Just brought to my attention

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct?

bod

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let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct?

first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction ,

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre

So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct?

bod

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So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct?

I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God;

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre

No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right?

bod

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No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right?

what is it you are after ?

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:54)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? bod Quote No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? what is it you are after ? Pierre

believe in God directly

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,05:29)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 16 2012,22:41) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 16 2012,12:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 16 2012,12:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2012,12:01) IN THIS YOU ARE TOTALLY TRUE; wen you roll open your carpet to kneel down toward Mecca and pray to honor Muhammad ,Allah prophet the god of Muslims you will not do what Christ is asking of his disciples,so what is print is for nothing just to show and meaningless to all Muslim and others Muslims are lips servicing Christ God and father ,you do not have to talk lies to what all men knows I have read the Koran and it is not for the God of the Jews , Pierre Is your Bible TRUE or FALSE? it says WHOEVER confesses that JESUS is CHRIST is born of GOD. IS THAT TRUE or FALSE? Hi BD, you show inconstancy here? Here you are saying that the bible is true and correct but, the bible, in many other instances, you try to prove false? Do you admit that the bible is true? <– PLEASE ANSWER B'shem YHVH BD? It shouldn't matter what I believe about the bible since I am not making a claim that it is without fault, you are making that claim but there is no doubt that it has been tampered with it is a fact that whole entire passages have been added or removed for instance: in the 8th century 1John 5:7,8, was changed to say in the King James Version “there are 3 that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: {and these 3 are one”.}  added. However the general message of believing in God and Christ are true

Hi BD,

I agree 1John 5:7 was added; are you suggesting
that the baby be thrown out with the bathwater?
Meaning: are you suggesting it is untrustworthy? <– Please answer

B'shem
YHVH

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,05:24)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2012,22:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 16 2012,19:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2012,12:01) IN THIS YOU ARE TOTALLY TRUE; wen you roll open your carpet to kneel down toward Mecca and pray to honor Muhammad ,Allah prophet the god of Muslims you will not do what Christ is asking of his disciples,so what is print is for nothing just to show and meaningless to all Muslim and others Muslims are lips servicing Christ God and father ,you do not have to talk lies to what all men knows I have read the Koran and it is not for the God of the Jews , Pierre Is your Bible TRUE or FALSE? it says WHOEVER confesses that JESUS is CHRIST is born of GOD. IS THAT TRUE or FALSE? bod it is both; true to the truthful believers , false to the hypocrites, so if you are a true believer in the God of Christ then it is true ; otherwise it is false because your hypocrisies of your heart, Pierre So you believe the verse is False because it says “Whoever” and you don't believe it means “Whoever”

Hi BD,

Devils believed Jesus was the “Son of God”, but did that help them? (Matt.8:29)
No. why not?  Because they did not believe in him, nor his ransom sacrifice.

The fact that muslims say “Christ” means nothing,
because islam is the 'spirit of antichrist', denying the
Father(HolySpirit=151), and the Son(Jesus Christ=151).

1 John 2:22

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2012,16:00)

Hi BD, Devils believed Jesus was the “Son of God”, but did that help them? (Matt.8:29) No. why not?  Because they did not believe in him, nor his ransom sacrifice. The fact that muslims say “Christ” means nothing, because islam is the 'spirit of antichrist', denying the Father(HolySpirit=151), and the Son(Jesus Christ=151). 1 John 2:22

So what the devils believed Jesus was the son of God I said Muslims believe that Jesus is The Christ where do you see devils calling him Christ in the bible? All kinds of devils today say that Jesus is the son of God Muslims don't say that because God has no sons all are but SERVANTS

ALL MUslims believe that Jesus is THE CHRIST snet into the world by GOD ALMIGHTY

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2012,15:50)

Hi BD, I agree 1John 5:7 was added; are you suggesting that the baby be thrown out with the bathwater? Meaning: are you suggesting it is untrustworthy? <– Please answer B'shem YHVH

There are plenty of more things that were added and as I said the message of repentance for the remission of sins is not untrustworthy but other details are untrustworthy if they have been added or embellished

Is 1 John 5:7 a trustworthy verse?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,22:13)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? bod Quote No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? what is it you are after ? Pierre believe in God directly

Bod

How can you go to g
God directly if he tells us to go through his son Christ??

Do not like the way of God ,?? If not ,

Then you are done there is no other way

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,05:15)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,22:13) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? bod Quote No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? what is it you are after ? Pierre believe in God directly Bod How can you go to g God directly if he tells us to go through his son Christ?? Do not like the way of God ,?? If not , Then you are done there is no other way Pierre

Where does GOD say go through his son Christ?

The scripture says:

New International Version (©1984)

James 4:8

Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Where is the go through Christ part? This is the book of James so it is after Christ so why is James saying you can draw near to God and God will draw near to you?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 18 2012,12:30)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,05:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,22:13) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? bod Quote No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? what is it you are after ? Pierre believe in God directly Bod How can you go to g God directly if he tells us to go through his son Christ?? Do not like the way of God ,?? If not , Then you are done there is no other way Pierre Where does GOD say go through his son Christ? The scripture says:   New International Version (©1984) James 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Where is the go through Christ part? This is the book of James so it is after Christ so why is James saying you can draw near to God and God will draw near to you?

bod

1Ti 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,16:35)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 18 2012,12:30) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,05:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,22:13) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? bod Quote No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? what is it you are after ? Pierre believe in God directly Bod How can you go to g God directly if he tells us to go through his son Christ?? Do not like the way of God ,?? If not , Then you are done there is no other way Pierre Where does GOD say go through his son Christ? The scripture says:   New International Version (©1984) James 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Where is the go through Christ part? This is the book of James so it is after Christ so why is James saying you can draw near to God and God will draw near to you? bod 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Pierre

I thought you said that Christ reconciled you to God if you have been reconciled why would you still need a mediator?

A mediator is someone between two non reconciled sides, so have you been reconciled to God or are you saying you will be recociled to God?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 18 2012,23:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,16:35) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 18 2012,12:30) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,05:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,22:13) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,06:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,13:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2012,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,12:41) John 7:53-8:11 is not found in any place in any of the earliest surviving Greek Gospel manuscripts why were people adding things that were not there bod you changing subject look at the Koran you Muslims can not come to agree on what is what ,and all is interpretation, lies and what not ; I just asked a question why so hostile? bod why are you  so sensitive ?? Sorry, So why were so many verses added? I guess it doesn't matter as long as the main message is there. So, let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? bod Quote let me get this right the first thing I should do if I want to be a Christian is to not believe that God can save me without Christ, correct? first you should learn the scriptures and see if what you understand is good for you ,if not good why bother with it ,but if you feel this letter of God is for you and you would like to be blessed by it ,then you are on your way to be a believer in God and in the redemption of his son ,and this will change your live by following the direction , Pierre So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? bod Quote So your opinion is I should not believe in God directly, correct? I think this would be the first thing ;why would you go in the bible if you do not believe in God ,the bible being the book of God; Pierre No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? bod Quote No I already believe in God directly but your opinion is I should not do that right? what is it you are after ? Pierre believe in God directly Bod How can you go to g God directly if he tells us to go through his son Christ?? Do not like the way of God ,?? If not , Then you are done there is no other way Pierre Where does GOD say go through his son Christ? The scripture says:   New International Version (©1984) James 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Where is the go through Christ part? This is the book of James so it is after Christ so why is James saying you can draw near to God and God will draw near to you? bod 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Pierre I thought you said that Christ reconciled you to God if you have been reconciled why would you still need a mediator? A mediator is someone between two non reconciled sides, so have you been reconciled to God or are you saying you will be recociled to God?

bod

a mediator also negotiate the conditions under witch the agreement would be valid ,right ,?? yes

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 18 2012,05:30)

Where does GOD say go through his son Christ?

Hi BD,

Jesus said:  “no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”  (John 14:6-7)

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2012,17:16)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 18 2012,05:30) Where does GOD say go through his son Christ? Hi BD, Jesus said:  “no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”  (John 14:6-7) B'shem YHVH

I said where did God say that and you quote a verse from Jesus, is Jesus God?

Also even agreeing with the verse why do you consider that statement beyond whom he was speaking to and was sent to(the lost sheep of the house of Israel) If that is whom he was sent to then isn't that who he was talking to?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2012,16:45)

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If the death was the condition of payment what would need to be mediated the debt has been paid for everyone once and for all according to you

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If the death was the condition of payment what would need to be mediated the debt has been paid for everyone once and for all according to you

if you would place more time and heart to the scriptures you would not need to ask me ,the answers are in scriptures,but can you leave the Koran ?NO you are after all Muslim ,right ??

and so it does not matter what I say ,you never will be or understand Gods truth from scriptures ,

so the only reason for you to ask question to Christians is to try to show your miss understanding and share it with them,hoping that they do not have to much knowledge so that you can feed them to your false god Allah and his religion

Pierre

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2012,05:14)

bod Quote If the death was the condition of payment what would need to be mediated the debt has been paid for everyone once and for all according to you if you would place more time and heart to the scriptures you would not need to ask me ,the answers are in scriptures,but can you leave the Koran ?NO you are after all Muslim ,right ?? and so it does not matter what I say ,you never will be or understand Gods truth from scriptures , so the only reason for you to ask question to Christians is to try to show your miss understanding and share it with them,hoping that they do not have to much knowledge so that you can feed them to your false god Allah and his religion Pierre

So you don't know the answer?

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