
Then why do you glorify human 'wisdom' like logic and inference??

[terraricca]

all

there is many comment build up in many topics and it looks more and more that people come here to let there ego burst,the one who want to to teach the world what they know and the way they see it ,

scriptures is only secondary to there point of view,
they argue on words who would not help any one in the world today or the one to come,
the expression of God will is done trough our love for him,because then God can give all things he as promised to give to his righteous.

many sow the wind and will get a storm from God in return.

if you place God ahead of yourself we would not have discussions one worthless topics

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2010,11:14)

all scriptures is only secondary to there point of view, they argue on words who would not help any one in the world today or the one to come, the expression of God will is done trough our love for him,because then God can give all things he as promised to give to his righteous. Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

Sounds like you described 'yourself' pretty good! (Matt.7:2)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2010,22:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2010,11:14) all scriptures is only secondary to there point of view, they argue on words who would not help any one in the world today or the one to come, the expression of God will is done trough our love for him,because then God can give all things he as promised to give to his righteous. Pierre Hi Terraricca, Sounds like you described 'yourself' pretty good! (Matt.7:2) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

hi edj

how is your book going?

Pierre

[terraricca]

edj and other

Ro 2:19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
Ro 2:20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
Ro 2:21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
Ro 2:22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
Ro 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2010,15:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2010,11:14) all scriptures is only secondary to there point of view, they argue on words who would not help any one in the world today or the one to come, the expression of God will is done trough our love for him,because then God can give all things he as promised to give to his righteous. Pierre Hi Terraricca, Sounds like you described 'yourself' pretty good! (Matt.7:2) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ………..Amen to that brother.

peace and love………………….gene

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2010,00:04)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2010,22:28) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2010,11:14) all scriptures is only secondary to there point of view, they argue on words who would not help any one in the world today or the one to come, the expression of God will is done trough our love for him,because then God can give all things he as promised to give to his righteous. Pierre Hi Terraricca, Sounds like you described 'yourself' pretty good! (Matt.7:2) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org hi edj how is your book going? Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

You mean the book about “the proof of God's existence”,
I have three remaining chapters to write, why do you ask?

Thanks for asking!
Ed J (Romans 12:18)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The pharisees did not hear what God said through Jesus Christ.
We can be more careful when we listen

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The wrong perceptions of the pharisees led them to murder.
They thought that they were serving God.
They did not know the Spirit

[thehappyman]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 13 2010,20:12)

It is not only the parables that are written to be heard with spiritual ears.  Jesus often spoke in code that can only be truly understood by those listening with spiritual ears.

Hi Kerwin ,
I don't know about a ” code ” but , yes, when we are in supplication and in deep studying the bible begins to talk to the reader ; and the reader should be attentive and surrendered ….

[Ed J]

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 15 2012,09:25)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 13 2010,20:12) It is not only the parables that are written to be heard with spiritual ears.  Jesus often spoke in code that can only be truly understood by those listening with spiritual ears. Hi Kerwin , I don't know about a ” code ” but , yes,  when we are in supplication and in deep studying the bible begins to talk to the reader ; and the reader should be attentive and surrendered ….

Hi Happyman,

“IF” there was a 'a code', what would be the best think it could do?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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