Jesus’ Second Coming and the Counterfeit!

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  • #932913
    Brad
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    Rabbi Jesus son of Joseph died sometime in the 40 years after his Crucifixion on Friday April 7, 30 AD / 7.4.783 AUC / 14 Nisan 3790 HC. God-incarnate was entombed in the http://JesusFamilyTomb.com in East Talpiot between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. The Messiah/Christ and John the Baptist were mystical Essenes and taught the transmigration of the soul/rebirth. The eternal soul of Y’shua has been famously reincarnated many times including Leonardo da Vinci, Galileo, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein, and…

    See http://7seals.blogspot.com as ‘Beyond Einstein Theories’ satisfy the prophecy of The Revelation 5:1 of the “book/scroll sealed with 7 seals”.

    #932915
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Let me guess. You are this great person.

    Lol. I’m going to say it straight.

    You are deluded.

    #932921
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Brad, do you  remember the lyricks of the song by the Egales?  “take it easy, don’t let the sound of your own wheels (mind), drive you crazy”.   You need to really consider that brother. Your not Jesus, never was,  and never will be either.  

    Peace and love to you and your, Brad…………gene

    #932922
    Berean
    Participant

    The Union Between Protestantism and Catholicism

    By Julio Cesar Prado

    The task of preaching the everlasting gospel and delivering the final three warning messages must be completed with great force. “For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.” Romans 9:28.

    “The United States,” the North American writer Ellen G. White reports in her book The Great Conflict p. 578, “is the power represented by the beast with lamb-like horns, and that this prophecy will be fulfilled when the United States shall enforce Sunday observance, which Rome claims as the special acknowledgment of her supremacy. But in this homage to papacy the United States will not be alone.”

    The United States is the greatest power in the world today, but it will not be alone in choosing and glorifying the Papacy. Revelation 17:12–13 makes clear that the ten horns will give power and authority to the Pope to lead the world, and Revelation 13:12 makes clear that the United States will promote the Papacy so that the Earth will worship him. The United States does not act independently of the hidden forces of the world’s governmental elite (the Masonry elite, the Order of Skull & Bones, the Illuminati, and other groups). There are hidden powers and secret societies that are clad with so much power in the government of this world that resisting them would result in financial and political suicide.

    Nobody is aware of the invisible forces that control the world. “Satan is standing ready, burning with zeal to inspire the whole confederacy of satanic agencies, that he may cause them to unite with evil men and bring upon the believers of truth speedy and severe suffering,” Testimonies, Vol. 9, p. 242. Regardless of who holds the office of president of the United States—a Democrat or a Republican—the Secret Brotherhood’s shadowy forces are in power.

    According to the prophecy, they are like kings, but without any visible throne. They are clad with such authority that they influenced the extinction of the former Soviet Union, ended the Cold War and toppled the Berlin Wall. Before this, the churches that have been deceived and which constitute spiritual Babylon, will go mad and influence the state power to bring persecution upon the servants of God and impose compliance with the sign of the beast by law.

    “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ” (Revelation 12:17). In the near future we shall see these words fulfilled as the Protestant churches unite with the world and with the papal power against commandment keepers. The same spirit which actuated papists in ages past will lead Protestants to pursue a similar course toward those who will maintain their loyalty to God.”

    “Church and state are now making preparations for the future conflict. Protestants are working in disguise to bring Sunday to the front, as did the Romanists. Throughout the land the papacy is piling up her lofty and massive structures, in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions are to be repeated. And the way is preparing for the manifestation, on a grand scale, of those lying wonders by which, if it were possible, Satan would deceive even the elect.”

    “The same masterful mind that plotted against the faithful in ages past is still seeking to rid the earth of those who fear God and obey His law. Satan will excite indignation against the humble minority who conscientiously refuse to accept popular customs and traditions … By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near” (Testimonies, volume 5, pages. 449-451).

    These predictions, based on Biblical prophecies, were made in 1885 by the writer Ellen G. White, when there was no prospect of a union between Protestantism and Catholicism. These two religious systems existed at the time and were mortal enemies. The United States, which is primarily a Protestant nation, allows for complete religious freedom. And when it was said that the American nation would in the future adopt measures of religious intolerance and that Protestantism would give one hand to Catholicism and the other to Spiritualism, and that the Church was to unite with the State, they said this prediction was unfounded and absurd. However, today, as you can all see, the path to the fulfillment of these Bible-based predictions is being quickly and surely prepared.

    According to the prophecy, the United States will not only grow closer to the Vatican, but will also work to honor and strengthen papal influence around the world. The USA will compel everyone to worship the beast (Rome) that emerges from the sea.

    About: Julio Cesar Prado is a journalist.

    God bless 

     

    #932938
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Berean……Ellen G. White,  is nothing more then a false prophet,  she couldn’t be more wrong even if she tried.  Why are you following all these idiots ?

    The ten nation kingdom under Satan’s  rule,  dosn’t take place till (after),  the thousand year reign of Jesus  christ and the Saint’s , when satan is “released”,  from the bottomless pit, he hasen’t even been put into the “bottomless pit”,  yet.  That takes place at the return of Jesus, then he will be contained for a thousand years,  then released for a short season 3.5 years at the end , then God the Father returns and cast him into the lake of fire  where he goes into “predition”.  That is when the battle of “Armagedeon”,   takes place.

    Our problem today  is our leaders, just as scriptures says, “for the leaders, have caused my people to fail”  We are falling from within , by evil and corrupt leaders, and men and wemen, who are seeking their “own” personel wealth, and power,    but as far as our nation ( United States of America), we always upheld in this world,  the right for all men to be free, and all nations to set up sound and right Governments for their people.  Our very Constitution is based on the English, Magna Carter, which is based on the Ten Comandments of God.   We may be falling from the grace of God, at this time, but our God is able to deliever us, just as he has in the past. We are still his people, and  many of us still believe in him as our great “Deliever” . While he may chasten us, for our transgressions, He “WIL NOT FORSAKE US”, because we have been his light for freedom, in this world for a many years,   IMO. 

    Peace and love to you and yours Berean. ……….gene

     

    #933204
    gadam123
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    Here is another so called unique revelation….

    Jehovah’s Witnesses teach the imminent end of the current world society, or “system of things” by God’s judgment, leading to deliverance for the saved. This judgment will begin with false religion, which they identify as the “harlot”, Babylon the Great, referred to in the Book of Revelation. They apply this designation to all other religions. They do not currently place their expectations on any specific date, but believe that various events will lead up to the end of this “system of things”, culminating in Armageddon. Armageddon is understood to include the destruction of all earthly governments by God. After Armageddon, God will extend his heavenly kingdom to include earth.

    They believe that after Armageddon, based on scriptures such as John 5:28, 29, the dead will gradually be resurrected to a “day of judgment” lasting for a thousand years. This judgment will be based on their actions after resurrection, not on past deeds. At the end of the thousand years a final test will take place when Satan is brought back to mislead perfect mankind. The result will be a fully tested, glorified human race.

    Watch Tower Society publications teach that Jesus Christ returned invisibly and began to rule in heaven as king in October 1914. They state that the beginning of Christ’s heavenly rule would seem worse initially for mankind because it starts with the casting out of Satan from heaven to the earth, which according to Revelation 12, would bring a brief period of “woe” to mankind. This woe will be reversed when Christ comes to destroy Satan’s earthly organization, throwing Satan into the abyss and extending God’s kingdom rule over the earth, over which Jesus reigns as God’s appointed king. They believe the Greek word parousia (usually translated as “coming”) is more accurately understood as an extended invisible “presence”, perceived only by a series of “signs”.

    Witnesses base their beliefs about the significance of 1914 on the Watch Tower Society’s interpretation of biblical chronology, which is hinged on their assertion that the Babylonian captivity and destruction of Jerusalem occurred in 607 BC. From this, they conclude that Daniel chapter 4 prophesied a period of 2,520 years, from 607 BC until 1914. They equate this period with the “Gentile Times” or “the appointed times of the nations,” a phrase taken from Luke 21:24. They believe that when the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, the line of kings descended from David was interrupted, and that God’s throne was “trampled on” from then until Jesus began ruling in October 1914. Secular historians date the event of Jerusalem’s destruction to within a year of 587 BC. The Witnesses’ alternative chronology produces a 20-year gap between the reigns of Neo-Babylonian Kings Amel-Marduk (rule ended 560 BC) and Nabonidus (rule began 555 BC) in addition to the intervening reigns of Neriglissar and Labashi-Marduk, despite the availability of contiguous cuneiform records.

    They teach that after the war of Armageddon, Jesus will rule over earth as king for 1000 years after which he will hand all authority back to Jehovah.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that since October 1914, humanity has been living in a period of intense increased trouble known as “the last days”, marked by war, disease, famine, earthquakes, and a progressive degeneration of morality. They also believe their preaching is part of the sign, often alluding to the text of Matthew 24:14, “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be proclaimed in all the world as a witness to all nations. And then the end shall come.” (MKJV) They claim that various calamities in the modern world constitute proof of these beliefs, such as the outbreak of World War I in August 1914, the Spanish flu epidemic in May 1918, the onset of World War II in 1939, the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and, more recently, the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that in 1918, Christ judged all world religions claiming to be Christian, and that after a period of eighteen months, among all groups and religions claiming to represent Christ, only the “Bible Students” (from which Jehovah’s Witnesses developed) met God’s approval. Watch Tower Society publications claim that the world’s other religions have misrepresented God, and filled the world with hatred. They identify “Babylon The Great” and the “mother of the harlots” referred to in Revelation 17:3–6 as the “world empire of false religion”

    During the final great tribulation, all other religions will be destroyed by “crazed” member governments of the United Nations, acting under the direction of Jehovah. Witness publications identify the United Nations as the “beast” to whom the “ten kings” of Revelation 17:12,13 give their “power and authority.”

    #933207
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Adam……..The JW’s are nothing but a “CULT”  there watch tower magazine is nothing more then a mixed bag of half truths, which has been proven as lies  over and over .They also preach that Jesus is the Arch Angel Michael,  If Jesus has returned as they say , he sure hasen’t done a very good Job of bringing the kingdom of Godto this earth yet.

    What Johovah wittiness are , are people of low esteeme who feel good about themselves   being in a group of people who think like them,  That feeling they get is the most common feelings that Cults give their members , a sense of being accepted by God of being the “true” people of God , while all the rest of the world are on the ouside.  This is a  common feeling given to all cults, even Jim Jones members felt that exact way also.

    I was in a cult ounce “The wwcg”,  that was the same thing they did , once you joined them,  they made you “feel”, as one of the few “unique ones”.   It is very effective and works well,  among people ESPICALLY people who were “ignorant” of what the bible actually does say.   That feeling OF BEING ONE OF “THE SOCALLED,  “SPECIAL ONES”,   cause them to stay in those orginazations, and not to question the things their leaders are telling them , There churches also feed them fear, by making them believe , if they leave that group they are lost forever.  These Cults Pray on the Ignorant like wolves among ignorant sheep.

    Peace and love to you and your Adam…………gene

     

     

    #933375
    Berean
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    Gene

    Berean……Ellen G. White, is nothing more than a false prophet, she couldn’t be more wrong even if she tried. Why are you following all these idiots?  

    Me

    No Gene, NOTHING IS MORE WRONG THAN THINKING THAT?
    HAVE YOU READ ONLY ONE BOOK BY THIS LADY?

    #933380
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Berean…….I have read your quotes of her, trust me brother , they are full of false assumptions,  and inaccuratices .  Berean , we have the words of God, and of Jesus Christ , why should we need any other to tell us anything?  Thats one of the big problems today, people looking to other people and Church organazations to show them the truth, when they have the words of God the  Father and Jesus, right in front of them .

    If a person has been given the “Spirit of Truth”,  “they have no need of a teacher, because the Spirit “ITSELF”, shall teach them all things”  .  Ounce you come to understand that and truly trust in that, you will be free of all theses Church organazations and their  false “doctrines” and millions of books they teach with also.  Anyone with the “spirit of truth” abiding “in” them, can comperhend the truth,  exactly as God intended it to be understood.  DIDN’T Jesus say?,   “you shall all be taught by God”?  , question still remains , how many “truly”, believe him? 

    Peace and love to you and yours Berean………..gene

    #933381
    Berean
    Participant

    Gene ,

    The Holy Spirit uses whom HE WANTS to preach the TRUTH WITH LOVE. MRS. WHITE IS ONE OF IT.
    Don’t you believe in the gifts of the Spirit according to God’s Word YET NOW?

    And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; (Eph.4:11)

     

    #933407
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Berean……..I have quoted exactly what the scriptures says, you either believe it or not.  IT NEEDS NO CLAREFICATION BY A ANYONE.  Espicually your false teachers,  like, Ellen White.

    I see no where in our scriptures that tell us (true believers) to Go listen to them , the scriptures we have,  have been delievered to us, in them is the “truth” ,  you will be judged by them , not the words of some misguided humans, who lead people into confusion and denial of what is written for us all to read for ourselves.  

    I stand by what i have said, “thats all a person needs is the “Spirit of Truth” , and the scriptures , and they can understand the truth of God the Father, and Jesus (the anointed human being) sent to speak The Fathers Words, to us.”  “study to show “yourself” aproved unto God, rightely deviding the Word of truth”.  You have to do that for yourself Berean, others can’t do that for you brother, quite putting your trust in them and what they say .  “OUR” God is plenty able to reveal it unto you yourself.” 

    1. The question remains Berean to you,  and to everyone else, Do you “truly” believe, God the Father, and the human Jesus,  who (God)  sent, to tell us “His” (God’s words)?, not Jesus’ own words,  remember? , “the words I (Jesus) am telling you,  are “NOT MY WORDS”, but the words of him who sent me”.  
    2. Question is do you “truly believe him” Berean?

    Peace and love to you and yours Berean………..gene

    #933408
    Berean
    Participant

    Gene,

    Show me something from Mrs. White that is FALSE TEACHING. THANK YOU.

    #933436
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Berean……Your last post about what she said is good enough.  Stop following people and organazations Berean,  you don’t need any of them  just study for yourself.  The words are all there in our scriptures, just start to believe them, just as they are written Berean.  “bretheren you have no need of a teacher, the Spirit “ITSELF” shall teach you all things, and again, Jesus said (not me) ….. “you shall “all” be taught by God”.  Berean……it is the Spirit of truth, that reveals the truth of God and his words into your mind, thats “the rock Jesus was going to build the church on”,  no on any human being, but on the “power of God to get into our minds and show us the truth. 

    YOUR putting to much stock in what other people like Ellen White and the watch tower magazine is telling you.  Trust and believe in what God the Father and Jesus  are  saying, you don’t need anyone else to tell you anything about what they mean, use the Spirit of truth, that abides “in” you,  if you have it,  if not,  ask God and seek it and inquire after it,  but if you have it,  that is all you need and the scriptures that are already written to understand the truth of God and Jesus.

    Peace and love to you and yours Berean………….gene

     

     

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