Jesus temptation

[terraricca]

what the temptations of Christ means to us as true Christians
and what do they really say.

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all

Lk 4:1 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan River. The Spirit led him into the desert.
Lk 4:2 There the devil tempted him for 40 days.
Jesus ate nothing during that time. At the end of the 40 days, he was hungry.
Lk 4:3 The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.”
Lk 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written, ‘Man doesn’t live only on bread.’” (Deuteronomy 8:3)
Lk 4:5 Then the devil led Jesus up to a high place. In an instant, he showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world.
Lk 4:6 He said to him, “I will give you all their authority and glory. It has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.
Lk 4:7 So if you worship me, it will all be yours.”
Lk 4:8 Jesus answered, “It is written, ‘Worship the Lord your God. He is the only one you should serve.’” (Deuteronomy 6:13)
Lk 4:9 Then the devil led Jesus to Jerusalem. He had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here.
Lk 4:10 It is written,
“‘The Lord will command his angels to take good care of you.
Lk 4:11 They will lift you up in their hands.
Then you won’t trip over a stone.’” (Psalm 91:11, 12)
Lk 4:12 Jesus answered, “Scripture says, ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” (Deuteronomy 6:16)
Lk 4:13 When the devil finished all this tempting, he left Jesus until a better time

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hi

Lk 4:1 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan River. The Spirit led him into the desert.
Lk 4:2 There the devil tempted him for 40 days

in other words;Jesus was baptize left the river and the spirit let him to the desert,and there the devil(satan) tempted him for 40 days of 24 hours.

1)the devil will always tempt you on your own weaknesses,
2)the devil will always tempt you wen the time and conditions are right for him to tempt you.
3)the devil will use any means he can to fulfill his sinister work of temptation

what can we do ??

1)look Jesus wen he went to the desert he was full of the holy spirit,it also was is first day of his commitment to his father, his God.

Jesus was raised as a Jew and knew the scriptures,and blessed with the holy spirit was prepared to fight .

we ,many of us have not been raised in the scriptures knowledge,so we are not well prepared to fight the spirit of Satan,may be not even know him.

so first we have to learn the KNOWLEDGE OF GOD trough the scriptures so that we may be prepared to fight the good battle of Christ.

secondly;we have to put it in practice in are daily lives, so to have practice ,understanding ,and let the true knowledge of God do his work in our lives and our body and mind.

now as time goes on we can feel the works of God but we may miss some of the things like wisdom,courage,understanding,insurance,Godly love,this can all be obtain by praying to God,with our hearts.

and remember temptation is all around us in many different aspects,we now live in Gods world not any longer Satan world,so do not cross over the line.

because at the end of it we will receive the reward LIVE EVERLASTHING.

[terraricca]

hi

Lk 4:3 The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.”
Lk 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written, ‘Man doesn’t live only on bread.’” (Deuteronomy 8:3)

this verse shows that the devil ;knows the scriptures,but look at is views;if you are the son of God;
is question put in a doubt in Jesus ,just in case he find some EGO.
then he goes on;tell this stone to become bread” the devil here says maybe you are maybe you are not let see what you are and this will prove who you really are,if you can do this ;change stones into bread.

but Jesus answer;Man doen't live on bread alone”
here Jesus recognize that the food grown on earth is not sufficient to give live,but only good to sustain it for a while.so the need to have access to the other food is imperative,THE WORD OF GOD.

do you want to live on beyond this live??

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hi

Lk 4:5 Then the devil led Jesus up to a high place. In an instant, he showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world.
Lk 4:6 He said to him, “I will give you all their authority and glory. It has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.
Lk 4:7 So if you worship me, it will all be yours.”
Lk 4:8 Jesus answered, “It is written, ‘Worship the Lord your God. He is the only one you should serve.’” (Deuteronomy 6:13)

now here the devil put in his package;all the world and it is his for a time,but look what he ask for;

just a little worship acte,in a way you recognize me as your god,that the meaning of it .

Jesus says;
“It is written, ‘Worship the Lord your God. He is the only one you should serve.’” (Deuteronomy 6:13)

only worship God and only serve him, this is clear,

doing as Jesus will save us in the same way.STAY FOCUS ON THE WORD OF GOD .

[terraricca]

hi

Lk 4:9 Then the devil led Jesus to Jerusalem. He had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here.
Lk 4:10 It is written,
“‘The Lord will command his angels to take good care of you.
Lk 4:11 They will lift you up in their hands.
Then you won’t trip over a stone.’” (Psalm 91:11, 12)
Lk 4:12 Jesus answered, “Scripture says, ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” (Deuteronomy 6:16)
Lk 4:13 When the devil finished all this tempting, he left Jesus until a better time

sometimes we think that things are going well ,in all direction and say it is Gods blessing,is it ??
what if it is the devil snare ? this is why christians have to be vigilant at all times ,
after those temptations the devil did not leave Jesus alone ;look what scriptures says; he left Jesus until a better time

and wen you read the scriptures about Christ live we know what he wen trough ,he relied on his father and so we should to ,always.

[seekingtruth]

Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.

Our Lord understands.

[terraricca]

hi
this live is full of traps for the true Christians ,many over the years came with new ,or variation of beleives,who do not line up in a true way to the scriptures ,learn to avoied that trap ,the scriptures are there and they are the true word of God,put them in your heart and the spirit of Christ will help you,

1Ti 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
1Ti 1:18 Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight,
1Ti 1:19 holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.
1Ti 1:20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme

Ro 1:19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
Ro 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse

Ro 2:7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Ro 2:8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

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all

do you have a faith strong enough to go all the way were Christ went?

are you unshakable??

is your love for God so strong that it is your way of live.??

[kerwin]

Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes.

Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and on earth he is will to give anyone who obeys all his teachings his spirit so they too can resist the scheemes of the evil one.

We must believe this so that we can walk according to the ways of the spirit of holiness we recieve when we with complete belief in Jesus and his words are immersed in water and so commit to serving him.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53)

Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes. Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and on earth he is will to give anyone who obeys all his teachings his spirit so they too can resist the scheemes of the evil one. We must believe this so that we can walk according to the ways of the spirit of holiness we recieve when we with complete belief in Jesus and his words are immersed in water and so commit to serving him.

Kerwin

So you think Jesus could have been tempted to rape, murder, have sex with his mom, or have sex with a man or a beast, or every other imaginable temptation known to man that Jesus said comes from within a man?

James says men are tempted when they are drawn away of their own lust.

Did Jesus have a fallen nature like us?

WJ

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,03:46)

Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53) Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes. Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and on earth he is will to give anyone who obeys all his teachings his spirit so they too can resist the scheemes of the evil one. We must believe this so that we can walk according to the ways of the spirit of holiness we recieve when we with complete belief in Jesus and his words are immersed in water and so commit to serving him. Kerwin So you think Jesus could have been tempted to rape, murder, have sex with his mom, or have sex with a man or a beast, or every other imaginable temptation known to man that Jesus said comes from within a man? James says men are tempted when they are drawn away of their own lust. Did Jesus have a fallen nature like us? WJ

WJ

NO,Jesus ad no falling nature and the reason for it is that he love God with all his strength,and mind,and heart,he has not let his mind wandered away from the truth ,the word of God ,

now in your case as a example you have drifted away by letting pagan worship in your heart so there you are different from Jesus,
and now that you have accepted lies you now open the door to other sins,and that is how we degrade into corruption,

THIS was NEVER the CASE of Christ.he kept himself pure

[kerwin]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46)

Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53) Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes. Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and on earth he is will to give anyone who obeys all his teachings his spirit so they too can resist the schemes of the evil one. We must believe this so that we can walk according to the ways of the spirit of holiness we receive when we with complete belief in Jesus and his words are immersed in water and so commit to serving him. Kerwin So you think Jesus could have been tempted to rape, murder, have sex with his mom, or have sex with a man or a beast, or every other imaginable temptation known to man that Jesus said comes from within a man? James says men are tempted when they are drawn away of their own lust. Did Jesus have a fallen nature like us? WJ

I cannot tell you the details though I assure you Jesus did have the same sinful nature as we do but he never walked according to it because his faith was at least as large as a mustard seed and believe even larger.

I am so confident of this because it is written:

Hebrews 4:15(NIV) reads:

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For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted  in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.

Since God states, “but we have one who has been tempted  in every way, just as we are” then I choose to believe it is true.

Since God also states, “yet was without sin” then that too i choose to believe is true.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46)

Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53) Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes. Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and on earth he is will to give anyone who obeys all his teachings his spirit so they too can resist the schemes of the evil one. We must believe this so that we can walk according to the ways of the spirit of holiness we receive when we with complete belief in Jesus and his words are immersed in water and so commit to serving him. Kerwin So you think Jesus could have been tempted to rape, murder, have sex with his mom, or have sex with a man or a beast, or every other imaginable temptation known to man that Jesus said comes from within a man? James says men are tempted when they are drawn away of their own lust. Did Jesus have a fallen nature like us? WJ

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46)

I cannot tell you the details though I assure you Jesus did have the same sinful nature as we do but he never walked according to it because his faith was at least as large as a mustard seed and believe even larger.

Where do you find this in scripture? The fallen nature is described by Paul as a sinful nature or the Old man!

That ye put off concerning the former conversation “**the old man**, which is CORRUPT according to the deceitful lusts“; Eph 4:22

There was no corruption in Jesus.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46)

I am so confident of this because it is written: Hebrews 4:15(NIV) reads: Quote For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted  in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. Since God states, “but we have one who has been tempted  in every way, just as we are” then I choose to believe it is true. Since God also states, “yet was without sin” then that too i choose to believe is true.

The words “Just as we are” are not in the original text.

Jesus was not tempted to have sex with a child or a beast or to rape or to murder or every other temptation known to man.

To say so is anathema because there was no sin or corruption in the perfect lamb of God!

He experienced what it was to be weak in the flesh, but there was no evil desires in him.

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. James 1:14

WJ

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Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2010,09:49)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46) Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53) Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and resisted Satan's schemes. Now that he has been made King of everything in heaven and on earth he is will to give anyone who obeys all his teachings his spirit so they too can resist the schemes of the evil one. We must believe this so that we can walk according to the ways of the spirit of holiness we receive when we with complete belief in Jesus and his words are immersed in water and so commit to serving him. Kerwin So you think Jesus could have been tempted to rape, murder, have sex with his mom, or have sex with a man or a beast, or every other imaginable temptation known to man that Jesus said comes from within a man? James says men are tempted when they are drawn away of their own lust. Did Jesus have a fallen nature like us? WJ I cannot tell you the details though I assure you Jesus did have the same sinful nature as we do but he never walked according to it because his faith was at least as large as a mustard seed and believe even larger. I am so confident of this because it is written: Hebrews 4:15(NIV) reads: Quote For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted  in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. Since God states, “but we have one who has been tempted  in every way, just as we are” then I choose to believe it is true. Since God also states, “yet was without sin” then that too i choose to believe is true.

KW

pay attention to WJ wen he say what Paul says about sinful nature,to establish Christ nature ,

Christ ad not a sinful nature because of is righteousness and love for God was stronger than the other.

Jesus chose to do what was right.

[kerwin]

Worshipping Jesus wrote:

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Where do you find this in scripture? The fallen nature is described by Paul as a sinful nature or the Old man!

The words is Hebrews 4:15 are “tempted  in every way, just as we are” and we know how we are tempted because James explicitly teaches us:

James 1:14(NIV) reads:

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but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. And Paul teaches us is that sinful desires come from the sinful nature. Galatians 5:17(NIV) reads: For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.

So if you put all these scriptures together it teaches us in order to be tempted every ways just as we are, Jesus must have had a sinful nature yet chose not to give into it.

Worshipping Jesus wrote:

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The words “Just as we are” are not in the original text.

I looked at the King James Version, New International Version, New King James Version, and Young's Literal Version and it is in all of them except for minor translational differences.  The NIV often has a note speaking of variations in early transcripts and there is no such note.

I even did a Google search for '”Hebrews 4:15″ “Original Transcript” and could not find it mentioned.  There was some documents I had trouble accessing but they did not sound promising, perhaps the one called “The Anti-Christ Conspiracy” at scribd.com.

Worshipping Jesus wrote:

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To say so is anathema because there was no sin or corruption in the perfect lamb of God!

Temptation is not sin and does not hold one guilty of sin for being tempted which is why scripture states “resist the devil, and he will flee from you”, James 4:7. Jesus obeyed God and the devil left, Luke 4:13.

[kerwin]

Terraricca wrote:

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Christ ad not a sinful nature because of his righteousness and love for God was stronger than the other.

Please see the post I just posted to Worshipping Jesus.

Reading you last post I get the idea that we are using a different definition for “sinful nature”.   I am saying that the “sinful nature” is the source of evil desires and not the part of us that chooses to sin.

Thus Jesus was tempted by the desires of the sinful nature but “his righteousness and love for God was stronger” just as you wrote.

[GeneBalthrop]

Kerwin………You are right on brother. Jesus (WAS) Tempted exactly as we are in (EVERY WAY)> Trying to move Jesus (EXACT) Identity with us, (IS) Antichrist teachings. Jesus was a (MAN) who was KEPT from sinning BY GOD the FATHERS SPIRIT. He was 100 % human and Had (every desire of the FLESH as WE have HAD). Trinitarians and Preexistences are Antichrists and can not accept scripture that say Jesus was and is a pure Human Being. Both is his past, present, and future, He (IS) SON OF MAN This continual forcing of Jesus' separation from our exact likeness by Trinitarians and Preexistences is only the work of “MYSTERY RELIGION” .

WJ, shows his disregard for the work of the (FIRST) BEGOTTEN HUMAN BEING, From among MANKIND, and the Power of Jesus' and our GOD, producing in us the power to OVERCOME our sins , which was His creative work and power (IN) Jesus to overcome His own lust and desires in His own Life Showing us an example of (HOW) to Overcome also.

Rev 3:21…..> “To him that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my throne, (EVEN) (AS I OVERCAME), and am set down with my Father in his throne”, We must overcome the same as Jesus did, by the power of the same, ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD.

22…> He that hath and ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the churches.

peace and love to you and yours………………gene

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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 12 2010,02:39)

Kerwin………You are right on brother. Jesus (WAS) Tempted exactly as we are in (EVERY WAY)>  Trying to move Jesus (EXACT) Identity with us, (IS) Antichrist teachings. Jesus was a (MAN) who was KEPT from sinning BY GOD the FATHERS SPIRIT. He was 100 % human and Had (every desire of the FLESH as WE have HAD). Trinitarians and Preexistences are Antichrists and can not accept scripture that say Jesus was and is a pure Human Being. Both is his past, present, and future, He (IS) SON OF MAN This continual forcing of Jesus' separation from our exact likeness by Trinitarians and Preexistences is only the work of  “MYSTERY RELIGION” . WJ, shows his disregard for the work of the (FIRST) BEGOTTEN HUMAN BEING, From among MANKIND, and the Power of Jesus' and our GOD, producing in us the power to OVERCOME our sins , which was His creative work and power (IN) Jesus to overcome His own lust and desires in His own Life Showing us an example of (HOW) to Overcome also. Rev 3:21…..> “To him that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my throne, (EVEN) (AS I OVERCAME), and am set down with my Father in his throne”, We must overcome the same as Jesus did, by the power of the same, ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD. 22…> He that hath and ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the churches. peace and love to you and yours………………gene

gene

you do it again ,you are a snake,you do not understand scriptures and you teach deceit.

preexistence of Christ is part of the Antichrist denial to it so you are antichrist,

you may never become son , at all if you keep that teaching,

wake up and see.

[GeneBalthrop]

Terarrica……..Interesting John does not seem to agree with you, He say denying Jesus Humanity, of Him being of the Flesh is the Spirit (intellect) of the Antichrist. You by denying that, by being a Preexistences and are believing in that Spirit of Antichrist. Trinitarians and Preexistences are one and the same, both deny Jesus' total HUMANITY, giving him preexisting powers he never had, and distorts GOD'S Work as well as Jesus' work on earth as a pure human being. IMO

peace and love……………..gene

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