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- May 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm#192684NickHassanParticipant
Hi KJ,
Did Jesus not pray that they would be one just as he and his Father are one[Jn17.20-21?]
You do seem confusedMay 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm#192685ProclaimerParticipantHey I have kinda noticed that we now have a Trinity WJ, KJ, and Is, who are 3 persons and one in unity for preserving the Triune God doctrine. So does that make you guys one human?
May 28, 2010 at 11:33 pm#192686ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50) What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.
All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.Can you see it now?
May 29, 2010 at 12:00 am#192691KangarooJackParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:32) Hey I have kinda noticed that we now have a Trinity WJ, KJ, and Is, who are 3 persons and one in unity for preserving the Triune God doctrine. So does that make you guys one human?
t8,So you want to play games eh? How about this: The word “god” may also refer to a government or power. I live in the U.S.A. where our government (or god) is a trinity. Our government (or god) consists of THREE branches that are co-equal. They are the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial.
The three branches are distinct from each other and yet are ONE “god” (or power).
I know that you know what trinitarians mean by the term “trinity”. So please be honest.
Jack
May 29, 2010 at 12:21 am#192692NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
it is a cute catholic concept.
Come beyond theory and know God and His son.
You won't be able to see the kingdom until you are reborn from aboveMay 29, 2010 at 12:21 am#192693Is 1:18ParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:33) Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50) What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.
All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.Can you see it now?
Is the Son of man not Himself “man”?May 29, 2010 at 12:24 am#192694NickHassanParticipantHi Is 1.18,
Yes he was and is.
And now the Lord is the Spirit.
But some men want to make him his own God.May 29, 2010 at 2:06 am#192700KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,11:21) Hi KJ,
it is a cute catholic concept.
Come beyond theory and know God and His son.
You won't be able to see the kingdom until you are reborn from above
Nick,I am not worried. I know Him. A Is 1:18 (Paul) said,
Quote As an aside – it's interesting to me that readers are NEVER cautioned by NT authors about taking their adulation of Yeshua too far? Not once are we told to be wary of extolling Him to too high a plateau, or breaking the first two commandments in our relationship with Yeshua. How curious.
One can be condemned for not honoring Jesus enough. But there is no risk of condemnation for honoring Jesus too much. In fact, we are required to honor Him EVEN AS we honor His Father.You should listen to Is. 1:18 Nick.
roo
May 29, 2010 at 2:08 am#192701KangarooJackParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:33) Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50) What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.
All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.Can you see it now?
You're being evasive t8Son of God = God
Son of Man = Man
roo
May 29, 2010 at 2:40 am#192704Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 28 2010,18:32) Hey I have kinda noticed that we now have a Trinity WJ, KJ, and Is, who are 3 persons and one in unity for preserving the Triune God doctrine. So does that make you guys one human?
No it makes us one Body for we are the body of Christ the true church!But I guess you do not believe in plural unity!
WJ
May 29, 2010 at 2:48 am#192708Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,19:21) Quote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:33) Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50) What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.
All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.Can you see it now?
Is the Son of man not Himself “man”?
Hi PaulExactly, and since Jesus is the “Only Unique Son of God” that makes him God just like the Father!
But it takes the Spirit of the Father to reveal who Jesus is.
Just like John, Peter, Thomas and Paul experienced and the many millions that know he is the “I AM!
Blessings Keith
May 29, 2010 at 5:29 am#192728NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
Then which spirit are you listening to?
test the spiritstrinity is of man.
May 29, 2010 at 2:40 pm#192761JustAskinParticipantWJ,
what does the word 'Begotten' pertain to? Is it 'Unique', 'only'?
God cannot be Created, Made, Come into Existence. That is an impossibility?
Ah, how so you ask? Because God does not CHANGE. God Cannot change, because the He would not be God.
To be able to change means there is some 'alternative' to be, and we know that God 'IS' (Was, Is and Will Be).
Is Jesus 'IS'? Was Jesus not once Spirit, then Man, then dead, then alive as man, then Man in Spirit?
Here is a question for the Wise:
When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?Please pay attention to 'Emptied himself of Divinity'…what exactly does that mean,.. to a Trinitarian, to a ninTrinitarian?
May 29, 2010 at 2:58 pm#192765Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (JustAskin @ May 29 2010,09:40) WJ, what does the word 'Begotten' pertain to? Is it 'Unique', 'only'?
I'm sorry, were you speaking to me?WJ
May 29, 2010 at 4:39 pm#192784KangarooJackParticipantJustAskin said:
Quote Here is a question for the Wise:
When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?
Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA. Stick with fishin JA.Kangaroo Jack
May 29, 2010 at 7:48 pm#192797NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
God was not a servant to Himself and certainly not to puny man.
Wake up.May 29, 2010 at 8:44 pm#192816Is 1:18ParticipantQuote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,03:39) Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA.
You are correct. Glad you knocked that straw man down (again). It's irritating to have to continually correct these misrepresentations isn't it?May 29, 2010 at 8:53 pm#192821GeneBalthropParticipantKJ……….So when it say we are Jesus' Brothers and Joint Heirs with him then we can assume we are GODS to as He is also, or our we to Have GOD (IN) Us as He did but not be that GOD but a SON of HIS. “Know you not brethren that (NOW) we (ARE) the SONS OF GOD”. Are you giving us permission to call ourselves GODS to and if so the i think the “TRINITY” would still not be right KJ. How about you are you A GOD too.
peace and love……………..gene
May 29, 2010 at 8:59 pm#192823GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,03:39) JustAskin said: Quote Here is a question for the Wise:
When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?
Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA. Stick with fishin JA.Kangaroo Jack
KJ……….Then why did He heal people? if as you say he emptied himself of All Divinity. How was that possible to heal or walk on water or go through doors or raise the dead. There remains only one way and that is If GOD were With HIM as He was with all the Prophets of OLD. Jesus Plainly said he did what he did (BY) the finger of GOD , but never said (HE) was that GOD doing it. Dump you trinity garbage KJ, and the fog might leave your mind. IMOpeace and love…………..gene
May 29, 2010 at 9:09 pm#192832NickHassanParticipantHi Is 1.18,
Trinity is a misrepresentation of the truth of scripture.
Abide in it. - AuthorPosts
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