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  • #192684
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Did Jesus not pray that they would be one just as he and his Father are one[Jn17.20-21?]
    You do seem confused

    #192685
    Proclaimer
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    Hey I have kinda noticed that we now have a Trinity WJ, KJ, and Is, who are 3 persons and one in unity for preserving the Triune God doctrine. So does that make you guys one human?

    #192686
    Proclaimer
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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50)
    What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.


    All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.

    Can you see it now?

    #192691
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:32)
    Hey I have kinda noticed that we now have a Trinity WJ, KJ, and Is, who are 3 persons and one in unity for preserving the Triune God doctrine. So does that make you guys one human?


    t8,

    So you want to play games eh? How about this: The word “god” may also refer to a government or power. I live in the U.S.A. where our government (or god) is a trinity. Our government (or god) consists of THREE branches that are co-equal. They are the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial.

    The three branches are distinct from each other and yet are ONE “god” (or power).

    I know that you know what trinitarians mean by the term “trinity”. So please be honest.

    Jack

    #192692
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    it is a cute catholic concept.
    Come beyond theory and know God and His son.
    You won't be able to see the kingdom until you are reborn from above

    #192693
    Is 1:18
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:33)

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50)
    What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.


    All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.

    Can you see it now?


    Is the Son of man not Himself “man”?

    #192694
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Is 1.18,
    Yes he was and is.
    And now the Lord is the Spirit.
    But some men want to make him his own God.

    #192700
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,11:21)
    Hi KJ,
    it is a cute catholic concept.
    Come beyond theory and know God and His son.
    You won't be able to see the kingdom until you are reborn from above


    Nick,

    I am not worried. I know Him. A Is 1:18 (Paul) said,

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    As an aside – it's interesting to me that readers are NEVER cautioned by NT authors about taking their adulation of Yeshua too far? Not once are we told to be wary of extolling Him to too high a plateau, or breaking the first two commandments in our relationship with Yeshua. How curious.


    One can be condemned for not honoring Jesus enough. But there is no risk of condemnation for honoring Jesus too much. In fact, we are required to honor Him EVEN AS we honor His Father.

    You should listen to Is. 1:18 Nick.

    roo

    #192701
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:33)

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50)
    What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.


    All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.

    Can you see it now?


    You're being evasive t8

    Son of God = God

    Son of Man = Man

    roo

    #192704

    Quote (t8 @ May 28 2010,18:32)
    Hey I have kinda noticed that we now have a Trinity WJ, KJ, and Is, who are 3 persons and one in unity for preserving the Triune God doctrine. So does that make you guys one human?


    No it makes us one Body for we are the body of Christ the true church! :)

    But I guess you do not believe in plural unity!

    WJ

    #192708

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,19:21)

    Quote (t8 @ May 29 2010,10:33)

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 28 2010,13:50)
    What does the phrase “Son of God” mean? Give me a precise definition with scriptual support.


    All you need to know at the moment is that the son of God doesn't mean God. It means the son of God.

    Can you see it now?


    Is the Son of man not Himself “man”?


    Hi Paul

    Exactly, and since Jesus is the “Only Unique Son of God” that makes him God just like the Father!

    But it takes the Spirit of the Father to reveal who Jesus is.

    Just like John, Peter, Thomas and Paul experienced and the many millions that know he is the “I AM!

    Blessings Keith

    #192728
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    Then which spirit are you listening to?
    test the spirits

    trinity is of man.

    #192761
    JustAskin
    Participant

    WJ,

    what does the word 'Begotten' pertain to? Is it 'Unique', 'only'?

    God cannot be Created, Made, Come into Existence. That is an impossibility?

    Ah, how so you ask? Because God does not CHANGE. God Cannot change, because the He would not be God.

    To be able to change means there is some 'alternative' to be, and we know that God 'IS' (Was, Is and Will Be).

    Is Jesus 'IS'? Was Jesus not once Spirit, then Man, then dead, then alive as man, then Man in Spirit?

    Here is a question for the Wise:
    When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?

    Please pay attention to 'Emptied himself of Divinity'…what exactly does that mean,.. to a Trinitarian, to a ninTrinitarian?

    #192765

    Quote (JustAskin @ May 29 2010,09:40)
    WJ,

    what does the word 'Begotten' pertain to? Is it 'Unique', 'only'?


    I'm sorry, were you speaking to me?

    WJ

    #192784
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    JustAskin said:

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    Here is a question for the Wise:
    When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?


    Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA. Stick with fishin JA.

    Kangaroo Jack

    #192797
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    God was not a servant to Himself and certainly not to puny man.
    Wake up.

    #192816
    Is 1:18
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,03:39)
    Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA.


    You are correct. Glad you knocked that straw man down (again). It's irritating to have to continually correct these misrepresentations isn't it?

    #192821
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    KJ……….So when it say we are Jesus' Brothers and Joint Heirs with him then we can assume we are GODS to as He is also, or our we to Have GOD (IN) Us as He did but not be that GOD but a SON of HIS. “Know you not brethren that (NOW) we (ARE) the SONS OF GOD”. Are you giving us permission to call ourselves GODS to and if so the i think the “TRINITY” would still not be right KJ. How about you are you A GOD too.

    peace and love……………..gene

    #192823
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,03:39)
    JustAskin said:

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    Here is a question for the Wise:
    When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?


    Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA. Stick with fishin JA.

    Kangaroo Jack


    KJ……….Then why did He heal people? if as you say he emptied himself of All Divinity. How was that possible to heal or walk on water or go through doors or raise the dead. There remains only one way and that is If GOD were With HIM as He was with all the Prophets of OLD. Jesus Plainly said he did what he did (BY) the finger of GOD , but never said (HE) was that GOD doing it. Dump you trinity garbage KJ, and the fog might leave your mind. IMO

    peace and love…………..gene

    #192832
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Is 1.18,
    Trinity is a misrepresentation of the truth of scripture.
    Abide in it.

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