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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,15:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,06:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,13:34) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,06:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,09:49) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2012,14:15) bod If I say yes to that that would be placing God below men ,does God commit murder ??
Pierre
You're funny.I said Moses did it you said God told him to
I say God told him to and you say that puts God below men
So I guess the question is how did those 3000 people die?
I am glad you have made these answers it proves so much of what I have been saying about people like you who don't even know God but preach God to others.
bodwhat 3000 people
scriptures
Pierre
Exodus 32:26-28King James Version (KJV)
26Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
27And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
28And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.
bodEx 32:19 When Moses approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, his anger burned and he threw the tablets out of his hands, breaking them to pieces at the foot of the mountain.
is it about this ??
and so result in ;27And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side
Pierre
However you arrive at the reason, who killed these people?
boddo you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,11:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Who ordered the killing?Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,11:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Who ordered the killing?
BodGod did,ex32:27
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,21:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,11:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Who ordered the killing?
BodGod did,ex32:27
Pierre
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,09:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,21:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,11:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Who ordered the killing?
BodGod did,ex32:27
Pierre
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?
bodQuote 6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.my question was did Christ message change this ?
you quoted God,
Quote Pierre 6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?[/QUOTE]Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”Pierre
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,05:52) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 04 2012,03:26) Hi BD, why do you post all these different versions of the Qur'an? Quote Al-Baqara, Aal-e-Imran, Saba, Al-Hashr, Al-Araf
Is this because you can't find “one” that you can count on?.
Hi EdThanks for asking but those names you listed are not versions of the Quran they are the titles in Arabic of the chapters
Chapter 2 in english is “The Cow” in Arabic it is “Al-Baqura
Chapter 3 in english is “The family of Imran” in Arabic it is Aal-e-Imran, …etc
It's like when I keep explaining to you in english you say “The God” in Arabic it is “ALLAH” not some different God
1.Al-Fatihah (The Opening)
2.Al-Baqarah (The Cow)
3.Al-Imran (The Family of Amran)
4.An-Nisa (The Women)
5.Maidah (The Food)
6.Al-Anam (The Cattle)
7.Al-Araf (The Elevated Places)
8.Al-Anfal (Voluntary Gifts)
9.Al-Baraat (The Immunity)
10.Al-Yunus (Jonah)
11.Al-Hud (Hud)
12.Al-Yusuf (Joseph)
13.Al-Rad (The Thunder)
14.Al-Ibrahim (Abraham)
15.Al-Hijr (The Rock)
16.Al-Nahl (The Bee)
17.Bani Israil (The Israelites)
18.Al-Kahf (The Cave)
19.Al-Maryam (Mary)
20.Ta Ha (Ta Ha)
21.Al-Anbiya (The Prophets)
22.Al-Hajj (The Pilgrimage)
23.Al-Muminun (The Believers)
24.An-Nur (The Light)
25.Al-Furqan (The Discrimination)
26.Al-Shuara (The Poets)
27.Al-Naml (The Naml)
28.Al-Qasas (The Narrative)
29.Al-Ankabut (The Spider)
30.Ar-Rum (The Romans)
31.Luqman (Luqman)
32.Al-Sajdah (The Adoration)
33.Al-Ahzab (The Allies)
34.Al-Saba (The Saba)
35.Al-Fatir (The Originator)
36.Ya Sin (Ya Sin)
37.Al-Saffat (Those Ranging in Ranks)
38.Sad (Sad)
39.Az-Zumar (The Companies)
40.Al-Mumin (The Believer)
41.Ha Mim (Ha Mim)
42.Ash-Shura (Counsel)
43.Az-Zukhruf (Gold)
44.Ad-Dukhan (The Drought)
45.Al-Jathiyah (The Kneeling)
46.Al-Ahqaf (The Sandhills)
47.Muhammad (Muhammad)
48.Al-Fath (The Victory)
49.Al-Hujurat (The Apartments)
50.Qaf (Qaf)
51.Al-Dhariyat (The Scatterers)
52.At-Tur (The Mountain)
53.An-Najm (The Star)
54.Al-Qamar (The Moon)
55.Ar-Rahman (The Beneficent)
56.Al-Waqiah (The Event)
57.Al-Hadid (Iron)
58.Al-Mujadilah (The Pleading Woman)
59.Al-Hashr (The Banishment)
60.Al-Mumtahanah (The Woman who is Examined)
61.As-Saff (The Ranks)
62.Al-Jumuah (The Congregation)
63.Al-Munafiqun (The Hypocrites)
64.At-Taghabun (The Manifestation of Losses)
65.At-Talaq (Divorce)
66.At-Tahrim (The Prohibition)
67.Al-Mulk (The Kingdom)
68.Al-Qalam (The Pen)
69.Al-Haqqah (The Sure Truth)
70.Al-Maarij (The Ways of Ascent)
71.Nuh (Noah)
72.Al-Jinn (The Jinn)
73.Al-Muzzammil (The One Covering Himself)
74.Al-Muddaththir (The One Wrapping Himself Up)
75.Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection)
76.Al-Insan (The Man)
77.Al-Mursalat (Those Sent Forth)
78.An-Naba (The Announcement)
79.An-Naziat (Those Who Yearn)
80.Abasa (He Frowned)
81.At-Takwir (The Folding Up)
82.Al-Infitar (The Cleaving)
83.At-Tatfif (Default in Duty)
84.Al-Inshiqaq (The Bursting Asunder)
85.Al-Buruj (The Stars)
86.At-Tariq (The Comer by Night)
87.Al-Ala (The Most High)
88.Al-Ghashiyah (The Overwhelming Event)
89.Al-Fajr (The Daybreak)
90.Al-Balad (The City)
91.Ash-Shams (The Sun)
92.Al-Lail (The Night)
93.Ad-Duha (The Brightness of the Day)
94.Al-Inshirah (The Expansion)
95.At-Tin (The Fig)
96.Al-Alaq (The Clot)
97.Al-Qadr (The Majesty)
98.Al-Bayyinah (The Clear Evidence)
99.Al-Zilzal (The Shaking)
100.Al-Adiyat (The Assaulters)
101.Al-Qariah (The Calamity)
102.At-Takathur (The Abundance of Wealth)
103.Al-Asr (The Time)
104.Al-Humazah (The Slanderer)
105.Al-Fil (The Elephant)
106.Al-Quraish (The Quraish)
107.Al-Maun (Acts of Kindness)
108.Al-Kauthar (The Abundance of Good)
109.Al-Kafirun (The Disbelievers)
110.An-Nasr (The Help)
111.Al-Lahab (The Flame)
112.Al-Ikhlas (The Unity)
113.Al-Falaq (The Dawn)
114.An-Nas (The Men)
Hi BD,So you admit the name of YOUR god is 'LAH', because “AL” means “THE”, right?
B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2012,02:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,09:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,21:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,11:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Who ordered the killing?
BodGod did,ex32:27
Pierre
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?
bodQuote 6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.my question was did Christ message change this ?
you quoted God,
Quote Pierre 6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?[/QUOTE]Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”Pierre
So in revelations it shows that God will kill, correct?Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2012,03:57) Hi BD, So you admit the name of YOUR god is 'LAH', because “AL” means “THE”, right?
B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)
First of all you should show respect for your God and my God because it is the same God. Do you understand that no other has the right to be called God except God? If you understand that then you should understand that “The God” is ALLAH, notice there is no hyphen nor can it be pluralized as when you say “gods”There are NO gods there is only “The God” singular. One day if you ever understand you will feel embarrased and ask God Almighty to forgive you for mocking Him. This will occur on the day of judgement to those who were in disbelief and arorgant. Right now you are acting out of ignorance but I have informed you over and over where you are erring so you will be soon without excuse and permanently blinded by your own willful ignorance.
Hi BD,
Funny that you believe an imposter was crucified for Jesus;
but 'YOU' reject, at the same time, Jesus' sacrifice for you.
What' you going to say when you stand in front of YHVH?B'shem
YHVHHi BD,
You keep saying there are no partners with 'al-LAH',
but you keep posting “WE”; who is “WE” in 'the-LAH'?B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,16:41) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2012,02:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,09:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,21:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,11:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2012,10:18) bod do you think that Christ changed this ?
but what as the Koran from 630AD as to do with this ??
Pierre
Malachi 3:6New King James Version (NKJV)
6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.Who killed those 3000?
bodthey killed themselves by doing the wrong against God
the priests where only used to execute the act ,Pierre
Who ordered the killing?
BodGod did,ex32:27
Pierre
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?
bodQuote 6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.my question was did Christ message change this ?
you quoted God,
Quote Pierre 6“ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
So is it your position that God doesn't do this type of thing anymore?Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”Pierre[/quote]
So in revelations it shows that God will kill, correct?
bodKill? more like destroy
but all this seems to be seen yet
Pierre
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2012,19:01) Hi BD, You keep saying there are no partners with 'al-LAH',
but you keep posting “WE”; who is “WE” in 'the-LAH'?B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)
The Answer is in how you understand the word ELOHIMQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2012,10:05) Hi BD, Funny that you believe an imposter was crucified for Jesus;
but 'YOU' reject, at the same time, Jesus' sacrifice for you.
What' you going to say when you stand in front of YHVH?B'shem
YHVH
I didn't say an imposter was crucified for Jesus but even if I did it would still make sense for someone wicked like Judas to have been in his place since the actual death of Judas is a mysteryExodus 23:7
Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.Genesis 18:25
That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?See you believe God spilled innocent BLOOD something he constantly rejects and testifies he hates
Hi BD,
You continually pick and choose what part of God's word to believe; aye?
Isaiah 53:10-12 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin(death an burial), he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days(ressurection), and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous
servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was
numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,04:14) Hi BD, You continually pick and choose what part of God's word to believe; aye?
Isaiah 53:10-12 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin(death an burial), he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days(ressurection), and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous
servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was
numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)
Isaiah 53:10-12 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin(Ed says:death an burial)/(Asana says:Does not have to mean death and burial), he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days(ED says:ressurection)/ (Asana says:Prolong cannot mean resurrection as resurrection is starting over or new life not a Prolonging of life) , and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous
servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was
numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.Hi BD,
You conveniently overlook this part? …because this is the part you deny; right?
“because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)
B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,08:46) Hi BD, You conveniently overlook this part? …because this is the part you deny; right?
“because he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isaiah 53:12)
B'shem (in the Name of)
YHVH (the everlasting God)
Isaiah 53:12Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
12Therefore I give a portion to him among the many, And with the mighty he apportioneth spoil, Because that he exposed to death his soul, And with transgressors he was numbered, And he the sin of many hath borne, And for transgressors he intercedeth.
Hi BD,
I see you play musical translations too.
Here is another unbiased translation,
since you don't like the AJKV Bible here…(Google) Therefore I will divide – a public, and – huge divide the spoil under which Haֱra die spirit and – among crimes and is a sin – many carrying and crimes Ifgia
I highlighted the part of concern here, this is the part you deny; right?
B'shem
YHVH
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