John 1

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  • #206117
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,13:17)
    Hi MB,
    Why do you think that?
    Do you disagree with Ps 104?


    Nick,

    Just answer the question Nick.

    Is God's Holy Spirit, which is a part OF Him, His only begotten Son through whom everything was created?

    mike

    #206120
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Now I understand why you see others that disagree as thinking they are better than the rest!

    God bless, Nick.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #206122
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of God is one and proceeds from God.
    However portions of the Spirit have been given to Men.
    God blessed Elijah with His Spirit and Elisha asked for and received a double portion.

    John the baptist was later anointed with the same portion.
    Jesus was given the fulness of God's Spirit[jn3]-every aspect of power and knowledge.

    God did not pour afresh from His Spirit as shown in Jl2 but Jesus had to return to God before that portion would be shared.[Jn7, acts2]

    Jesus is alive in the one Spirit and he and His Father can be known by his brothers-the Lord is the Spirit.

    His sonship is by that Spirit anointing.
    But the Father is not the Son.

    #206124
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The soul of the Son is not the soul of God.
    But they share the same Spirit

    #206139
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,14:59)
    Hi MB,
    The soul of the Son is not the soul of God.
    But they share the same Spirit


    Nick, it's as simple as this. God begot a Son before all the ages. Through that Son, God created everything that has ever been created. Not through a “spirit of Christ”, but through His only begotten Son, who AFTER he was begotten, was SENT into the world as the one through whom God would save us.

    He is called “the Word” in John 1:1. He was WITH God in the beginning. All things came into existence through him. Get it? HE and HIM, not “the spirit of Christ”.

    mike

    #206141
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    So you say.
    But can you rethink things?
    The WORD does not discern between the vessel and the anointing.

    The vessel was born of Mary

    #206149
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,15:23)
    Hi MB,
    So you say.
    But can you rethink things?
    The WORD does not discern between the vessel and the anointing.

    The vessel was born of Mary


    So you deny that Jesus came from
    Heaven to do the will of His Father?   Thhat He was the firstborn of all creation and that He in all consist?

    #206153
    Arnold
    Participant

    John 1:1 Tells us that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God. And in verse 14 yjay Word became flesh. We know that nobody has seen Jehovah Gods form or heards His voice. So it is Jesus that came from Heaven and gecame flesh. In Rev. 19:13-16 it tells us that Jesus will come again as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. ……Irene

    #206157
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2010,07:07)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 23 2010,02:21)
    What I find so ironic is that in both of my post nobody has challenged me, why?   Is it that it is true that The Word of God is Jesus Christ?  …..Irene


    Hi Irene,

    NO; this is what you have been taught in the systems of religion!
    The systems of religion and traditions of men do communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    God(HolySpirit) is: “The Word”(John 1:1)!
    Jesus is: “a word”   … NOT “THE WORD”!

    (Lōgôs) [λογος]=373 means “Word”, and 373 is the 74th Prime Number!
    (Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 means “The Word” and 443 is the 86th Prime Number. (John 1:1)
    “God Word”=86 and אלהים=86 ĔL-ō-Hêêm both equal 86 and ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 means “YHVH”=63.

    You (Irene) will need to study this for a while for you to grasp “Bible Truth”=117!

    In English, the significant number (74) is attributed to JOSHUA=74, Messiah=74;
    also in the following: JESUS=74, Cross=74, Gospel=74, עד=74, and even English=74.
    Jesus Christ (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
    [Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
    [Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).

    one hundred and forty four thousand=373 (Rev.14:3)
    JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS=373 (John 19:19)

    It's a simple matter of simple number associations, I will illustrate what they mean…
    I'm lining up these ideas up better for you to see what the numbers represent; OK?

    The “HolySpirit” is “The Word”(of God)!
                  Hebrew=Greek
                (86)אלהים=ο λογος(86th Prime)
    (ĔL-ō-Hêêm)God=The Word(Hō Lōgôs)

    God=86 in Hebrew and “The Word”=86 in Greek ARE EQUAL.
    Theomatic numbers to prime number counterparts. (John 1:1)

    This symbol ( > ) means GREATER THAN in mathematics
    The pieces FIT together perfectly: “The Word” (86) > “Word” (74).
    In English it's comparable to (The LORD JEHOVAH) > (Lord Jesus=74) is the “God Son”=74!
                                                          “The Owner” > “Owner “
                                                               JEHOVAH > Jesus
                                                                        86 > 74

    The… “Paradox” is (JEHOVAH)God(=86) is both equal and unequal to (greater than and equal to) Jesus=74(God Son=74)!
    HolySpirit151 is The LORD JEHOVAH151 and the HolySpirit's Son is “Jesus Christ”151! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)
    John 1:1: “The Word”(HolySpirit) is God(The LORD JEHOVAH). And our family goes by the title (AKJV) LORD of Hosts=151!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Everybody,

    “The Word” was (and is) GOD! (John 1:1)

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #206164
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Irene,
    Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
    The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
    That Word is Of God and is God.

    #206460
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12)
    Hi Irene,
    Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
    The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
    That Word is Of God and is God.


    No Nick.

    Jesus came from heaven. He says so. What scripture says “the spirit of Christ came from heaven”? And the Word was with THE God, and was divine.

    mike

    #206464
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2010,15:27)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12)
    Hi Irene,
    Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
    The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
    That Word is Of God and is God.


    No Nick.

    Jesus came from heaven.  He says so.  What scripture says “the spirit of Christ came from heaven”?  And the Word was with THE God, and was divine.

    mike


    Hi Mike,

    “The Word” is (אלהים) “GOD”! (John 1:1)

    “The Word” (Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 is the 86th prime
    meaning [אלהים=86] “GOD” ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 (YHVH=63)!

    The spirit of Christ came from heaven…
    1 Peter 1:10-11 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently,
    who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner
    of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them (2 Peter 1:21) did signify, when it testified
    beforehand the sufferings of Christ(Ps.22:1-24), and the glory that should follow. (Acts 1:8)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #206469
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?

    #206499
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24)
    Hi MB,
    By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?


    Hi Nick,

    There is no verse saying any such thing, yet
    the systems of religion nevertheless teach it?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #206524
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24)
    Hi MB,
    By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?


    John 1:1 says that the Word became flesh in verse 14. Which God became flesh. Not Jehovah God because noone has seen His form or heard His voice. But Jesus did. Also in
    Rev. 19:13 “He was clothed with a robe dpped in blood, and His name is “The Word of God.'verses 14and 15 is good also.
    verse 16 And He has a name written on His thigh and on His robe: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. We sahould all know who that is……will you believe it Nick?…… Irene

    #206582
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 29 2010,00:35)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24)
    Hi MB,
    By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?


    John 1:1 says that the Word became flesh in verse 14.  Which God became flesh.  Not Jehovah God because noone has seen His form or heard His voice.  But Jesus did.  Also in
    Rev. 19:13 “He was clothed with a robe dpped in blood, and His name is “The Word of God.'verses 14and 15 is good also.
    verse 16 And He has a name written on His thigh and on His robe: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  We sahould all know who that is……will you believe it Nick?…… Irene


    Hi Irene,

    Why do you keep bolstering the traditions of men? (Matt.15:5-9)
    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

                HolySpirit = Father: The Word  … (Click Here)

    John 14:24  He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and
    The Wordwhich ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
    John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
    he gave me a commandment, what I(Jesus) should say, and what I should speak.

    “The Word” is (אלהים) “GOD” (John 1:1)! Jesus is “A Word”!
    “The Word” (Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 is the 86th prime
    meaning [אלהים=86] “GOD” ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 (YHVH=63)!

    The “HolySpirit” is “The Word”(of God)!
                  Hebrew=Greek
                (86)אלהים=ο λογος(86th Prime)
    (ĔL-ō-Hêêm)God=The Word(Hō Lōgôs)

    (Lōgôs) [λογος]=373 means “Word”, and 373 is the 74th Prime Number!
    (Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 means “The Word” and 443 is the 86th Prime Number. (John 1:1)
    “God Word”=86 and אלהים=86 ĔL-ō-Hêêm both equal 86 and ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 means “YHVH”=63.

    In English, the significant number (74) is attributed to JOSHUA=74, Messiah=74;
    also in the following: JESUS=74, Cross=74, Gospel=74, עד=74, and even English=74.
    Jesus Christ (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
    [Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
    [Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).

    This symbol ( > ) means GREATER THAN in mathematics
    The pieces fit together perfectly: “The Word” (86) > “Word” (74).
    In English it's comparable to (The LORD JEHOVAH) > (Lord Jesus=74) is the “God Son”=74!
                                                              “The Owner” > “Owner “
                                                                    JEHOVAH > Jesus
                                                                              86 > 74

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #206591
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12)
    Hi Irene,
    Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
    The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
    That Word is Of God and is God.


    Nick! And that Word became flesh? verse 14? I don't think so. The Word of God is Jesus. Rev. 19:13 and verse 16 makes it clear to me….like I said to Gene, I have proven it to myself, I cannot prove it to you, but Scriptures does and God's Holy Spirit has taught me…. If you want to deny it, that is your business. As far as I am concerned I am not calling Jesus a liar. He said He came from Heaven to do the Fathers will, and I believe Him…..Irene

    #206616
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 29 2010,10:53)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:12)
    Hi Irene,
    Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
    The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
    That Word is Of God and is God.


    Nick!  And that Word became flesh?  verse 14?  I don't think so.  The Word of God is Jesus.  Rev. 19:13 and verse 16 makes it clear to me….like I said to Gene, I have proven it to myself, I cannot prove it to you, but Scriptures does and God's Holy Spirit has taught me…. If you want to deny it, that is your business.   As far as I am concerned I am not calling Jesus a liar.  He said He came from Heaven to do the Fathers will, and I believe Him…..Irene


    Hi Irene,

    'Don't bother me(Irene) with the FACTS, because I(Irene) already have my mind made up'.

    The traditions of men are very hard to give up aren't they? (Col.2:22-23)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #206625
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,16:24)
    Hi MB,
    By the same token which verse says Jesus is the Word?


    Are you serious Nick?

    Irene has answered this enough times for you already. How do you come to think the one called “Word of God” in Rev, a book John wrote before he wrote his gospel, is not “the Word” in John 1?

    mike

    #206630
    shimmer
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,19:12)
    Hi Irene,
    Jesus came from his conception in his mother.
    The Spirit of Christ came from Heaven.
    That Word is Of God and is God.


    Interesting, could you speak further on this please, or point me to another page or something, thank you

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