Know your enemy-ephesians 5:11

[mikeboll64]

I hope Wm's illness hasn't gotten the better of him.

(I'm up to section 27 now, and it's still pretty good stuff.)

[seekingtruth]

Mike,
Still kicking, just hard to focus on issues.

Wm

[Wakeup]

Quote (seekingtruth @ May 14 2013,01:47)

Mike, Still kicking, just hard to focus on issues. Wm

Seekingtruth.

You will be fine young man.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

I'm glad you're still kicking!

There's really not any reason for you to respond, Wm. My posts were more to show you how I currently understand it.

I was just running it by you to see what you thought.

[terraricca]

Eph 5:8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light
Eph 5:9 (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth)
Eph 5:10 and find out what pleases the Lord.
Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
Eph 5:12 For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.
Eph 5:13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible,
Eph 5:14 for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said:
“Wake up, O sleeper,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.”

-so we are our own enemy ,for not following Christ ,and so the enemy is within us ,but if it is the truth that we are looking for then Christ is near and so is his light

[seekingtruth]

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Quote (seekingtruth @ April 18 2013,09:48) Genesis 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” St That was before Satan became to existence on earth ,what scripture would you use after their sin,???

Psalm 115:16 The heavens — the heavens [are] Jehovah's, And the earth He hath given to sons of men

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2013,11:52) Quote (seekingtruth @ April 18 2013,09:48) Genesis 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” St That was before Satan became to existence on earth ,what scripture would you use after their sin,??? Psalm 115:16 The heavens — the heavens [are] Jehovah's, And the earth He hath given to sons of men

seektr

but that is also a reminder of what was done by God in the beginning when he created man,no ?

[seekingtruth]

Pierre
So a couple of thousand years later they mark it in song that “God gave the earth to man” but they failed to mention that He changed the deal along the way and took it back, giving it to satan instead… really?

Wm

[terraricca]

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Pierre So a couple of thousand years later they mark it in song that “God gave the earth to man” but they failed to mention that He changed the deal along the way and took it back, giving it to satan instead… really? Wm

Skt

Why would God take back what never left his hand

by letting Satan do his ways on men ,God as turn Satan in a productive being ,because now all righteous men that came through Satan deceit ,are ready for God

[mikeboll64]

Quote (seekingtruth @ June 11 2013,18:07)

Pierre So a couple of thousand years later they mark it in song that “God gave the earth to man” but they failed to mention that He changed the deal along the way and took it back, giving it to satan instead… really? Wm

Luke 4
5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.

When do you suppose this happened, Wm?

[seekingtruth]

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Why would God take back what never left his hand

“God gave the earth to man” at the point it left His hand!

Wm

[terraricca]

Quote (seekingtruth @ June 12 2013,08:15)

Quote Why would God take back what never left his hand “God gave the earth to man” at the point it left His hand! Wm

skt

Ge 2:15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
Ge 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

are you sure it left his hand if yes tell me how it did

[seekingtruth]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,10:11)

Quote (seekingtruth @ June 11 2013,18:07) Pierre So a couple of thousand years later they mark it in song that “God gave the earth to man” but they failed to mention that He changed the deal along the way and took it back, giving it to satan instead… really? Wm Luke 4 5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. When do you suppose this happened, Wm?

I believe it was when man obeyed satan it “gave” him dominion.

Mike/terraricca – What scripture supports that it was God Who gave it to satan?

Thanks Wm

[terraricca]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 08 2013,22:54)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,10:11) Quote (seekingtruth @ June 11 2013,18:07) Pierre So a couple of thousand years later they mark it in song that “God gave the earth to man” but they failed to mention that He changed the deal along the way and took it back, giving it to satan instead… really? Wm Luke 4 5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. When do you suppose this happened, Wm? I believe it was when man obeyed satan it “gave” him dominion. Mike/terraricca – What scripture supports that it was God Who gave it to satan? Thanks Wm

skt

understand that Satan received authority over men ,meaning that he could interfere in men's affairs, just as he did with Job,

[seekingtruth]

If satan has dominion then why did he have to get permission to touch Job. Are you advocating that the permission he got to attack Job was a blanket permission for the next few thousand years to all of man?

Wm

[terraricca]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 09 2013,01:12)

If satan has dominion then why did he have to get permission to touch Job. Are you advocating that the permission he got to attack Job was a blanket permission for the next few thousand years to all of man? Wm

skt

yes,in a way
this is what i mean he control men or influence men ,but as limited powers ,as we can see in the book of Job,

this is also to test all creation ,until God's time is come to its end then the return of Christ will come this would put a temporary close to Satan influence for 1000 years

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ July 09 2013,07:55)

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 09 2013,01:12) If satan has dominion then why did he have to get permission to touch Job. Are you advocating that the permission he got to attack Job was a blanket permission for the next few thousand years to all of man? Wm skt yes,in a way this is what i mean he control men or influence men ,but as limited powers ,as we can see in the book of Job, this is also to test all creation ,until God's time is come to its end then the return of Christ will come this would put a temporary close to Satan influence for 1000 years

Terra.

I agree;God is holding the axe in his hand.
At the coming the axe will be put in prison
for a 1000years.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 08 2013,10:54)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,10:11) Luke 4 5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. When do you suppose this happened, Wm? I believe it was when man obeyed satan it “gave” him dominion. Mike/terraricca – What scripture supports that it was God Who gave it to satan? Thanks Wm

I don't think any scripture specifically says that it was God who gave it to Satan, Wm. I just assumed it must have been God, because who else would have owned ALL the kingdoms of the world before giving them to Satan?

[Proclaimer]

Just about to watch these videos.
In the first one the Tower of Babel looks like New Zealand's Parliament. It has been dubbed the Beehive. Built in the 70s, the design was inspired by a famous painting of the Tower of Babel. Sometimes I think what comes out of there is from Babylon too.

New Zealand Parliament

European Parliament  (morph)

Painting of Babel.

[seekingtruth]

Mike,
What do you believe this scriptures means then? Psalm 115:16 (NIV) 16 The highest heavens belong to the Lord, but the earth he has given to mankind.

Blessings brother – Wm

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