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Hi BD,
You would adjust the plan of God and find all the prophets liars too.
Is there any end to your fearless arrogance?
bodhitharta,
Jesus saves the world because he condemns this world of sin, which is currently bound to decay. At the end of times creation will be delivered from that bondage as the the children of God have been being delivered since the Pentecost when believers first received the promised Holy Spirit when they were immersed in water. It is by learning to live by the Spirit through faith that believers are returned to God.
Technically anyone who dies does so as a result of the sins of the people but in Jesus’ case he did not die for his own sins. It is just another way of saying this world of sin murdered the Innocent One.
Ed J,
Mahomet dies of poisoned lamb because someone who lived according to the flesh murdered him. That is not evidence that he was a false prophet.
Test his teaching and so prove him false.
At the same time test your teachings and discard what is false so you will found wanting on that day.
It looks like you are attacking Mahomet’s creditability but I do not know enough about Islam to know if the would consider the act of murder by a human as an act of God. I doubt it since that evidence is available to them.
HI Kerwin
EDJ is funny because he makes me think he doesn’t read the bible that often being able to kill a prophet doesn’t prove he is a false prophet, wasn’t that the claim for killing Jesus in fact killing him is positive proof not negative:
Matthew 23:31
Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.Keep in mind the woman was Jewish
Matthew 23:34
Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:Hi Kerwin
bodhitharta,
Jesus saves the world because he condemns this world of sin, which is currently bound to decay. At the end of times creation will be delivered from that bondage as the the children of God have been being delivered since the Pentecost when believers first received the promised Holy Spirit when they were immersed in water. It is by learning to live by the Spirit through faith that believers are returned to God.
Technically anyone who dies does so as a result of the sins of the people but in Jesus’ case he did not die for his own sins. It is just another way of saying this world of sin murdered the Innocent One.
The scriptures say
John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.I would say that if Jesus was actually crucified and killed the entire world would be condemned and so God saved Jesus from being killed or crucified….this would in no way nullify him being a life giving spirit because the scriptures say
John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.Only later did the idea of believing in the crucufixion and resurrection become a fixture, because Jesus was telling them to believe in him while he was alive.
The power of Jesus is not about the cross but God knows best
Matthew 24:28 (CEB)
28 The vultures gather wherever there’s a dead body.
God is the Leader and God of all flesh the people made an error as far back as Samuel:
1 Samuel 10:19
And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations; and ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us. Now therefore present yourselves before the Lord by your tribes, and by your thousands.EDJ
Hi BD,
I agree with you in that Jesus is not a ‘man king’ (ref. John 6:15 & Heb.13:8), but I don’t agree with you
because the truth is Jesus Christ is God’s anointed Leader who baptizes us with God’s HolySpirit and with fire.This is the Christians spiritual rebirth, but first ‘you’ must believe Jesus died
on a cross for your sins, was buried, and was resurrected by God on the third day.No “Pentecost“ without “The Passover“
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door (The Passover) into the sheepfold,
but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth
in by the door is the shepherd (Pentecost) of the sheep.” (John 10:1-2)Bet it BD, try to climb up some other way.
Muhammad is the false prophet of Rev.13:13No “Pentecost“ without “The Passover“
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door (The Passover) into the sheepfold,
but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth
in by the door is the shepherd (Pentecost) of the sheep.” (John 10:1-2)Bet it BD, try to climb up some other way.
Muhammad is the false prophet of Rev.13:13Notice it’s called PASS OVER once you have done that you should be with GOD
Hi BD,
“Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
Therefore let us keep the feast (of Pentecost), not with old leaven,
neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the
unleavened bread (HolySpirit) of sincerity and truth.” (1 Cor 5:7-8)EDJ
today the Pope is the head of the Christian Church is he your leader and if not why not?
No he isn’t.
bodhitharta,
John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.Creation is not condemned but this world of sin is. God did not send his Spirit into the world to condemn the world but to condemn this current world of sin just as Noah condemned the world of sin that existed before the Great Deluge. (Hebrews 11:7)
Here is some words that may clarify my message:
Romans 8:19-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Hi BD,
They are not followers of Jesus but of a denominational leader.
They are not obedient to the command of Jesus but reliant on men, formulas and magic.
You are looking at the wide path.
The false religion of the whore.
Look at the colours of the whore shown in Revelation
Red=man
Purple=religion.
Read the design of the Jewish temple and you will find that blue represents God.
The whore’s garb does not involve blue.
Hi Kerwin
Creation is not condemned but this world of sin is. God did not send his Spirit into the world to condemn the world but to condemn this current world of sin just as Noah condemned the world of sin that existed before the Great Deluge. (Hebrews 11:7)
Okay, that is much clearer and a great comparison:
Matthew 24:37-38King James Version (KJV)
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Hi Nick
Hi BD,
They are not followers of Jesus but of a denominational leader.
They are not obedient to the command of Jesus but reliant on men, formulas and magic.
You are looking at the wide path.
The false religion of the whore.
Look at the colours of the whore shown in Revelation
Red=man
Purple=religion.
Read the design of the Jewish temple and you will find that blue represents God.
The whore’s garb does not involve blue.
This is the original MOTHER church and yet you reject the anointed leader of it, has your religion gone astray are you a protestant, do you protest the teachings of the Pope? Have you entered the some other way than the established way?
Ed J,
Mahomet dies of poisoned lamb because someone who lived according to the flesh murdered him. That is not evidence that he was a false prophet.
Hi Kerwin,
You seem to be missing the connection, I’ll spell it out once more for you.
Point #1: Muhammad said if He was a false prophet al-Lah would cut off the artery of his heart.
Later Muhammad said: “O Aishah! I still feel the pain caused by the (poison lamb) food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time,
I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”Point #2: Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.
And Muhammad did not eat the Lamb (Jesus) that gives life he instead ate a lamb that brought death.In point #1 Muhammad identifies himself as a false prophet. And
in point #2 Muhammad eats a poison lamb instead of eating of the lamb of God that gives lifeRev.13:13, Gal.1:8, and 2Cor.11:14 are specific Prophecies given about satan delivering his recital/unholy book to him.
B’shem
YHVHYou seem to be missing the connection, I’ll spell it out once more for you.
Point #1: Muhammad said if He was a false prophet al-Lah would cut off the artery of his heart[/size.
Later Muhammad said: “O Aishah! I still feel the pain caused by the (poison lamb) food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time,
I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”Point #2: Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.
And Muhammad did not eat the Lamb (Jesus) that gives life he instead ate a lamb that brought death.In point #1 Muhammad identifies himself as a false prophet. And
in point #2 Muhammad eats a poison lamb instead of eating of the lamb of God that gives lifeRev.13:13, Gal.1:8, and 2Cor.11:14 are specific Prophecies given about satan delivering his recital/unholy book to him.
Point 1 The Quran says that not Muhammad and it has to do with PREVENTING a false prophet, however since MUHAMMAD completed his work it cannot apply
Point 2 No matter what Muhammad ate he would have eventually died which of the disciples who ate the flesh and blood of Christ are alive today? Many of them died horrible deaths:
Bartholomew (skinned alive and beheaded)
James, the Lesser (stoned and clubbed-to-death)
Andrew (crucified upside down on an X-shaped cross)
Judas Iscariot (suicide, death by hanging)
Peter (crucified upside down)
John (thrown into boiling oil, but survived)
Thomas (impaled by a spear)—Called by most Christians as the “Doubting Thomas” for disbelieving the Lord’s Resurrection.
James, the Great (beheaded)—Brother of the Apostle John.
Phillip (crucified)
Matthew (burned-to-death?)
Jude Thaddeus (sawed or axed to death?).
Simon the Zealot (sawed or axed-to-death?)
The scriptures say
John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.I would say that if Jesus was actually crucified and killed the entire world would be condemned and so God saved Jesus from being killed or crucified….this would in no way nullify him being a life giving spirit because the scriptures say
John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.Only later did the idea of believing in the crucufixion and resurrection become a fixture, because Jesus was telling them to believe in him while he was alive.
Why do deny Jesus’ own words where he said he was going to be killed and rise on the third day?
You pretend that those words are not in the bible; all this to protect the false prophet.
How low will you go? Will you even resort to killing for the false prophet?Hi BD,
Jesus proved that death is an illusion for men that are reborn of the Spirit.
They remain alive to God.
Why not? hundreds of millions of Christians say he is the anointed leader, why not you?
I don’t know any who say that???
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