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- July 27, 2010 at 3:35 am#206117mikeboll64Blocked
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,13:17) Hi MB,
Why do you think that?
Do you disagree with Ps 104?
Nick,Just answer the question Nick.
Is God's Holy Spirit, which is a part OF Him, His only begotten Son through whom everything was created?
mike
July 27, 2010 at 3:46 am#206120Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Now I understand why you see others that disagree as thinking they are better than the rest!
God bless, Nick.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 27, 2010 at 3:46 am#206122NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
The Spirit of God is one and proceeds from God.
However portions of the Spirit have been given to Men.
God blessed Elijah with His Spirit and Elisha asked for and received a double portion.John the baptist was later anointed with the same portion.
Jesus was given the fulness of God's Spirit[jn3]-every aspect of power and knowledge.God did not pour afresh from His Spirit as shown in Jl2 but Jesus had to return to God before that portion would be shared.[Jn7, acts2]
Jesus is alive in the one Spirit and he and His Father can be known by his brothers-the Lord is the Spirit.
His sonship is by that Spirit anointing.
But the Father is not the Son.July 27, 2010 at 3:59 am#206124NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
The soul of the Son is not the soul of God.
But they share the same SpiritJuly 27, 2010 at 4:20 am#206139mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,14:59) Hi MB,
The soul of the Son is not the soul of God.
But they share the same Spirit
Nick, it's as simple as this. God begot a Son before all the ages. Through that Son, God created everything that has ever been created. Not through a “spirit of Christ”, but through His only begotten Son, who AFTER he was begotten, was SENT into the world as the one through whom God would save us.He is called “the Word” in John 1:1. He was WITH God in the beginning. All things came into existence through him. Get it? HE and HIM, not “the spirit of Christ”.
mike
July 27, 2010 at 4:23 am#206141NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
So you say.
But can you rethink things?
The WORD does not discern between the vessel and the anointing.The vessel was born of Mary
July 27, 2010 at 4:50 am#206149ArnoldParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,15:23) Hi MB,
So you say.
But can you rethink things?
The WORD does not discern between the vessel and the anointing.The vessel was born of Mary
So you deny that Jesus came from
Heaven to do the will of His Father? Thhat He was the firstborn of all creation and that He in all consist?July 27, 2010 at 4:56 am#206153ArnoldParticipantJohn 1:1 Tells us that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God. And in verse 14 yjay Word became flesh. We know that nobody has seen Jehovah Gods form or heards His voice. So it is Jesus that came from Heaven and gecame flesh. In Rev. 19:13-16 it tells us that Jesus will come again as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. ……Irene
July 27, 2010 at 5:22 am#206157Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ July 23 2010,07:07) Quote (Arnold @ July 23 2010,02:21) What I find so ironic is that in both of my post nobody has challenged me, why? Is it that it is true that The Word of God is Jesus Christ? …..Irene
Hi Irene,NO; this is what you have been taught in the systems of religion!
The systems of religion and traditions of men do communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God(HolySpirit) is: “The Word”(John 1:1)!
Jesus is: “a word” … NOT “THE WORD”!(Lōgôs) [λογος]=373 means “Word”, and 373 is the 74th Prime Number!
(Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 means “The Word” and 443 is the 86th Prime Number. (John 1:1)
“God Word”=86 and אלהים=86 ĔL-ō-Hêêm both equal 86 and ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 means “YHVH”=63.You (Irene) will need to study this for a while for you to grasp “Bible Truth”=117!
In English, the significant number (74) is attributed to JOSHUA=74, Messiah=74;
also in the following: JESUS=74, Cross=74, Gospel=74, עד=74, and even English=74.
Jesus Christ (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
[Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
[Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).one hundred and forty four thousand=373 (Rev.14:3)
JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS=373 (John 19:19)It's a simple matter of simple number associations, I will illustrate what they mean…
I'm lining up these ideas up better for you to see what the numbers represent; OK?The “HolySpirit” is “The Word”(of God)!
Hebrew=Greek
(86)אלהים=ο λογος(86th Prime)
(ĔL-ō-Hêêm)God=The Word(Hō Lōgôs)God=86 in Hebrew and “The Word”=86 in Greek ARE EQUAL.
Theomatic numbers to prime number counterparts. (John 1:1)This symbol ( > ) means GREATER THAN in mathematics
The pieces FIT together perfectly: “The Word” (86) > “Word” (74).
In English it's comparable to (The LORD JEHOVAH) > (Lord Jesus=74) is the “God Son”=74!
“The Owner” > “Owner “
JEHOVAH > Jesus
86 > 74The… “Paradox” is (JEHOVAH)God(=86) is both equal and unequal to (greater than and equal to) Jesus=74(God Son=74)!
HolySpirit151 is The LORD JEHOVAH151 and the HolySpirit's Son is “Jesus Christ”151! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)
John 1:1: “The Word”(HolySpirit) is God(The LORD JEHOVAH). And our family goes by the title (AKJV) LORD of Hosts=151!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Everybody,“The Word” was (and is) GOD! (John 1:1)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 27, 2010 at 7:12 am#206164NickHassanParticipantHi Irene,
Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
That Word is Of God and is God.July 28, 2010 at 4:27 am#206460mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12) Hi Irene,
Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
That Word is Of God and is God.
No Nick.Jesus came from heaven. He says so. What scripture says “the spirit of Christ came from heaven”? And the Word was with THE God, and was divine.
mike
July 28, 2010 at 4:44 am#206464Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2010,15:27) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12) Hi Irene,
Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
That Word is Of God and is God.
No Nick.Jesus came from heaven. He says so. What scripture says “the spirit of Christ came from heaven”? And the Word was with THE God, and was divine.
mike
Hi Mike,“The Word” is (אלהים) “GOD”! (John 1:1)
“The Word” (Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 is the 86th prime
meaning [אלהים=86] “GOD” ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 (YHVH=63)!The spirit of Christ came from heaven…
1 Peter 1:10-11 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently,
who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner
of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them (2 Peter 1:21) did signify, when it testified
beforehand the sufferings of Christ(Ps.22:1-24), and the glory that should follow. (Acts 1:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 28, 2010 at 5:24 am#206469NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?July 28, 2010 at 8:32 am#206499Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24) Hi MB,
By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?
Hi Nick,There is no verse saying any such thing, yet
the systems of religion nevertheless teach it?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 28, 2010 at 1:35 pm#206524ArnoldParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24) Hi MB,
By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?
John 1:1 says that the Word became flesh in verse 14. Which God became flesh. Not Jehovah God because noone has seen His form or heard His voice. But Jesus did. Also in
Rev. 19:13 “He was clothed with a robe dpped in blood, and His name is “The Word of God.'verses 14and 15 is good also.
verse 16 And He has a name written on His thigh and on His robe: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. We sahould all know who that is……will you believe it Nick?…… IreneJuly 28, 2010 at 9:57 pm#206582Ed JParticipantQuote (Arnold @ July 29 2010,00:35) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24) Hi MB,
By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?
John 1:1 says that the Word became flesh in verse 14. Which God became flesh. Not Jehovah God because noone has seen His form or heard His voice. But Jesus did. Also in
Rev. 19:13 “He was clothed with a robe dpped in blood, and His name is “The Word of God.'verses 14and 15 is good also.
verse 16 And He has a name written on His thigh and on His robe: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. We sahould all know who that is……will you believe it Nick?…… Irene
Hi Irene,Why do you keep bolstering the traditions of men? (Matt.15:5-9)
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.“HolySpirit“ = “Father: The Word“ … (Click Here)
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and
“The Word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
he gave me a commandment, what I(Jesus) should say, and what I should speak.“The Word” is (אלהים) “GOD” (John 1:1)! Jesus is “A Word”!
“The Word” (Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 is the 86th prime
meaning [אלהים=86] “GOD” ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 (YHVH=63)!The “HolySpirit” is “The Word”(of God)!
Hebrew=Greek
(86)אלהים=ο λογος(86th Prime)
(ĔL-ō-Hêêm)God=The Word(Hō Lōgôs)(Lōgôs) [λογος]=373 means “Word”, and 373 is the 74th Prime Number!
(Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 means “The Word” and 443 is the 86th Prime Number. (John 1:1)
“God Word”=86 and אלהים=86 ĔL-ō-Hêêm both equal 86 and ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 means “YHVH”=63.In English, the significant number (74) is attributed to JOSHUA=74, Messiah=74;
also in the following: JESUS=74, Cross=74, Gospel=74, עד=74, and even English=74.
Jesus Christ (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
[Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
[Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).This symbol ( > ) means GREATER THAN in mathematics
The pieces fit together perfectly: “The Word” (86) > “Word” (74).
In English it's comparable to (The LORD JEHOVAH) > (Lord Jesus=74) is the “God Son”=74!
“The Owner” > “Owner “
JEHOVAH > Jesus
86 > 74Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 28, 2010 at 11:53 pm#206591ArnoldParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12) Hi Irene,
Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
That Word is Of God and is God.
Nick! And that Word became flesh? verse 14? I don't think so. The Word of God is Jesus. Rev. 19:13 and verse 16 makes it clear to me….like I said to Gene, I have proven it to myself, I cannot prove it to you, but Scriptures does and God's Holy Spirit has taught me…. If you want to deny it, that is your business. As far as I am concerned I am not calling Jesus a liar. He said He came from Heaven to do the Fathers will, and I believe Him…..IreneJuly 29, 2010 at 12:56 am#206616Ed JParticipantQuote (Arnold @ July 29 2010,10:53) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12) Hi Irene,
Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
That Word is Of God and is God.
Nick! And that Word became flesh? verse 14? I don't think so. The Word of God is Jesus. Rev. 19:13 and verse 16 makes it clear to me….like I said to Gene, I have proven it to myself, I cannot prove it to you, but Scriptures does and God's Holy Spirit has taught me…. If you want to deny it, that is your business. As far as I am concerned I am not calling Jesus a liar. He said He came from Heaven to do the Fathers will, and I believe Him…..Irene
Hi Irene,'Don't bother me(Irene) with the FACTS, because I(Irene) already have my mind made up'.
The traditions of men are very hard to give up aren't they? (Col.2:22-23)
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 29, 2010 at 1:56 am#206625mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24) Hi MB,
By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?
Are you serious Nick?Irene has answered this enough times for you already. How do you come to think the one called “Word of God” in Rev, a book John wrote before he wrote his gospel, is not “the Word” in John 1?
mike
July 29, 2010 at 2:06 am#206630shimmerParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,19:12) Hi Irene,
Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
That Word is Of God and is God.
Interesting, could you speak further on this please, or point me to another page or something, thank you - AuthorPosts
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