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Hi BD,
They are the sons of God spoken of in Romans 8
Progeny is not what saves men but eternal life is in the eternal Spirit.
Anyone literally worshiping and serving the God of Abraham of Isaac and of Jacob would be serving the God and Father of the lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ would be their lord.
We are saved because of the works of Jesus Christ.
We receive the gift of salvation by doing Romans 10:9-10
Amen Son of God. But Nick also has a point. I think that declaring with our mouth that “Jesus is Lord,” and believing that he that God raised him from the dead would come from being baptised in the Spirit. If it is with our heart that we believe and are justified, and if it is with our mouth that we profess our faith and are saved, then these are more likely how we are to continue in the faith once we have been baptised into Christ.
Hey, you guys
What is with totally spacing a question instead of even trying to have an answer for it let’s try this again:
I asked does God have Progeny/descendents/literal children the question is of utmost importance in this thread because the charge is the Quran as revealed to Muhammad is wrong in saying GOD has NO SON and it is written as in literally.
In fact God has no Son, No Brother, No Father, No spouse, No Mother, No Aunts, No Uncles and no other gods that accompany him including no partners. HE is GOD ALONE
“Allah! There is no god but He – the Living, The Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him Nor Sleep. His are all things In the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede In His presence except As he permitteth? He knoweth What (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass Aught of his knowledge Except as He willeth. His throne doth extend Over the heavens And on earth, and He feeleth No fatigue in guarding And preserving them, For He is the Most High. The Supreme (in glory).”
[Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]Hi BD,
Why would we be interested in your false human teachings?
If Jesus says he is the Son of God and he is our Master why would we accuse him of lying as you do?
You cannot serve 2 masters and you have chosen another.
Is eternal life in your master?
Hi BD,
Anyone can make up obsequious religious talk and compulsory religious activities.
But Jesus has the words of eternal life.
Hi BD,
You think Jesus becomes your lord if you attempt to offer worship to his God?
Another false gospel.
Listen to him.
Hi BD,
You seem to think the way of the Jews is still the path to salvation and the death of Jesus Christ was superfluous.
So you have set up a copy and imagine Jesus has accepted you despite your rejection of him
Hi BD,
You say Jesus and Muhummad are both mighty messengers but you reject one and obey the other.
How can you live in confusion.?
Nick
You are like a Jew trying to understand Christianity, except you are a Christian trying to understand Islam, you just don’t get it. Do you not recall the MAIN principle of Jesus reigning supreme:
1 Corinthians 15:24
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.Islam is STRICT MONOTHEISM…The branches of Jesus took over most of the world and as they fell away from the truth Islam emerged so the KINGDOM of GOD could be set up anew.This is the time of accepting or rejecting GOD, even the Father.
Do you accept God as lord or is Jesus over God to you, it seems you want to serve two masters
You seem to WORSHIP Christ as GOD although you condemn others for the same type of zeal.
And of course the way of the Jew is still salvation otherwise Jesus would not have said: “Salvation is of the Jews” he didn’t say that would change
John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.NOTHING CHANGED REGARDING THE NATURE OF GOD: Jesus didn’t alter the nature of God the only thing that was allowed was that gentiles did not have to carry a full burden as a Jew but there was no confusion at all regarding STRICT MONOTHEISM
Say: “O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.” If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah’s Will).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #64)
Hi BD,
I am not trying to understand false religion.
The master has useful work for us to do.
Salvation is of the Jews because a Jewish man perfectly fulfilled the Law and invites all to share in this triumph.
But most regard him as a liar and try to climb in some other way.
Hi BD,
For us there is one God, the Father, and one Lord Jesus Christ.
In the Spirit of Jesus Christ we can worship his God Who is also our God.
But you have another master and it is his will you are purposed to fulfil.
My only Master is the God that Jesus worships but you seem to not want me to Worship who Jesus Worships, why is that?
Hi SOG,
The book of Romans is written to the saved, in particular those from Jewish stock.See chapter 1. So Romans 10 is not describing another new way of salvation but causing them to reflect on the decisions they have already made to repent and be baptised in water and the Spirit.
Hi Nick,
Was not the book of Romans written to the Romans?
And are not Romans called Gentiles?Romans 1:13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
Good Call ED
Hi Ed,
Whu guess?
Check it out
Rom 1
Paul, a bond servant of Jesus Christ
…TO ALL THE BELOVED OF GOD, CALLED AS SAINTS….”
Romans 1:13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
Good Call ED
Thanks BD!
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