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  • #271074
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?

    #271077
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #271132
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?

    #271163
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    bod

    see you do not understand very little in scriptures the Koran does not give you that light,

    you rather kill the truth of God and kiss the false prophet ,

    and you by this have chosen the darkness;

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

    Pierre

    #271235
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,04:48)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    bod

    see you do not understand very little in scriptures the Koran does not give you that light,

    you rather kill the truth of God and kiss the false prophet ,

    and you by this have chosen the darkness;

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

    Pierre


    Wow! You didn't answer the question you just insulted me for asking it

    #271283
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,20:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,04:48)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    bod

    see you do not understand very little in scriptures the Koran does not give you that light,

    you rather kill the truth of God and kiss the false prophet ,

    and you by this have chosen the darkness;

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

    Pierre


    Wow! You didn't answer the question you just insulted me for asking it


    bod

    if i lied show me ,if I did not lie then I did not insult you ,but told the truth,

    Pierre

    #271292
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,01:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    (1)If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? (2)What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    Hi BD,

    These are good questions, I just hope you will receive the answers.

    1) 1 John 2:2 And he(Jesus Christ) is the propitiation for our sins:
        and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

    2) “[YHVH hath said], I will dwell in them, and walk in them;” (2 Cor 6:16)

    One of the reasons you need YHVH to tabernacle in YOU (a personal Pentecost),
    then you won't need me(witness of YHVH) to cypher numbers for you! (Link)

            3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #271320
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,22:12)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,20:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,04:48)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    bod

    see you do not understand very little in scriptures the Koran does not give you that light,

    you rather kill the truth of God and kiss the false prophet ,

    and you by this have chosen the darkness;

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

    Pierre


    Wow! You didn't answer the question you just insulted me for asking it


    bod

    if i lied show me ,if I did not lie then I did not insult you ,but told the truth,

    Pierre


    Here is the question again:

    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?

    #271322
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,09:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,22:12)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,20:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,04:48)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,08:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,13:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,09:30)
    Hi BD,

    I see you play musical translations too.
    Here is another unbiased translation,
    since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…

    (Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia

    I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    so his spirit died?


    No BD, our spirit doesn't die.
    The key word was die though,
    and I'm glad you picked up on it.

    “because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    bod

    see you do not understand very little in scriptures the Koran does not give you that light,

    you rather kill the truth of God and kiss the false prophet ,

    and you by this have chosen the darkness;

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

    Pierre


    Wow! You didn't answer the question you just insulted me for asking it


    bod

    if i lied show me ,if I did not lie then I did not insult you ,but told the truth,

    Pierre


    Here is the question again:

    If our spirit cant die then how did Jesus die for you? What was the sacrifice when he said the flesh profiteth nothing?


    bod

    the answer lays into the plan of God describe into his word throughout the prophets ,explain by Paul and Peter,and John,

    but not explained by the Koran or Muhammad because of there false direction away from the true God ,

    Pierre

    #271325
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)
    Hi BD,

    These are good questions, I just hope you will receive the answers.

    1) 1 John 2:2 And he(Jesus Christ) is the propitiation for our sins:
        and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

    2) “[YHVH hath said], I will dwell in them, and walk in them;” (2 Cor 6:16)

    One of the reasons you need YHVH to tabernacle in YOU (a personal Pentecost),
    then you won't need me(witness of YHVH) to cypher numbers for you! (Link)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?

    As regard to the scripyures you pointed out:

    1) 1 John 2:2 And he(Jesus Christ) is the propitiation for our sins:
    and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

    I have been Inspired by God to tell you that when someone like a Jesus is taken away unexpectedly it is not unusual for others to try to make sense of the loss by explaining it in a grand sense because of their crises of faith that occurs. It is lke when a little baby dies and the people are so hurt and confused they start saying that the baby was really a little angel that God needed back in heaven. Or when a likeable sinner dies that people were close to and suddenly everyone who warned the person of hell suddenly turns away from the idea claim he must have went to heaven because they can't bear the thought of the person going to hell

    #271338
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #271344
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,03:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Hi ED

    Not the equation, what is the “meaning”?

    #271345
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,03:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH


    For out of your mouth you judge
    people and condemn. Now follow me
    with Honesty & Love and watch!
    Witness the Real. Jesus curses a fig
    tree out of season why? So Asana
    Bodhitharta could figure it out.
    Jesus never spoke of food, literally he
    could have made figs appear but that
    would seem natural, but to figure out
    why he cursed the fig tree is to
    understand the nature of ham, who
    when his father was drunk Ham made
    Noah feel ashamed for not covering
    him up as God did when Adam and
    Eve were ashamed so
    17
    Jesus said “ If you are ashamed
    of me in front of my Father I will
    be ashamed of you. Do you
    understand Ham is the sed of
    the word AsHamed and sin is
    really pronounced sign just like
    sine wave. Sincerely since sin is
    a sign. Why? Because you
    wanted to eat from the tree the
    tree that you learned 8 from and
    you erred on a 7 I told you 7 is
    Hallowed it is whole 1-2-4=7
    3.68421052631578947
    xsdddddd9xxxdddddddd9xxxdd
    ddddd\kiso if 1,8 9 then 7,8 9
    and you know only 286 because
    789 would express 24 a sum of 6
    and that is sum of the truth but
    you want the whole truth and I
    told you not to eat but 2- 8-6
    even though an
    expression of 7, I told
    him1to1for 2 to eat. I
    said,”eat1to2, even 2 to 4
    but not 4 to 8 and 1-8-6 and got 6. 7-
    8-6 and got 6 again so 8-8-6 and 8 got
    6. 48 were gathered and I said not to
    4,8 because you sin on a seven 1,2,4 =
    seven but 7-8-9 is an expression of 6.
    And that cant be true because if 7-8-
    9 then it would express nine instead of
    6 see 7+8+9 = 24 an expression of 6
    and
    2,4,8 is 14 an expression of 5 if you
    add 1it will express 6 so what
    happened to 7? 7 is 4,2,1 the whole
    truth 7 is 4 thirds as a whole 1.
    7+7+7+7=28 expressed as 2+8 or 2*8
    1to 7 is as 8 is to 26 because 2+6
    expresses true 8 and 2*6 expresses 12
    which is 1+2=3 which is true 2,3,6 but
    3,4,7 is the whole truth 3+4+7= 14
    7=88*5
    88*5=440
    440/7=62.9
    1=1,7,8=16=1+6=7
    10-7’s equal 8 so 70 is 8
    1,7,70,
    3.4*7=13.6+3.4=17=1+7=8 or 1*7 = 7

    What does this riddle mean?

    #271346
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    It has something to do with a Sine wave

    #271354
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,05:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,03:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Hi ED

    Not the equation, what is the “meaning”?


    Hi BD,

    Quote
    So Asana Bodhitharta could figure it out.


    But Asana Bodhitharta could NOT figure it out; that's why he called on a true “witness” of YHVH, who could!
    You said that if I could figure it out, I was a true “witness” of YHVH; what caused you to change your mind?

    I believe you were given that number amongst all that other babbling (located here),
    to prove to you that I was a true “witness” of YHVH;  knowing I would solve it five years later.
    I believe this was a sign to get you to leave false religion and return to your first love. (Rev. 2:4-5)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #271364
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,07:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,05:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,03:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Hi ED

    Not the equation, what is the “meaning”?


    Hi BD,

    Quote
    So Asana Bodhitharta could figure it out.


    But Asana Bodhitharta could NOT figure it out; that's why he called on a true “witness” of YHVH, who could!
    You said that if I could figure it out, I was a true “witness” of YHVH; what caused you to change your mind?

    I believe you were given that number amongst all that other babbling (located here),
    to prove to you that I was a true “witness” of YHVH;  knowing I would solve it five years later.
    I believe this was a sign to get you to leave false religion and return to your first love. (Rev. 2:4-5)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Ed you didn't figure out what I figured out in fact you didn't figure out anything except an equation that may or may not have any signifigance because it is the meaning not the equation which is the issue now if you know about Sine waves and the frequency of 3.68421052631578947 you may have some sort of point, do you?

    #271476
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,09:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,07:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,05:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,03:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Hi ED

    Not the equation, what is the “meaning”?


    Hi BD,

    Quote
    So Asana Bodhitharta could figure it out.


    But Asana Bodhitharta could NOT figure it out; that's why he called on a true “witness” of YHVH, who could!
    You said that if I could figure it out, I was a true “witness” of YHVH; what caused you to change your mind?

    I believe you were given that number amongst all that other babbling (located here),
    to prove to you that I was a true “witness” of YHVH;  knowing I would solve it five years later.
    I believe this was a sign to get you to leave false religion and return to your first love. (Rev. 2:4-5)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Ed you didn't figure out what I figured out in fact you didn't figure out anything except an equation that may or may not have any signifigance because it is the meaning not the equation which is the issue now if you know about Sine waves and the frequency of 3.68421052631578947 you may have some sort of point, do you?


    Hi BD,

    The point is for you to come out of 'false religion'. (Rev.18:4-5)

    B'shen
    YHVH

    #271504
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,02:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,09:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,07:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,05:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,03:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,03:01)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,22:53)

                3.68421052631578947 (9th post on Link)  

    Witness (Joshua 22:34)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    So what is the “meaning” of that number?


    Hi BD,

    420 ÷ 114

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Hi ED

    Not the equation, what is the “meaning”?


    Hi BD,

    Quote
    So Asana Bodhitharta could figure it out.


    But Asana Bodhitharta could NOT figure it out; that's why he called on a true “witness” of YHVH, who could!
    You said that if I could figure it out, I was a true “witness” of YHVH; what caused you to change your mind?

    I believe you were given that number amongst all that other babbling (located here),
    to prove to you that I was a true “witness” of YHVH;  knowing I would solve it five years later.
    I believe this was a sign to get you to leave false religion and return to your first love. (Rev. 2:4-5)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Ed you didn't figure out what I figured out in fact you didn't figure out anything except an equation that may or may not have any signifigance because it is the meaning not the equation which is the issue now if you know about Sine waves and the frequency of 3.68421052631578947 you may have some sort of point, do you?


    Hi BD,

    The point is for you to come out of 'false religion'. (Rev.18:4-5)

    B'shen
    YHVH


    What is religion, do you know?

    Jerimiah 7

    5 If you really change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, 6 if you do not oppress the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods to your own harm, 7 then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your ancestors for ever and ever.

    You believe that it was acceptable to God that Innocent blood was shed(Jesus) perhaps you worship a false God and follow them to your harm

    Pure religion:

    James 1:26
    Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.

    As much venom that comes off of your tongue speaking slanderously of others how can your religion have value?

    James 1:27
    Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

    Do you do this ED? Stop talking about religion unless you are ready to show actions of Love and Honesty

    #271508
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    1 Peter 1:18-21 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things,
    as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
    But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
    Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest
    in these last times for you, Who by him do believe in God, that raised [Jesus] up
    from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #271510
    terraricca
    Participant

    bod

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    Do you do this ED? Stop talking about religion unless you are ready to show actions of Love and Honesty

    it is in organized religion that you learn to lie and so lost you honesty;:D

    look at you as a Muslim you accept to do what a violent men is teaching ,you are willing to hide and use deceit to cover up the truth of their reality ,

    so it is with most if not all so called christian religions well organized to take all the material things in this world that they can ,and hide their corruption,

    Pierre

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