Jesus – LORD God – the evidence.

[Anonymous]

Discussion of who Jesus is – nature, etc.

I know that there are many such threads already begun and started, even 'finished' [not sure that this topic is ever 'exhausted', for some will continue as they will no matter the evidence], but if any would not mind, I, as a representative member of that scripturally and prophectically foretold Seventh Day Adventist movement, the remnant, would like to begin discussion on this very topic, and consider those texts which are prominent and yet also those normally neglected in such exchanges.

In prayerful study of the Word [Bible], even Line upon Line, my own decision is to agree with what is written, namely that Jesus is LORD God, and by this expression, meaning YHVH Elohim, even specifically the person of the Son.

This discussion may also range to the Father, and also the Holy Spirit, both also persons, each also LORD God, as well if needed, but the primary focus of this thread is to discuss Jesus, Himself.

[a bit, in very brief, of my own background, is that I was born and raised Roman Catholic for 30 years, and had at one point held to the Roman Catholic teaching of their “Trinity” [which in truth is no Trinity, official documentation upon request, without attack upon anyone, but rather examination of history, doctrine and teaching alone], but once God providentially has opened the Truth of His word unto me, I have since had to start from scratch, and begin again.  Therefore I had to at one point relinquish what I had previously thought I knew and understood, when it came into contact with the Bible and what it teaches.  In so doing, I had to re-evaluate if Jesus was truly LORD God.  I have considered the Arian, Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarian positions, and even the Roman Catholic version further since then and more; etc.  Each of these positions I had to also turn away from, and remain with what is Truth.  As I have continued to study prayerfully in God's Word, the conclusion that God has led me to, is where I am today, upon the solid foundation.  The 7th Day Adventist movement is where the Light is shining brightest on every single doctrine, for it truly is the remnant and carries with it the faith once delivered to the saints, and each such doctrine may be fully demonstrated from the Holy Scripture.

One may begin here, for a good start, on each such doctrine, and if there are any questions, please begin a thread to discuss it, with a clearly defined Title: http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn  ]

I, therefore, invite all [no matter their practice, belief, creed, religion, or lack thereof] to participate with me, not merely to reply, but to listen and read as well, even as I will so do with those which decide to discuss.

[david]

Who is Jesus?

You believe he is Michael.

Why?

[terraricca]

d

I do believe what scriptures says ;

Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

add one more he his the only begotten son of God

[Anonymous]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 25 2012,07:47)

d I do believe what scriptures says ; Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, add one more he his the only begotten son of God

Is it important to know who Jesus is? Absolutely. Therefore, let us go to the scriptures, even “line upon line” (John 18:23)?  Are not the Scriptures a “Light unto our path” (Psalms 119:105)?  

To preempt questions, “Isn't Jesus called the “son of God””?  (“Yes.”) the scriptures declare in very many places that Jesus is “God's own Son” (Romans 8:3) and even called the “Son of God” (1 John 5:20) and even the “Son of the Father” (2 John 1:3), the “beloved Son” (Matthew 3:17), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.
 
Is that all that the scripture speaks about who Jesus is?  No.

To preempt questions,   “Doesn't the scripture call Jesus a “man”?”  (“Yes.”) the scriptures also teach that Jesus was at one point a “child” (Luke 2:40) and “man child” (Revelation 12:5), the “babe” (Luke 2:16) and that the “virgin shall be with child and bring forth a son” (Matthew 1:23), the “man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.  

Is that all that the scripture speaks about who Jesus is?  No.  

To preempt questions, “Doesn't the scripture teach that Jesus existed before He became a man?”  (“Yes.”) the scriptures also teach that Jesus existed (for the moment, “existence before” is the only point being here addressed) before being incarnated as a man, “before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58), “whose goings forth  [have been] from of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2), “before all things” (Colossians 1:17), “Without Father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days…” (Hebrews 7:3), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.  

But we must then ask ourselves, “Is that all that Scripture declares Jesus to be?” No, for verily it declares Him to be none other than YHVH God, Jehovah Elohim.  We shall see this a bit later, but first, let us look at some texts in regards to the “first born”, and ask some of the harder questions.

Let us look at the “first born” texts:

For instance “first born”, using the texts themselves, comparing scripture with scripture:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:15

“Firstborn”, what does this mean when it refers to Jesus in Colossians 1:15? Well, we must consider other texts [and immediate context] to determine that answer for the Bible is “precept upon precept, line upon line”.

Exodus 4:22, Israel is called “firstborn”, yet we can know by scripture that Esau, and not Jacob [Israel], was the literal firstborn [Genesis 25:25-26]. We can also know by scripture that Jesus is the True Israel [Hosea 11:1 and Matthew 2:15].

Psalms 89:27, David is called “firstborn”, yet we can know by scripture that David is actually the youngest [8th son] of Jesse [1 Samuel 16:10-11]. We can also see by the use in Psalms 89:27 that “firstborn” is related to pre-eminence “higher than the kings of the earth”. David was a type of Christ. Obviously the term “firstborn” in this instance does not actually mean first to be born, but rather “pre-eminent, first over all, special, chosen, headship, of blessing, chief”.

Jeremiah 31:9, Ephraim is called “firstborn”, yet we can know by scripture that Manasseh was the literal “firstborn” of Joseph [Genesis 41:50-52].

1 Chronicles 26:10 really shows this usage clearly: “Also Hosah, of the children of Merari, had sons; Simri the chief, (for [though] he was not the firstborn, yet his father made him the chief; )” 1 Chronicles 26:10

Even in Job 18:12-13 [“firstborn of death”] and in Isaiah 14:30 [“firstborn of the poor”], the term “firstborn” in these instances is being used in a figurative sense. Like “disease and decay” or “chiefest of the poor”, the most poorest of them.

The Greek word for “first created” is “Protoktioti”, but Paul [a Jew, raised a Pharisee] chooses carefully the “chosen” headship connotation Greek word instead: “Prototokos” [“Firstborn”].

So when we consider again the usage in Colossians 1:15, let us look at the immediate context to see if Paul meant “firstborn” in the sense of “headship and pre-eminence of promise” or “first created”.

We go to Colossians 1:18:

“And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.” Colossians 1:18

“head of the body…who is the beginning…have the preeminence.”; Paul solves the issue for us, line upon line.

After this, how can any say that Jesus is created using that “firstborn” text? None who are honest with the Scriptures themselves.

Additionally, looking at the texts, we know from scripture that Jesus was not the first raised from the dead, as there are several examples in the Old Testament.  Most of them “fell on sleep” again, awaiting their respective resurrection [there are several], with but one exception; being “Moses”.  Moses was raised from the dead by Jesus/Michael [will explain in a bit], and taken to Heaven [“third”; “paradise”], never to die again, even as we see from the scriptures in Jude 1:9; Matthew 17; Mark 9; Luke 9; 2 Peter 1:16-21; Romans 5:14; and two others were simply translated alive into Heaven without seeing death [Enoch and Elijah]. [This we will consider a bit further if needed]

However, at this time, let us also consider an historical statement garnered from a Roman Historian, who not being a Christian, and having no reason to fabricate what he learned through interrogation, namely Pliny The Younger, and see what he himself, gathered from the Christians being persecuted for their faith.

“… They stated that the sum of their guilt or error amounted to this, that they used to gather on a stated day before dawn and sing to Christ as if he were a god, and that they took an oath not to involve themselves in villainy, but rather to commit no theft, no fraud, no adultery; not to break faith, nor to deny money placed with them in trust. Once these things were done, it was their custom to part and return later to eat a meal together, innocently, although they stopped this after my edict, in which I, following your mandate, forbade all secret societies. …” [Pliny The Younger; Epistulae, Volume X, Number 96 [English]] – http://www.tyrannus.com/pliny_let.html

“…Adfirmabant autem hanc fuisse summam vel culpae suae vel erroris, quod essent soliti stato die ante lucem convenire carmenque Christo quasi deo dicere secum invicem seque sacramento non in scelus aliquod obstringere, sed ne furta, ne latrocinia, ne adulte
ria committerent, ne fidem fallerent, ne depositum appellati abnegarent; quibus peractis, morem sibi discedendi fuisse rursusque coeundi ad capiendum cibum, promiscuum tamen et innoxium; quod ipsum facere desisse post edictum meum, quo secundum mandata tua hetaerias esse vetueram. …” [Pliny The Younger; Epistulae, Volume X, Number 96 [Latin]] – http://www.tyrannus.com/pliny_let.html

[5.] We see evidence that these true Christians worshiped “Christ” as “a god” and would not worship others, nor of the “image” of Caesar, even in the face of “torture” and death. This is also verified in the scripture (Luke 24:52; John1:1-18; etc *c).

Now that we have seen a tiny piece of Scripture, and a bit of Historical record, let us consider what else is said by the scriptures, and begin to ask the hard questions.

May I begin to ask such questions?  Hopefully, they may generate a search of the scriptures for their answers.

[Anonymous]

Quote (david @ Nov. 24 2012,12:34)

Who is Jesus? You believe he is Michael.   Why?

Would you like the short answer, or the complete, detailed and most thorough answer?

The short answer – Revelation 12 has an unbreakable structure in identification.

The complete, detailed and most thorough answer. may be given upon request, if any are willing to read it through.

[terraricca]

Quote (AWHN @ Nov. 25 2012,07:31)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 25 2012,07:47) d I do believe what scriptures says ; Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, add one more he his the only begotten son of God Is it important to know who Jesus is? Absolutely. Therefore, let us go to the scriptures, even “line upon line” (John 18:23)?  Are not the Scriptures a “Light unto our path” (Psalms 119:105)?   To preempt questions, “Isn't Jesus called the “son of God””?  (“Yes.”) the scriptures declare in very many places that Jesus is “God's own Son” (Romans 8:3) and even called the “Son of God” (1 John 5:20) and even the “Son of the Father” (2 John 1:3), the “beloved Son” (Matthew 3:17), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.   Is that all that the scripture speaks about who Jesus is?  No. To preempt questions,   “Doesn't the scripture call Jesus a “man”?”  (“Yes.”) the scriptures also teach that Jesus was at one point a “child” (Luke 2:40) and “man child” (Revelation 12:5), the “babe” (Luke 2:16) and that the “virgin shall be with child and bring forth a son” (Matthew 1:23), the “man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.   Is that all that the scripture speaks about who Jesus is?  No.   To preempt questions, “Doesn't the scripture teach that Jesus existed before He became a man?”  (“Yes.”) the scriptures also teach that Jesus existed (for the moment, “existence before” is the only point being here addressed) before being incarnated as a man, “before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58), “whose goings forth  [have been] from of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2), “before all things” (Colossians 1:17), “Without Father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days…” (Hebrews 7:3), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.   But we must then ask ourselves, “Is that all that Scripture declares Jesus to be?”  No, for verily it declares Him to be none other than YHVH God, Jehovah Elohim.  We shall see this a bit later, but first, let us look at some texts in regards to the “first born”, and ask some of the harder questions. Let us look at the “first born” texts: For instance “first born”, using the texts themselves, comparing scripture with scripture: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:15 “Firstborn”, what does this mean when it refers to Jesus in Colossians 1:15? Well, we must consider other texts [and immediate context] to determine that answer for the Bible is “precept upon precept, line upon line”. Exodus 4:22, Israel is called “firstborn”, yet we can know by scripture that Esau, and not Jacob [Israel], was the literal firstborn [Genesis 25:25-26]. We can also know by scripture that Jesus is the True Israel [Hosea 11:1 and Matthew 2:15]. Psalms 89:27, David is called “firstborn”, yet we can know by scripture that David is actually the youngest [8th son] of Jesse [1 Samuel 16:10-11]. We can also see by the use in Psalms 89:27 that “firstborn” is related to pre-eminence “higher than the kings of the earth”. David was a type of Christ. Obviously the term “firstborn” in this instance does not actually mean first to be born, but rather “pre-eminent, first over all, special, chosen, headship, of blessing, chief”. Jeremiah 31:9, Ephraim is called “firstborn”, yet we can know by scripture that Manasseh was the literal “firstborn” of Joseph [Genesis 41:50-52]. 1 Chronicles 26:10 really shows this usage clearly: “Also Hosah, of the children of Merari, had sons; Simri the chief, (for [though] he was not the firstborn, yet his father made him the chief; )” 1 Chronicles 26:10 Even in Job 18:12-13 [“firstborn of death”] and in Isaiah 14:30 [“firstborn of the poor”], the term “firstborn” in these instances is being used in a figurative sense. Like “disease and decay” or “chiefest of the poor”, the most poorest of them. The Greek word for “first created” is “Protoktioti”, but Paul [a Jew, raised a Pharisee] chooses carefully the “chosen” headship connotation Greek word instead: “Prototokos” [“Firstborn”]. So when we consider again the usage in Colossians 1:15, let us look at the immediate context to see if Paul meant “firstborn” in the sense of “headship and pre-eminence of promise” or “first created”. We go to Colossians 1:18: “And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.” Colossians 1:18 “head of the body…who is the beginning…have the preeminence.”; Paul solves the issue for us, line upon line. After this, how can any say that Jesus is created using that “firstborn” text? None who are honest with the Scriptures themselves. Additionally, looking at the texts, we know from scripture that Jesus was not the first raised from the dead, as there are several examples in the Old Testament.  Most of them “fell on sleep” again, awaiting their respective resurrection [there are several], with but one exception; being “Moses”.  Moses was raised from the dead by Jesus/Michael [will explain in a bit], and taken to Heaven [“third”; “paradise”], never to die again, even as we see from the scriptures in Jude 1:9; Matthew 17; Mark 9; Luke 9; 2 Peter 1:16-21; Romans 5:14; and two others were simply translated alive into Heaven without seeing death [Enoch and Elijah]. [This we will consider a bit further if needed] However, at this time, let us also consider an historical statement garnered from a Roman Historian, who not being a Christian, and having no reason to fabricate what he learned through interrogation, namely Pliny The Younger, and see what he himself, gathered from the Christians being persecuted for their faith. “… They stated that the sum of their guilt or error amounted to this, that they used to gather on a stated day before dawn and sing to Christ as if he were a god, and that they took an oath not to involve themselves in villainy, but rather to commit no theft, no fraud, no adultery; not to break faith, nor to deny money placed with them in trust. Once these things were done, it was their custom to part and return later to eat a meal together, innocently, although they stopped this after my edict, in which I, following your mandate, forbade all secret societies. …” [Pliny The Younger; Epistulae, Volume X, Number 96 [English]] – http://www.tyrannus.com/pliny_let.html “…Adfirmabant autem hanc fuisse summam vel culpae suae ve l erroris, quod essent soliti stato die ante lucem convenire carmenque Christo quasi deo dicere secum invicem seque sacramento non in scelus aliquod obstringere, sed ne furta, ne latrocinia, ne adulteria committerent, ne fidem fallerent, ne depositum appellati abnegarent; quibus peractis, morem sibi discedendi fuisse rursusque coeundi ad capiendum cibum, promiscuum tamen et innoxium; quod ipsum facere desisse post edictum meum, quo secundum mandata tua hetaerias esse vetueram. …” [Pliny The Younger; Epistulae, Volume X, Number 96 [Latin]] – http://www.tyrannus.com/pliny_let.html [5.] We see evidence that these true Christians worshiped “Christ” as “a god” and would not worship others, nor of the “image” of Caesar, even in the face of “torture” and death. This is also verified in the scripture (Luke 24:52; John1:1-18; etc *c). Now that we have seen a tiny piece of Scripture, and a bit of Historical record, let us consider what else is said by the scriptures, and begin to ask the hard questions. May I begin to ask such questions?  Hopefully, they may generate a search of the scriptures for their answers.

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To preempt questions, “Doesn't the scripture call Jesus a “man”?” (“Yes.”) the scriptures also teach that Jesus was at one point a “child” (Luke 2:40) and “man child” (Revelation 12:5), the “babe” (Luke 2:16) and that the “virgin shall be with child and bring forth a son” (Matthew 1:23), the “man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5), etc, but let us not stop with these statements, let us continue to see if more is yet said on Him.

yes all true but that s how other called him ;when Jesus talk about himself he called himself “THE SON OF MAN ” why is that

[Anonymous]

“Son of Man” is the terminology being a reference to the prophecies in the book of Daniel [Daniel 7:13; 8:14; 9:24-27, etc specifically the 2,300 years [457 BC – AD 1844], and the 70 weeks [490 years; 457 BC – AD 34]; scriptural/historical verification evidence upon request. in the following thread to come https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=4444  ]… even as Jesus Himself speaks of that Prophet, for this our day [Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14].

[terraricca]

Quote (AWHN @ Nov. 25 2012,07:58)

“Son of Man” is the terminology being a reference to the prophecies in the book of Daniel [Daniel 7:13; 8:14; 9:24-27, etc specifically the 2,300 years [457 BC – AD 1844], and the 70 weeks [490 years; 457 BC – AD 34]; scriptural/historical verification evidence upon request. in the following thread to come https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=4444  ]… even as Jesus Himself speaks of that Prophet, for this our day [Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14].

yes ,but it is in Ezek that the name “son of Man ” is demonstated the most

[david]

Quote (AWHN @ Nov. 25 2012,12:33)

Quote (david @ Nov. 24 2012,12:34) Who is Jesus? You believe he is Michael.   Why? Would you like the short answer, or the complete, detailed and most thorough answer? The short answer – Revelation 12 has an unbreakable structure in identification. The complete, detailed and most thorough answer. may be given upon request, if any are willing to read it through.

I've posted my own very long answer so I would definitely read yours.

[Anonymous]

Ok, thank you for this opportunity to present the texts on Michael/Jesus, in their marvelous beauty.  Also, if you will not mind, I would like to also present the standard Reformation and Protestant understanding as well, in their historical setting.  I would ask, that all wait until the full presentation be given, and then ask questions, as many questions will be answered in the giving.

[terraricca]

awhn

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“head of the body…who is the beginning…have the preeminence.”; Paul solves the issue for us, line upon line.

so the bible code for understanding his ;LINE UPON LINE ” right

[Anonymous]

The Great Controversy – Michael vs Dragon  

The Great Controversy – Michael vs Dragon [iow – Jesus vs Satan]:

The Great Controversy [Book; PDF]

Who is MICHAEL ARCHANGEL according to the Word of GOD?

Why do I, and others, including respected, even well-known Reformation/Protestant Bible commentators believe that the scriptures clearly reveal HIM to be none other than CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF before HIS coming to this earth in which HE then clothed HIS divinity with humanity?

Does this mean that CHRIST JESUS is somehow not GOD THE SON [the ETERNAL SELF-EXISTANT ONE, HE in whom is LIFE, unborrowed, underived, uncreated]?

No, in no way.

Please understand, that this study in no way degrades the Deity, Divinity [GODHEAD] of CHRIST JESUS, but rather it reveals that HE has always been the True and Ever-Living GOD who has ever taken a personal interest in us and battled for Truth and Life.  This shall be shown from further texts and questions after this study.  Please be patient with me.  Thank you!

Please continue with me as we look into the Scriptures upon this subject. Also please know that this subject is meatier than a great deal of subjects and takes some time to go through, and some have a more difficult time with it than others, for there are a great many misconceptions out there on it, but we shall look at what even the great protestant scholars believed and wrote.

Why is it important to know?

This subject touches upon the Great Controversy between CHRIST JESUS and Satan that has been ongoing even until now, and soon to come to an end…

Let us see this Great Controversy:

Notice this unbreakable [John 10:35] structure of identification:

The Great Controversy, The Cosmic Conflict:

[War in Heaven]

[JESUS]“Michael”[Revelation 12:7;p]

[Satan]“Dragon”[Revelation 12:7;p]

[continued in the Garden of Eden]

[JESUS]“blood of the lamb”[Revelation 12:11;p] being that “lamb slain from the foundation of the world”[Revelation 13:8;p; see Genesis 3:21, 4:4, etc]

[Satan]“that old serpent”[Revelation 12:9;p, 12:14-15, 20:2; see Genesis 3:1,2,4,13,14]

[continued in the Earth]

[JESUS]“brought forth the man [child]”[Revelation 12:13;p]

[Satan]“cast out into the earth”[Revelation 12:9;p], “the devil is come down”[Revelation 12:12;p]

[continued in the Wilderness Temptations and Ministry]

[JESUS]“his Christ”[Revelation 12:10;p]

[Satan]“called the Devil”[Revelation 12:9;p] and “Satan”[Revelation 12:9;p] and “Being forty days tempted of the devil”[Luke 4:2, etc]

[continued at The Cross]

[JESUS]“the power of his Christ”[Revelation 12:10;p]

[Satan]“the accuser of our brethren is cast down”[Revelation 12:10;p]

[continued from then even until to this day…]

[JESUS/Followers]“remnant of her seed”[Revelation 12:17;p; see also “the seed”Genesis 3:15; Galatians 3:16 and also Acts 9:4-5, 22:7-8, 26:14-15]

[Satan/Followers]“the dragon was wroth”[Revelation 12:17;p], “face of the serpent”[Revelation 12:14;p]; “the serpent”[Revelation 12:15;p]

JESUS/MICHAEL:“Who is like unto God?”[Exodus 15:11; 1 Kings 8:23; Psalms 71:19; see also Deuteronomy 33:26; 2 Chronicles 6:14; Job 36:22; Psalms 35:10, 86:8, 89:8, 113:5; Jeremiah 10:6-7; Micah 7:18]

Satan behind the power:“Who [is] like unto the beast?”[Revelation 13:4;p]

JESUS/MICHAEL:“…behold, the world is gone after him.”[John 12:19;p]

Satan behind the Beast:“…all the world wondered after the beast.
“[Revelation 13:3;p]

So, who is MICHAEL according to the text?

It is none other than JESUS, GOD the SON, Uncreated Creator of Heaven and Earth and the Sea and all that in them is.

Revelation 12 seals the matter, permanently, but let us also consider many other texts so that there is no doubt whatsoever.

There are two “princes”[rulers] …

[1.] The Good [JESUS/MICHAEL, etc], the True and Everlasting “Prince” [GOD]

[2.] The Wicked [Satan/Dragon/Serpent/Devil, etc], the usurping “prince” [creature]
… let us look and see The Great Controversy still further:

[JESUS/MICHAEL]
“…the Prince of the Host…”[Daniel 8:11;p];
“…the Prince of Princes…”[Daniel 8:25;p];
“…Messiah the Prince…”[Daniel 9:25;p];
“…Michael, one of the Chief Princes…”[Daniel 10:13;p];
“…Michael your Prince…”[Daniel 10:21;p];
“…the prince of the covenant…”[Daniel 11:22;p];
“…Michael…the Great Prince…”[Daniel 12:1;p];
“…the Prince of Peace…”[Isaiah 9:6;p];
“…the Prince of Life…”[Acts 3:15;p];
“…a Prince and a Saviour…”[Acts 5:31;p];
“…Jesus Christ…Prince of the Kings of the Earth…”[Revelation 1:5;p].

MICHAEL is not “merely a Prince of GOD's People”, but is called in many places “Prince”[usually the word is “Sar” and means “Ruler, Prince, Chief”, etc]:

…so, when considering the word in this light, “prince” means “ruler” or even “chief”, then the language is more clear.

…and so CHRIST is also called all of those other Titles and names as well such as KING OF KINGS[Revelation 19:16] and this is not merely saying King of Kings of the Earth, but rather is saying HE is King over all Kings [compare with 1 Timothy 6:15, “Only Potentate”], KING OF THE JEWS[John 19:19], KING OF ISRAEL[John 1:49], the KING THAT COMETH[Luke 19:38] and LORD of LORD's[Revelation 17:14], the LORD FROM HEAVEN[1 Corinthians 15:47], the LORD OF ALL[Acts 10:36], the LORD OF PEACE[2 Thessalonians 3:16] etc.

[Satan/Dragon/Serpent/Devil]
“…devils through the prince of the devils.” [Matthew 9:34;p];
“…cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.” [Matthew 12:24;p];
“…Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devil.” [Mark 3:22;p];
“…the prince of this world…”[John 12:31;p];
“…the prince of this world…”[John 14:30;p];
“…the prince of this world is judged.” [John 16:11;p];
“…the prince of the power of the air…”[Ephesians 2:2;p];
“…against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]…”[Ephesians 6:12;p];
“…thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers…”[Colossians 1:16;p];
“…principalities and powers..
.”[Colossians 2:15;p].

…even Satan [the accusing usrper] is designated “god of this world”[2 Corinthians 4:4], “king”[Revelation 9:11], “lord”[Baal][Judges 2:13], a “father” of the wicked ones [John 8:44], his “children of disobedience”[Ephesians 2:2, 5:6; Colossians 3:6]…

Let us look deeper to be sure, but before we do, let us see if we are standing alone in this, or if this is also witnessed by others from the scriptures themselves…

To follow will be quotations from many others who also held to this very teaching of scripture [Jesus Christ is Michael Archangel, Uncreated Creator, Eternal, GOD [the SON]].

However, it must be said at the very beginning, none of these quotations were known of, until far after the HOLY SPIRIT had led in Bible study and prayer over this subject.

Also, for the remainder of the study, the scriptures shall be the only source book, as they should be, and I would ask all to hear and consider the matter and study yourself, but let these be given so that all may know, that Truth can be known.

“He that answereth a matter before he heareth [it], it [is] folly and shame unto him.”[Proverbs 18:13]

[Anonymous]

Let us look at those well respected commentators:

Charles Spurgeon [Baptist]

“Let the Lord Jesus Christ be for ever endeared to us, for through Him we are made to sit in heavenly places far above principalities and powers. He it is whose camp is round about them that fear Him; He is the true Michael whose foot is upon the dragon. All hail, Jesus! thou Angel of Jehovah’s presence, to Thee this family offers its morning vows.”[Charles Spurgeon; Morning and Evening Daily Readings; page 556; Morning Devotion; October 3 on Hebrews 1:14] – October 3 : Spurgeon's Morning Devotional : HEARTLIGHT®

“Michael will always fight; his holy soul is vexed with sin, and will not endure it. Jesus will always be the dragon’s foe, and that not in a quiet sense, but actively, vigorously, with full determination to exterminate evil.”[Charles Spurgeon; Morning and Evening Daily Readings; page 673; Evening Devotion; November 30 on Revelaton 12:7] – Spurgeon's Morning and Evening

John Gill [English Baptist Scholar]

“Another prophecy in Dan. xii. 1, 2, 3. represents the second and personal coming of Christ ; for he is meant by Michael, who is as God, as his name signifies, equal to him ; the great prince, the prince of the kings of the earth, and the head of all principalities and powers.”[A Complete Body of Practical and Doctrinal Divinity, The Baptist Standard Bearer, 1987 reprint, page 617; or A Body of Doctrinal Divinity; Book 7—Chapter 5; Of the Second Coming of Christ, and His Personal Appearance; section 1b2] – 5. Of the Second Coming of Christ, and His Personal Appearance.

“Yet Michael the archangel, &c. By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ; as appears from his name Michael, which signifies, “who is as God”: and who is as God, or like unto him, but the Son of God, who is equal with God? and from his character as the archangel, or Prince of angels, for Christ is the head of all principality and power; and from what is elsewhere said of Michael, as that he is the great Prince, and on the side of the people of God, and to have angels under him, and at his command, Dan. 10:21, 12:1; Rev. 12:7. So Philo the Jew {o} calls the most ancient Word, firstborn of God, the archangel. …” [John Gill's Exposition Of The Bible; Jude verse 9] – John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

“Michael and his angels fought against the dragon: by whom is meant not a created angel, with whom his name does not agree, it signifying “who is as God”; nor does it appear that there is anyone created angel that presides over the rest, and has them at his command. …” [John Gill's Exposition Of The Bible; Revelation 12:7] – John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

“And at that time shall Michael stand up, &c. The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father. …” [John Gill's Exposition Of The Bible; Daniel 12:1] – John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

Jonathan Edwards [Congregational; Theologian]

“When Lucifer rebelled and set up himself as a head in opposition to God and Christ, and set himself as a head in opposition to God and Christ, and drew away a great number of angels, the Son of God, manifested himself as an opposite head, and appeared graciously to dissuade and restrain by his grace the elect angels from hearkening to Lucifer’s temptation, so that they were upheld and preserved eternal destruction at this time of great danger by the free and sovereign distinguishing grace of Christ. Herein Christ was the Saviour of the elect angels, for thought he did not save them as he did elect men from the ruin they had already deserved, and were condemned to, and the miserable, state they were already in, yet he saved them from eternal destruction they were in great danger of, and otherwise would have fallen into with the other angels. The elect angels joined with him, the glorious Michael, as their captain, while the other angels hearkened to Lucifer and joined him, and then was that literally true that fulfilled afterwards figuratively. Rev xii. “When there was war in heaven : Michael and his angels fought against the dragon ; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not ; neither was there plac
e found any more heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world ; he was case out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.””[The Works of Jonathan Edwards, Volume 2, Banner of Truth, 1979 reprint, page 606] – Works of Jonathan Edwards, Volume Two – Christian Classics Ethereal Library

Matthew Henry [English Bible Commentator; Presbyterian Minister]

“Daniel 12:1 Vs. 1-4: Michael signifies, “Who is like God,” and his name, with the title of “the great Prince,” points out the Divine Savior. Christ stood for the children of our people in their stead as a sacrifice, bore the curse for them, to bear it from them. He stands for them in pleading for them at the throne of grace. And after the destruction of antichrist, the Lord Jesus shall stand at the latter day upon the earth; and He shall appear for the complete redemption of all his people.”[Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary; Daniel 12:1] – Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary on the Bible

“Michael and his angels fight against the devil and his angels, who are defeated. (7-12). . . .Revelation 12:7 Vs. 7-11: The attempts of the dragon proved unsuccessful against the church, and fatal to his own interests. The seat of this war was in heaven; in the church of Christ, the kingdom of heaven on earth. The parties were Christ, the great Angel of the covenant, and his faithful followers; and Satan and his instruments.”[Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary; Daniel 12:7] – Revelation 12 Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary on the Bible

“I. Jesus Christ shall appear his church's patron and protector: At that time, when the persecution is at the hottest, Michael shall stand up, v. 1. The angel had told Daniel what a firm friend Michael was to the church, ch. 10:21. He all along showed this friendship in the upper world; the angels knew it; but now Michael shall stand up in his providence, and work deliverance for the Jews, when he sees that their power is gone, Deu. 32:3. 6. Christ is that great prince, for he is the prince of the kings of the earth, Rev. 1:5. And, if he stand up for his church, who can be against it? But this is not all: At that time (that is, soon after) Michael shall stand up for the working out of our eternal salvation; the Son of God shall be incarnate, shall be manifested to destroy the works of the devil. Christ stood for the children of our people when he was made sin and a curse for them, stood in their stead as a sacrifice, bore the cure for them, to bear it from them. He stands for them in the intercession he ever lives to make within the veil, stands up for them, and stands their friend. And after the destruction of antichrist, of whom Antiochus was a type, Christ shall stand at the latter day upon the earth, shall appear for the complete redemption of all his.”[Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary; Daniel 12 verse 1-4] – Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary on the Bible

1599 Geneva Study Bible

“5:14 And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and {g} did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? (g) In that Joshua worships him, he acknowledges him to be God: and in that he calls himself the Lord's captain he declares himself to be Christ.”[1599 Geneva Study Bible; Footnote for Joshua 5:14] – geneva bible notes – joshua

“Even though God could by one angel destroy all the world, yet to assure his children of his love he sends forth double power, even Michael, that is, Christ Jesus the head of angels.”[1599 Geneva Study Bible; Footnote for Daniel 10:13] – geneva bible notes – daniel

“10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: {q} and [there is] none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince. (q) For this angel [Gabriel] was appointed for the defence of the Church under Christ, who is the head of it.” [1599 Geneva Study Bible; Footnote for Daniel 10:21] – geneva bible notes – daniel

“The angel here notes two things: first that the Church will be in great affliction and trouble at Christ's coming, and next that God will send his angel to deliver it, whom he here calls Michael, meaning Christ, who is proclaimed by the preaching of the Gospel.”[1599 Geneva Study Bible; Footnote for Daniel 12:1] – geneva bible notes – daniel

“(14) Christ is the Prince of angels and head of the Church, who bears that iron rod Re 12:5 . Also see Geneva “Da 12:1”. In this verse a description of the battle and of the victory in the two verses following Re 12:8,9 . The psalmist no
ted this battle as did Paul; Ps 68:9 Eph 4:8 Co 2:15 .” [1599 Geneva Study Bible; Footnote for Revelation 12:7] – geneva bible notes – revelation

John Calvin ['The' Calvinist]

“… As we stated yesterday, Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ, because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people. …” [John Calvin; Commentary On Daniel; Volume 2; Lecture Sixty-Five [65]] – Lecture Sixty-Five.

John Wesley ['The' Methodist]

“Verse 14. As captain – I am the chief captain of this people, and will conduct and assist thee and them in this great undertaking. Now this person is not a created angel, but the son of God, who went along with the Israelites in this expedition, as their chief and captain. And this appears,

1. By his acceptance of adoration here, which a created angel durst not admit of, Rev. xxii, 8, 9.

2. Because the place was made holy by his presence, ver. 15, which was God's prerogative, Exod. iii, 5.

3. Because he is called the Lord, Hebrew. Jehovah, chap. vi, 2. My Lord – I acknowledge thee for my Lord and captain, and therefore wait for thy commands, which I am ready to obey.” [John Wesley's Explanatory Notes; Joshua 5:14] – John Wesley's Notes on the Bible

“10:5 A certain man – Very probably Christ, who appeared to Daniel in royal and priestly robes, and in so great brightness and majesty.”[John Wesley's Explanatory Notes; Daniel 10:5] – John Wesley's Notes on the Bible

“10:13 Michael – Michael here is commonly supposed to mean Christ. I remained – To counter – work their designs against the people of God.” [John Wesley's Explanatory Notes; Daniel 10:13] – John Wesley's Notes on the Bible

“10:21 Michael – Christ alone is the protector of his church, when all the princes of the earth desert or oppose it.”[John Wesley's Explanatory Notes; Daniel 10:21] – John Wesley's Notes on the Bible

“…so there will be yet a greater deliverance to the people of God, when Michael your prince, the Messiah shall appear for your salvation. … The phrase at that time, probably includes all the time of Christ, from his first, to his last coming.”[John Wesley's Explanatory Notes; Daniel 12:1] – John Wesley's Notes on the Bible

Brown's Dictionary Of The Holy Bible [at least partially recognizes this; Calvinist]

“MICHAEL, the archangel, at least sometimes signifies Jesus Christ. He is the person who is as God, and which this name signifies; against him and his angels, his ministers and followers, the devil, and the heathen empire of Rome, and their agents, fought in the way of reproach, laws, persecutions, &c. Rev. xii. 7. He is the great Prince …, who,…shall raise the dead, Dan. xii. 1,2,3 …” [Rev. John Brown's Dictionary of The Bible; page 95 “MIC-MID”; heading “Michael” [partial recognition is better than nothing]] – A dictionary of the Holy Bible – John Brown – Google Books

James Wood Dictionary Of The Holy Bible [aka: Wood's Spiritual Dicionary, says the same; Methodist]

“MICHAEL, the archangel, at least sometimes signifies Jesus Christ. He is the person who is as God, and which this name signifies: against him and his angels, his ministers and followers, the devil, and the heathen empire of Rome, and their agents, fought in the way of reproach, laws, persecutions, &c. Rev. xii. 7. He is the great Prince …, who,…shall raise the dead, Dan. xii. 1,2,3 …”[James Wood Dictionary Of The Bible; Volume 2; page 165 “MIC-MIC” – page 166 “MIC-MID”; heading “Michael” [partial recognition is better than nothing]] – A dictionary of the Holy Bible: containing an historical account of the … – James Wood – Google Books

Ernst Wilhelm Hengstenberg [Lutheran; Dr. and Prof. Of Theology, Berlin]

“Michael is not mentioned again, after chap. x. 21, until chap. xii. 1, where it is said, “at that time shall Michael stand, the great prince, which standeth for the children of thy people.” “The great prince” (equivalent to the King of kings in the Revelation), serves as the complement to “one of the chief princes.” The rescue of Israel is here ascribed to Michael alone, and the subordinate task of Gabriel entirely vanishes. Bertholt supplies, in an arbitrary manner, “against the guardian spirit of the Graeco-Syrian kingdom.” Michael has to deal directly with the imperial power. The personification is dropped, as a proof that it has no reality.

The two passages in the New Testament, in which Michael is mentioned, serve to confirm the result already arrived at. That the Michael referred to in Rev. xii. 7 is no other than the Logos, has already been proved in my commentary upon that passage…” [Christology Of The Old Testament And A Commentary On The Messianic Predictions; Appendix iii; page 304 and onward] –Christology of the Old Testament: and a commentary on the Messianic predictions – Ernst Wilhelm Hengstenberg – Google Books

Thomas Scott [Anglican; Priest]

“Daniel 12 Verse 1: Michael signifies, Who is like God? And this name, with the title of “the great Prince, which standeth for the children of thy people,” most clearly points out the divine Saviour; and cannot properly be understood of a created angel.”[Thomas Scott [Anglican Priest; founder of the Church Missionary Society]; The Holy Bible Containing The Old And New Testaments, According To The Authorized Version, With Explanatory Notes, Pracitcal Observations And Copious Marginal References; Notes – Daniel Chapter XII. V. 1.; page 839] –Old Testament.- v. 3. New Testament – John Brown – Google Books

Thomas Haweis [Church Of England, Anglican]

“Daniel 12:1. Christ, the great Prince, shall stand up in the time of great tribulation, … or at the great day when he shall come to complete the redemption of his people, and to execute final vengeance on their enemies, when all that are written among the righteous, and found in the book of life of the Lamb, shall be delivered from the power of evil for ever.”[Thomas Haweis; The Evangelical Expositor, A Commentary On The Holy Bible; Daniel 12:1 [a complete detailed link to the exact quote could not be found online at this time, but when it does it should be updated, here is the book; original source for quotation follows]] –http://books.google.com/books….QwAACAAhttp:
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Adam Clarke's Commentary [Methodist; Theologian]

“Michael, he who is like God, sometimes appears to signify the Messiah, at other times the highest or chief archangel. Indeed there is no archangel mentioned in the whole Scripture but this one. See Jude 1:9; Revelation 12:7.” [Adam Clarke's Commentary; The Holy Bible Containing The Old And New Testaments: The Text Printed From The Most Correct Copies Of The Present Authorized Translation, Including The Marginal Readings And Parallel Texts, With A Commentary And Critical Notes. Designed As A Help To A Better Understanding Of The Sacred Writings, Volume IV [4]; Daniel 10; page 343] –The Holy Bible, containing the Old and New Testaments: the text printed from … – Adam Clarke, Methodist Episcopal Church – Google Books

“Notes on [Zechariah] Chapter III. Verse I. And he shewed me Joshua the Highpriest] The Angel of the Lord is the Messiah, as we have seen before …”[Adam Clarke's Commentary; The Holy Bible Containing The Old And New Testaments: The Text Printed From The Most Correct Copies Of The Present Authorized Translation, Including The Marginal Readings And Parallel Texts, With A Commentary And Critical Notes. Designed As A Help To A Better Understanding Of The Sacred Writings, Volume IV [4]; Zechariah 3:1; page 499] –The Holy Bible, containing the Old and New Testaments: the text printed from … – Adam Clarke, Methodist Episcopal Church – Google Books

“Verse 9. Yet Michael the archangel Of this personage many things are spoken in the Jewish writings “Rabbi Judah Hakkodesh says: Wherever Michael is said to appear, the glory of the Divine Majesty is always to be understood.” Shemoth Rabba, sec. ii., fol. 104,3. So that it seems as if they considered Michael in some sort as we do the Messiah manifested in the flesh.”

“Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host. Nor is the word devil, as applied to the great enemy of mankind, ever found in the plural; there can be but one monarch of all fallen spirits. Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders; the devil, great dragon, or Satan, is head of all the diabolic orders. When these two hosts are opposed to each other they are said to act under these two chiefs, as leaders; hence in Revelation 12:7, it is said: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the DRAGON and his angels. The word Michael seems to be compounded of mi, who, ke, like, and El, God; he who is like God; hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus.“[Adam Clarke's Commentary; Jude 9] – Jude 1 Clarke's Commentary on the Bible

“Michael was the man-child which the woman brought forth, as is evident from the context; … … Michael, he is “the great prince which standeth for the children of God's people.” Dan. xii. 1.“ [Adam Clarke's Commentary; The Holy Bible Containing The Old And New Testaments: The Text Printed From The Most Correct Copies Of The Present Authorized Translation, Including The Marginal Readings And Parallel Texts, With A Commentary And Critical Notes. Designed As A Help To A Better Understanding Of The Sacred Writings, Volume VI [6]; Revelation 12:7; page 927; [he gets the idea right that Michael is the man-child, and the “great prince”, which is obviously Jesus Christ, but though, to be true to the commentary, he writes that he thinks 'Michael' is the line of Christian Roman Emperors]] – The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments: the text printed from … – Adam Clarke – Google Books

Abingdon Bible Commentary“The idea of the heavenly being who thus comes to view as a feature in old apocalyptic tradition is the source of the conception of the heavenly Messiah—the Son of Man. . . . We have already seen that the heavenly being 'like unto a son of man' of Dan. 7 was probably identified by the author . . . with Israel's angel—prince Michael; this angelic being was later, it would seem, invested with Messianic attributes, and so became the pre-existent heavenly Messiah.” [Frederick Carl Eiselen; Edwin Lewis; David G. Downey; Abingdon Bible Commentary; page 846 [first link to mere book]; [also see; The Ezra-Apocalypse; page 284 [second link; just beware it references apocryphal material like the so-called 'book of enoch']] –Abingdon Bible Commentary – Frederick Carl Eiselen – Google Books
The Ezra-Apocalypse: being chapters 3-14 of the book commonly known as 4 … – Google Books

Lange's Commentary [Johann Peter Lange; German Calvinist]

“We have shown elsewhere that the Archangel Michael is an image of Christ victoriously combatant. Christ is an Archangel in His quality of judge; and He appears as judge, not only at the end of the world, but also in the preservation of the purity of His Church.”[Johann Peter Lange; Lange's Commentary; A Commentary Of The Holy Scriptures: Critical, Doctrinal And Homiletical, With Special Reference To Ministers And Students; page 238; Revelation 12:1-12] – A commentary on the Holy Scriptures: critical, doctrinal, and homiletical – Johann Peter Lange – Google Books

Wikipedia [The Free Online Encyclopedia]

“Some early Protestant scholars identified Michael with the pre-incarnate Christ, basing their view, partly on the juxtaposition of the “child” and the archangel in Revelation 12, and partly on the attributes ascribed to him in Daniel. [38]“
“[38] John A. Lees, The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1930, Vol. 3, page 2048″[Wikipedia; Michael (archangel)] – Michael (archangel) – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

International Standard Bible Encyclopedia [comment by John A. Lees]

“The earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael with the pre-incarnate Christ, finding support for their view, not only in the juxtaposition of the “child” and the archangel in Rev 12, but also in the attributes ascribed to him in Daniel.” – John A. Lees”[International Standard Bible Encyclopedia; comment by John A. Lees; section “Michael”] – MICHAEL in the Bible Encyclopedia – ISBE (Bible History Online)

Vine's Expository Dictionary [William Edwy Vine]

“[* From Notes on Thessalonians, by Hogg and Vine, pp. 142.] In 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the meaning seems to be that the voice of the Lord Jesus will be of the character of an “archangelic” shout“”[William Edwy Vine; Vine's Expository Dictionary; section “archangel”] – Archangel – Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words

James Glasgow D.D. [Irish General Assembly's Professor Of Oriental Languages]

“This being 'a war in the heaven,' and waged by Michael, who is Christ (whose warfare is not like that of earthly kings), and by His messengers, is an intellectual and polemical warfare.”[James Glasgow, D.D. Irish General Assembly's Professor Of Oriental Languages, Late Fellow Of The University Of Bombay, And Late Member Of The Royal Asiatic Society, Bombay; The Apocalypse; page 334, on Revelation 12:7] – The Apocalypse – Google Books

Now that we have seen all of these, let us not place our strength in men, nor their words, but in the Living God and His Word.

[Anonymous]

The Basic Definitions:

Michael: Hebrew: “Miyka'el” “מיכאל”; meaning: “who is like GOD” [Strong's Concordance] or “who is like unto GOD?”[Gesenius's Lexicon]; from Hebrew: “miy” “מי”; meaning: “who” and “kiy” “כי”; meaning: “that”, “yea”, “surely” and “'el” “אל”; meaning: “GOD”, “YHVH”[Strong's Concordance].

Greek: “Michaēl” “Μιχαήλ”; meaning: “who is like GOD” [Strong's Concordance] or “who is like GOD?”[Thayer's Lexicon]. So, the definition can also be described as: “Who is like unto God?” or “who surely [is] GOD”, “who that [is] GOD” and/or “[HE] who [is] what GOD [is]”, see and compare:

Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; (Hebrews 1:3).

Archangel: Greek: “archaggelos” “ἀρχάγγελος”; meaning: “archangel”, “Chief of Angels” [Strong's Concordance] [Thayer's Lexicon]; from Greek: “archō” “ἄρχω”; meaning: “to be Chief”, “Leader”, “Ruler” and “aggelos” “ἄγγελος”; meaning: “a messenger”, “envoy”, “one who is sent”, “an angel [of the Heavenly Host]”, “messenger from GOD”[Strong's Concordance] [Thayer's Lexicon]. So, the definition can rightly be concluded to mean “Chief or Ruler over those who are sent” or “Chief or Highest messenger” or “ruler over angels [messengers]”, etc.

Apostle: Greek: “apostolos” “ἀπόστολος”; meaning: “delegate”, “messenger”, “one sent forth”[Strong's Concordance] [Thayer's Lexicon]. So, the definition can rightly be said to mean “One who is sent forth”. [see Hebrews 3:1, Christ Jesus called “the Apostle”]

WORD: Greek: “logos” “λόγος”; meaning: “of speech”, “a word”, “sayings of GOD” [Strong's Concordance] or “collection of things put together in thought”[Thayer's Lexicon]. So, the definition can rightly be said to also mean “the WORD”, “the Message”, “that which is said by GOD”, “the thoughts of GOD towards us” [see John 1:1, etc, Christ Jesus called “the Word”]

Does each of the above apply to Christ Jesus? They do.

Let us see how in the scriptures.

Jesus is called “the Word” in John 1:1, and “the Word” signifies “the Logos”. The Word was sent into the world John 1:1-18; etc. The greatest message of the love of GOD, the SON of the FATHER.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. John 1:10

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. John 1:11

Jesus is called “the Apostle” in Hebrews 3:1 and “the Apostle” signifies “the sent”. CHRIST JESUS was sent into the world by the FATHER, the greatest messenger of Love of GOD, the SON of the FATHER.

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. (John 3:11)

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. (John 3:13)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17)

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. (Galatians 2:20)

He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. (1 John 5:10)

Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence [him] when they see him. (Luke 20:13)

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. (John 5:30)

But I have greater witness than [that] of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. (John 5:36)

And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. (John 5:37)

And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. (John 6:39)

I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. (John 8:18)

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. (John 8:42)

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? (John 10:36)

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. (John 12:49)

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

Now, let us see if Jesus is anywhere called “Prince”, “Chief”, “Captain”, “Ruler” and “Messenger”, etc directly:

“Messiah the Prince”, “the Prince of the Host”, “Prince of Princes”, “the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people”, “Prince of Life”, “a Prince and Saviour”, “Jesus Christ…Prince of the Kings of the Earth” and “Prince of Peace”, etc:

Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. (Daniel 9:25)

Yea, he magnified [himself] even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily [sacrifice] was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. (Daniel 8:11)

And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. (Daniel 8:25)

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)

And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
(Acts 3:15)

Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. (Acts 5:31)

And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (Revelation 1:5)

So who then is “the Prince” on the side of Good?

It is Christ Jesus.

Is there then an opposing side, such as a prince of evil, a usurping prince, a false claimant, one who has said in their heart “I will be like the Most High”?

Yes, and these passages will be seen in the coming studies of the scriptures.

We shall recognize that there is a Great Controversy between these two…

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. (Daniel 10:13)[each of the following passages are to be discussed in greater detail a little later]

But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and [there is] none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince. (Daniel 10:21)

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (Daniel 12:1)

And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? (Joshua 5:14)

What about “Messenger”? Is Jesus ever directly called this?

Yes.

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. (Malachi 3:1)

Also consider for future study, remember, the word “angel” simply means “messenger” and the context always details its use, and in further study we shall see this in far greater detail:

In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. (Isaiah 63:9)

Let us first gather the texts which specifically name Michael Archangel, or Archangel or Michael, and a little later we shall look much more closely at them:

There are only 3 Old Testament passages that directly name Michael[as to the person whom we are discussing]:

…but, lo, Michael…(Daniel 10:13;p)

…[there is] none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince. (Daniel 10:21;p)

And at that time shall Michael … (Daniel 12:1;p)

There are only 2 New Testament passages that directly name Michael:

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil … (Jude1:9;p)

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (Revelation 12:7)

There is 1 additional New Testament passage that directly speaks of the Archangel:

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel… (1 Thessalonians 4:16;p)

Now let us look in more detail…
 
Indeed, Jesus is GOD [the SON]. Thus the Name/Title, MICHAEL – “Who is like unto God?” There is none…

But, shouldn't we recognize this saying/question? Where have we heard a similar boast in opposition to it? Let us see closer…

Recap:

Michael: Hebrew: “Miyka'el” “מיכאל”; meaning: “who is like GOD” [Strong's Concordance] or “who is like unto GOD?”[Gesenius's Lexicon]; from Hebrew: “miy” “מי”; meaning: “who” and “kiy” “כי”; meaning: “that”, “yea”, “surely” and “'el” “אל”; meaning: “GOD”, “YHVH”[Strong's Concordance].

Greek: “Michaēl” “Μιχαήλ”; meaning: “who is like GOD” [Strong's Concordance] or “who is like GOD?”[Thayer's Lexicon]. So, the definition can also be described as: “Who is like unto God?” or “who surely [is] GOD”, “who that [is] GOD” and/or “[HE] who [is] what GOD [is]”, see and compare:

Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; (Hebrews 1:3).

So we have Christ Jesus, Michael“Who is like unto God?”

Is it not repeated and answered in scripture?

“Who [is] like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who [is] like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful [in] praises, doing wonders?” [Exodus 15:11]

“…LORD God of Israel, [there is] no God like thee, in heaven above, or on earth beneath…” [1 Kings 8:23;p]

“Thy righteousness also, O God, [is] very high, who hast done great things: O God, who [is] like unto thee!” [Psalms 71:19].

See also Deuteronomy 33:26; 2 Chronicles 6:14; Job 36:22; Psalms 35:10, 86:8, 89:8, 113:5; Jeremiah 10:6-7; Micah 7:18.

And so we also have Satan behind the [1st] Beast of Revelation 13[the Beast power which “stands in and/or takes the place of the Son” in the unholy tri-in-unity, Dragon [Satan, the Father of lies], the Beast [satan behind it, standing in and/or taking the place of the Son, “anti-christos”[greek] or “vicarius christi”[latin]], and the False Prophet[2nd Beast of Revelation 13; apostate protestant north america], thus taking the place of the Holy Spirit, by a false and lying spirit] where it is said of the Beast, “Who [is] like unto the beast?”[Revelation 13:4;p].

So we have a direct correlation in Revelation 13 of the ongoing Great Controversy and/or Cosmic Conflict between Michael [Christ Jesus] and Satan. We have already seen that this is proven to be so by the very texts and structure of Revelation 12 and many others, and we shall also study the texts of Daniel etc..

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Revelation 12:1

And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Revlation 12:2

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Revelation 12:3

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. Revelation 12:4

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne. Revelation 12:5

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days. Revelation 12:6

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Revelation 12:7

Notice that Michael has angels [they are his] and the Dragon has angels. Notice that the word “Dragon” in this instance is merely another name/title for Satan/Lucifer.

We shall also find throughout Revelation that proper names are primarily symbolic of something they signify. [For instance, “Gog and Magog”, “Jezebel”, “Antipas”, “Balaam”, “Babylon”, etc.]

Thus, since the “Dragon” is “that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan”[Revelation 13:9;p], we then may conclude by immediate context
and structure that “Michael” is also found to be identified clearly in the surrounding verses as well.

In fact, they are both [Michael and Dragon] identified chiastically in several ways as we have already seen from the first post so as to make no mistake in their identities and their identities cannot be broken as given from Revelation 12. We also know that Revelation is about a revealing of Jesus Christ throughout…

Let us look at some further texts…

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (1 Thessalonians 4:16)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. (John 5:25) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, (John 5:28) And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (John 5:29)

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:52

One passage says that the LORD shall descend with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel, so raising the Dead, and the other passages say that the voice of the Son of GOD will be heard and then the Dead shall be brought forth from their graves, either unto Life or Damnation.

Is this two voices being heard as some like to suggest? Or is it rather, according to the scripture, that the Voice of the Archangel and that of the Son of GOD are the same voice?

This last fits perfectly with these texts and others, which declare that the Voice itself is the cause of the resurrection of the Dead.

So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens [be] no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. Job 14:12

O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! Job 14:13

If a man die, shall he live [again]? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. Job 14:14

Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands. Job 14:15

As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. Psalms 17:15

God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet. Psalms 47:5

Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. Psalms 50:3

He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. Psalms 50:4

Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread [the grapes], against all the inhabitants of the earth. Jeremiah 25:30

Thy dead [men] shall live, [together with] my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew [is as] the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Isaiah 26:19

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:31

Compare also Exodus 19 and 20, when GOD came down, the sound of the “trumpet”.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Revelation 1:10

After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Revelation 4:1

CHRIST JESUS is MICHAEL ARCHANGEL, our LORD and GOD who shall come, and shall call to the earth and HE shall Roar from on High, a mighty roar, with a s
hout, and shall not keep silent, with a great voice, as of a trumpet, with the voice of the ARCHANGEL [the Highest Messenger], and the dead in CHRIST shall rise first, those who have died in the LORD shall awake and shout and sing…

…let us see further comparisons in the texts.

[2besee]

Wow AWHN that must have taken you ages (with all the colors and things!) God bless.

[2besee]

God bless the Adventists.

[Anonymous]

Let us now consider another comparison:

That of Joshua with the Captain of the Host of the LORD and Moses with the LORD GOD – Shoes, Worship and Holy Ground:

Joshua:

And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, [Art] thou for us, or for our adversaries? (Joshua 5:13)

And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? (Joshua 5:14)

And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so. (Joshua 5:15)

Moses:

And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed. (Exodus 3:2)

And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here [am] I. (Exodus 3:4)

And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy ground. (Exodus 3:5)

Moreover he said, I [am] the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. (Exodus 3:6)

And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my peoplewhich [are] in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows; (Exodus 3:7)

And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites. (Exodus 3:8)

Acts:

And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush. (Acts 7:30)

When Moses saw [it], he wondered at the sight: and as he drew near to behold [it], the voice of the Lord came unto him, (Acts 7:31)

[Saying], I [am] the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold. (Acts 7:32)

Then said the Lord to him, Put off thy shoes from thy feet: for the place where thou standest is holy ground. (Acts 7:33)

I have seen, I have seen the affliction of my people which is in Egypt, and I have heard their groaning, and am come down to deliver them. And now come, I will send thee into Egypt. (Acts 7:34)

This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send [to be] a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush. (Acts 7:35)

This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. (Acts 7:37)

This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and [with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: (Acts 7:38)

One passage says that Joshua met a “man over against him with his sword drawn” that had come to him as the “Captain of the LORD's Host” and he then “fell on his face” and did “Worship” unto him.

This “Worship” was never turned away as any other “Angel” [Created host of Heaven or created messenger, a man] would have immediately done:

And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. (Revelation 19:10)

Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. (Revelation 22:9)

JESUS said to Satan:

Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Matthew 4:10)

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

Peter also knew:

And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped [him]. (Acts 10:25)

But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. (Acts 10:26)

However, this “Captain of the LORD's Host” instead tells Joshua to “loose thy shoes from off thy foot; for the place whereupon thou standest [is] holy.” and accepts the worship of Joshua, who like Moses bowed his face to the ground.

In the other passage the “Angel of the LORD” appears “in the midst of a burning bush”, but then it is said that it is “GOD” who calls out from “the midst of the burning bush” and says to Moses, “put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place where upon thou standest [is] holy ground”, and then Moses “hid his face”, for he “was afraid to look upon GOD” and it was “GOD” who was “come down to deliver” Israel.

It is clear that the “Angel of the LORD” [this is not a Created being, but CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF, GOD the SON, the HIGHEST MESSENGER, the SENT OF THE FATHER], also called the “Captain of the LORD's Host” is actually MICHAEL/JESUS…
 
It is clear that the “Angel of the LORD”[this is not a Created being, but CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF, GOD the SON, the HIGHEST MESSENGER, the SENT OF THE FATHER], also called the “Captain [Ruler] of the LORD's Host” is actually MICHAEL/JESUS, yet what about as John says, “No man has seen GOD at any time”, as some like to quote:

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. (John 1:18)No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. (1 John 4:12)

However, if “no man has seen GOD at any time” then who did the Patriarch's see?:

And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham. (Genesis 17:22)

And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I [am] the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I [am] with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake. (Genesis 26:24)

And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I [am] the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; (Genesis 28:13)

And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. (Genesis 32:30)

Moreover he said, I [am] the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. (Exodus 3:6)

That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. (Exodus 4:5)

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. (Exodus 6:3)

And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. (Exodus 33:11)

And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, (Deuteronomy 34:10)

And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God. (Judges 13:22)

Whom they all saw was MICHAEL/JESUS, for later, John clarifies that “no man has seen the FATHER, save he which is of God”:

Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. (John 6:46)

Captain: Hebrew: “sar” “שר”; meaning: “Prince”, “Ruler”, “Chief”, “Leader”, “Captain”, “Ruler of Rulers”[Strong's Concordance] [Gesenius's Lexicon].

So, the definition of “Captain of the LORD's Host” can also mean “Prince of the LORD's Host”, “Ruler of the LORD's Host” and “Ruler of Rulers of the LORD's Host”.

This is the perfect description of Michael/JESUS as has already been seen, “…Michael, one of the chief princes…”(Daniel 10:13), “…Michael your prince…”(Daniel 10:21), and “…Michael… the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people…”(Daniel 12:1). This word “Captain” is the exact same word used in the “Great Prince”, “Prince of Peace”, “Prince of the Host” and “Prince of Princes”.

Who can the Highest Commander, Prince of the Host, Chief of the “Angels”, who commands them, be but Michael/JESUS, as has already been seen, “…Michael and his angels fought against the dragon…”(Revelation 12:7).

Who is it that the “Armies of Heaven”follow and are commanded by, and who is it that fights and makes war? Michael/JESUS:

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. (Revelation 19:11)

His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. (Revelation 19:12)

And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. (Revelation 19:13)

And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (Revelation 19:14)

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Revelation 19:15)

And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. (Revelation 19:16)

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. (Revelation 19:19).

MICHAEL/JESUS and HIS armies…

Let us now consider another comparison:

“The Angel of GOD” before Israel [the peoples] in the Pillar of Cloud and Pillar of Fire compared to “the LORD” before Israel [the peoples] in the Pillar of Cloud and Pillar of Fire:
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. (Exodus 23:20)Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name [is] in him. (Exodus 23:21)

But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. (Exodus 23:22)

For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. (Exodus 23:23)

But God led the people about, [through] the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt. (Exodus 13:18)

And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: (Exodus 13:21)

And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: (Exodus 14:19)

And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians, (Exodus 14:24)

And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood [at] the door of the tabernacle, and [the LORD] talked with Moses. (Exodus 33:9)

The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it. Isaiah 19:1

And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand [at] the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man [in] his tent door. (Exodus 33:10)

[Notice that word, “worshipped” in direct association with the “cloudy pillar”]

And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. (Exodus 33:11)

And he said, My presence shall go [with thee], and I will give thee rest. (Exodus 33:14)[compare also to “Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” Matthew 11:28; and “Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.” Matthew 28:20]

[Please notice the word “My presence”, and go back untoGenesis 3:8, 4:16and see also 1 Chronicles 16:33; Psalms 68:2, etc, many times in Psalms]

And he said unto him, If thy presence go not [with me], carry us not up hence. Exodus 33:15

The earth shook, the heavens also dropped at the presence of God: [even] Sinai itself [was moved] at the presence of God, the God of Israel. Psalms 68:8

Say unto them, Whosoever [he be] of all your seed among your generations, that goeth unto the holy things, which the children of Israel hallow unto the LORD, having his uncleanness upon him, that soul shall be cut off from my presence: I [am] the LORD. Leviticus 22:3

Also compare the Great Controversy again in the Book of Job, between CHRIST/MICHAEL[who is the “presence of GOD”, “the Angel of HIS presence”] and Satan/Dragon:

And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath [is] in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. Job 1:2

So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. Job 2:7

…and so let us consider further comparisons, and see this “Angel Of His [the Father's] Presence”…

[GeneBalthrop]

Awhn……………I never seen so many words calling Jesus Michael the Arch angel in my life, and yet Not so much as one scripture that says it  now you talking about forcing the text to say what in fact it does not say, i have never seen that any better done then you have here brother.

peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………….gene

[Anonymous]

“The Angel Of his Presence…”

In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. Isaiah 63:9

Who is the SAVIOUR, REDEEMER, who bare them and us?

Who is “afflicted” for us and them?

JESUS CHRIST, the very “presence of GOD” the “Angel [MESSENGER] of HIS [the FATHER's] presence”.

[“If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”John 14:7 and “Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?”John 14:9][That is has seen and understands the Character of the Father]Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. Isaiah 53:4

And in the wilderness, where thou hast seen how that the LORD thy God bare thee, as a man doth bear his son, in all the way that ye went, until ye came into this place. (Deuteronomy 1:31)

And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy [place] within the vail before the mercy seat, which [is] upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. (Leviticus 16:2)

And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood [in] the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. (Numbers 12:5)

And they will tell [it] to the inhabitants of this land: [for] they have heard that thou LORD [art] among this people, that thou LORD art seen face to face, and [that] thy cloud standeth over them, and [that] thou goest before them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night. (Numbers 14:14)

The LORD your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes; (Deuteronomy 1:30)[recompare to Joshua and “Captain of the Host of the LORD” Joshua 5:14]

Yet in this thing ye did not believe the LORD your God, (Deuteronomy 1:32)

Who went in the way before you, to search you out a place to pitch your tents [in], in fire by night, to shew you by what way ye should go, and in a cloud by day. (Deuteronomy 1:33)

For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee. (Deuteronomy 23:14)

And the LORD appeared in the tabernacle in a pillar of a cloud: and the pillar of the cloud stood over the door of the tabernacle. (Deuteronomy 31:15)

Moreover thou leddest them in the day by a cloudy pillar; and in the night by a pillar of fire, to give them light in the way wherein they should go. (Nehemiah 9:12)

Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments: (Nehemiah 9:13)

Yet thou in thy manifold mercies forsookest them not in the wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day, to lead them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them light, and the way wherein they should go. (Nehemiah 9:19)

He spake unto them in the cloudy pillar: they kept his testimonies, and the ordinance [that] he gave them. (Psalms 99:7)

One passage says that the “Angel of the GOD” went before Israel in the Pillar of a Cloud by Day and in the Pillar of Fire by Night, while the other passage says that the “LORD” did so, while another says that “thou LORD art seen face to face”.

Also notice, “he will not pardon your transgressions…”(Exodus 23:21).

The passage does not say “he cannot pardon your transgressions” but says, “he will not pardon”.

Who is the only one able to pardon transgressions? GOD alone.

Also notice, “…my name [is] in him. …”(Exodus 23:21). This is somewhat reminiscent of John:

I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. (John 5:43)

…and Hebrews:

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. (Hebrews 1:4)

…and “…shall call his name Immanuel“ [Isaiah 7:14]

…and “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” Matthew 1:23[see also Psalms 46:7,11, “The LORD of Hosts [is] with us“]

…and “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Matthew 28:19, etc.

Who was it at Mt. Sinai in that burning bush? Michael/JESUS:

And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites. (Exodus 3:8)

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (Exodus 3:14)

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this [is] my name for ever, and this [is] my memorial unto all generations. (Exodus 3:15)

That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. (Exodus 4:5)

Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore [they shall know] in that day that I [am] he that doth speak: behold, [it is] I. (Isaiah 52:6)

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw [it], and was glad. (John 8:56)

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. (John 8:58) [AND MANY MORE TEXTS UPON REQUEST]
 
“The Angel of the LORD”, whose name is “Wonderful” and “CHRIST JESUS”, whose name is “Wonderful”:

“And the angel of the LORD appeared…” Judges 13:3;p

“…A man of God came unto me, and his countenance [was] like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible: but I asked him not whence he [was], neither told he me his name:” Judges 13:6;p

“Then Manoah intreated the LORD, and said, O my Lord, let the man of God which thou didst send come again unto us, and teach us…” Judges 13:8;p

“And God hearkened to the voice of Manoah; and the angel of God came again unto the woman…” Judges 13:9;p

“And the angel of the LORD …” Judges 13:13;p

“And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD…”. Judges 13:15;p

“And the angel of the LORD … offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he [was] an angel of the LORD.” Judges 13:16;p

“And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, What [is] thy name,…”Judges 13:17;p

And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it [is] secret [“wonderful”, “extraordinary”, “marvellous”; see Strong's Concordance]? Judges 13:18

“…the angel of the LORD ascended in t
he flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on [it], and fell on their faces to the ground.” Judges 13:20;p

But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he [was] an angel of the LORD. Judges 13:21

“…We shall surely die, because we have seen God.” Judges 13:22;p

But his wife said unto him, If the LORD were pleased to kill us, he would not have received a burnt offering and a meat offering at our hands, neither would he have shewed us all these [things], nor would as at this time have told us [such things] as these. Judges 13:23

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

Wonderful: Hebrew: “pele'” “פלא”; meaning: “wonderful”, “marvel”, “extraordinary”; from Hebrew: “pala'” “פלא”; meaning: “wonderful”, “marvellous”, “extraordinary” [Strong's Concordance] [Gesenius's Lexicon].

Wonderful: Hebrew: “pil'iy” “פלאי”; meaning: “wonderful”, “extraordinary”, “incomprehensible”; from Hebrew: “pala'” “פלא”; meaning: “wonderful”, “marvellous”, “extraordinary”[Strong's Concordance] [Gesenius's Lexicon].

In one, the “Angel of the LORD” appears and when asked his name, he says “it [is] secret”[ “wonderful”, “marvellous”, “extraordinary”] and it is said of CHRIST JESUS that HIS name will be called “Wonderful”.

Both words used mean the same thing and are from the same root. Manoah said that he and his wife had seen “GOD”, speaking of the “Angel of the LORD”.

MICHAEL/JESUS has a more excellent name as already seen, “…a more excellent name…”Hebrews 1:4.

Also compare to: And Jacob asked [him], and said, Tell [me], I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore [is] it [that] thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.Genesis 32:29

Jacob asks the very same question as Manoah [Judges 13:7-8].

“The Angel of HIS Presence” is called the one who, in his pity and love, saves and redeems from all evil and GOD is the Only Saviour and Redeemer and JESUS is called the Saviour and Redeemer:

And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. Genesis 28:12

And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I [am] the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; Genesis 28:13

Jesus Christ is Jacob's Ladder:

And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. John 1:51

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended?…who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell? Proverbs 30:40

“…God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,” Genesis 48:3;p

“The Angel which redeemed me from all evil…” Genesis 48:16;p

For he said, Surely they [are] my people, children [that] will not lie: so he was their Saviour. (Isaiah 63:8)

In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. Isaiah 63:9

“…I [am] the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm…” Exodus 6:6;p

“…like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name… which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, [from] the nations and their gods?” 2 Samuel 7:23;p

“…people Israel, whom God went to redeem [to be] his own people…” 1 Chronicles 17:21;p

“…O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.” Psalms 19:14;p

Redeem Israel, O God, out of all his troubles. Psalms 25:22

And they remembered that God [was] their rock, and the high God their redeemer. Psalms 78:35

And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. Psalms 130:8

“…Lo, this [is] our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this [is] the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.” Isaiah 25:9;p

“…I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.” Isaiah 41:14;p

I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour. Isaiah 43:11

“…the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel…” Isaiah 43:14;p

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God. Isaiah 44:6

“…the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” Isaiah 44:24;p

“…I the LORD? and [there is] no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; [there is] none beside me.” Isaiah 45:21;p

[As for] our redeemer, the LORD of hosts [is] his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 47:4

“…the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I [am] the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way [that] thou shouldest go. Isaiah 48:17

“…the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, [and] his Holy One … the LORD that is faithful, [and] the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.” Isaiah 49:7;p

“…I the LORD [am] thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.” Isaiah 49:26;p

For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Isaiah 54:5

[CHRIST JESUS is the Husband, the Bridegroom]“…I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.” Isaiah 54:8;p … see also passages on the Redeemer and Saviour:

Isaiah 59:20, 60:16, 63:16

Jeremiah 15:20,21, 50:34

John 20:28

Acts 5:31, 13:12

Galatians 4:5

Philippians 3:20

1 Timothy 1:1

2 Timothy 1:10

Titus 1:4, 2:13,14, 3:6

2 Peter 1:1,11, 2:20, 3:18

In one passage the “Angel of HIS Presence” saves and redeems from “all evil”[Genesis 48:16] in HIS love and pity, yet also that only GOD is the Saviour and Redeemer.

Still, the LORD is the Saviour and Redeemer and further, that it is CHRIST JESUS who is the Saviour and Redeemer from all iniquity and evil.

MICHAEL is CHRIST JESUS, the very “presence of GOD”, the HIGHEST MESSENGER of the FATHER's Love, and the Love of GOD.

It is said of the “Angel”, “In all their affliction he was afflicted …he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.”Isaiah 63:9

Who is it that is afflicted for us, bears and carries us? CHRIST JESUS:

“… the LORD thy God bare thee…” Deuteronomy 1:31;p

And [even] to [your] old age I [am] he; and [even] to hoar hairs will I carry [you]: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver [you]. Isaiah 46:4

But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:5

… he shall bear their iniquities. Isaiah 53:11;p

… so he was their Saviour. Isaiah 63:8;p

MICHAEL[WHO IS LIKE UNTO GOD?] What is HIS name? How Shall We Call HIM?

“…The LORD, The God of hosts, [is] his name … Wonderful … The King Of Glory … IMMANUEL…”

Who [is] a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression … Micah 7:18;p

Let us now consider the Rebuking…

[Anonymous]

“The LORD rebuke thee.”

MICHAEL rebukes satan[the accuser] saying, “the LORD rebuke thee.”

Both “the Angel of the LORD”[JESUS CHRIST/MICAHEL] and the “LORD” rebukes Satan saying, “the LORD rebuke thee.”

The Great Controversy between CHRIST/MICHAEL and satan here with Joshua the Highpriest:

And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. (Zechariah 3:1)

And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: [is] not this a brand plucked out of the fire? (Zechariah 3:2)

Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel. (Zechariah 3:3)

And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment. (Zechariah 3:4)

And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the LORD stood by. (Zechariah 3:5)

The “LORD said unto Satan…” “…the LORD rebuke thee…”. Satan was there to “resist him”[CHRIST JESUS] [for this was none other than the “LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem”] for what HE was about to do for Joshua the Highpriest who was “clothed with filthy garments” and had “iniquity”.

The “filthy garments” represented the unrighteousness of Joshua and his “iniquity”[sin], also his character and works [Isaiah 64:6]. Clothing is scripture is a symbol of the character. White raiment is a symbol of CHRIST's spotless character, HIS perfect righteousness. Notice that this “angel” and “angel of the LORD” that Joshua the Highpriest stands before is the one who “have caused thine iniquity to pass from” him. Who alone can forgive sin? [Mark 2:7; Luke 5:21; Psalms 51:4; etc] This is no mere being before Joshua, but it is CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF, and satan stands against them, accusing of the “iniquity” of the Highpriest Joshua.

It is the same with Moses…

MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL[JESUS CHRIST, the RESURRECTION and the LIFE], also says the same when contending with Satan over the body of Moses.

MICHAEL/CHRIST came to resurrect Moses and to take him from the clutches of the grave, death and satan. [Romans 5:14]

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. (Jude 1:9)

In Zechariah it says the “LORD” rebukes Satan, who is resisting HIM, by saying, “the LORD rebuke thee” and in Jude, concerning MICHAEL/JESUS who is contending with a resisting Satan, says, “the LORD rebuke thee.”

Notice the “Angel” before Joshua the High Priest says, “Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with a change of raiment.”. JESUS gives us HIS righteousness and takes away our iniquity:

Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities. (Psalms 51:9)

And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. (Psalms 130:8)

Let thy priests be clothed with righteousness; and let thy saints shout for joy. (Psalms 132:9)

I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh [himself] with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth [herself] with her jewels. (Isaiah 61:10)

And I will cleanse them from all their iniquity, whereby they have sinned against me; and I will pardon all their iniquities, whereby they have sinned, and whereby they have transgress
ed against me. (Jeremiah 33:8)

Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause [you] to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded. (Ezekiel 36:33)

He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. (Micah 7:19)

[Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. (Romans 4:7)

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. (Hebrews 8:12)

And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (Hebrews 10:17)

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. (Revelation 3:5)

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. (Revelation 3:18)

And round about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. (Revelation 4:4)

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; (Revelation 7:9)

And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (Revelation 19:14)

Please, also notice that MICHAEL would not bring against Satan, even at this time, a “railing accusation”:

Railing: Greek: “blasphēmia” “βλασφημία”; meaning: “slander”, “impious speech”, “blasphemy” from Greek: “blasphēmos” “βλάσφημος”; meaning: “speaking evil”, “reproachful speech”, “slanderous accusation”[Strong's Concordance] [Thayer's Lexicon].

Since MICHAEL is JESUS, HE would not even sin before HIS incarnation by speaking evil or blaspheming.

Also, who is the only one with the power to Resurrect the Dead?

We see that Moses was raised from the Dead and the Grave by MICHAEL [whose voice can raise the dead, 1 Thessalonians 4:16]? We have only Turn to the Gospels to see further evidence:

And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. (Matthew 17:3)[Elijah never died, for he was translated alive and taken up into Heaven]

And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. (Mark 9:4)

-take careful note that this appearance of Moses and Elijah was no mere dream or vision, but truly happened –

But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him. Luke 9:32

And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean. (Mark 9:10)

“Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses…” (Romans 5:14;p), for we see that Christ Jesus/Michael Raised Moses and was the first to be so raised in such a fashion and taken to heaven, for Enoch and Elijah never died, while others were raised and died again, awaiting their resurrection still in sleep….

[There is an awesome typology given here [Moses, Elijah and Jesus, all glorified] that Peter also addresses in His epistles, which can be discussed later]

Let us look now at the “man” [who wrestles with Jacob] who gives a new name and compare to ALMIGHTY GOD who gives a new name:

And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. (Genesis 32:24)

And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. (Genesis 32:25)

And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh.
And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. (Genesis 32:26)

And he said unto him, What [is] thy name? And he said, Jacob. (Genesis 32:27)

And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. (Genesis 32:28)

And Jacob asked [him], and said, Tell [me], I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore [is] it [that] thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. (Genesis 32:29)

And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. (Genesis 32:30)

Jacob says unto the “man”, “Tell [me], I pray thee, thy name.”. See also Manoah, etal., who asked the same of CHRIST JESUS that came down unto them.

Jacob declares, “I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” This was no ordinary being, or “man”, this was GOD ALMIGHTY – JESUS CHRIST, the very “angel” “of the LORD” [SON of the FATHER].

“And God appeared unto Jacob again … blessed him.” (Genesis 35:9;p)

And God said unto him, Thy name [is] Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. (Genesis 35:10)

“And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply…” (Genesis 35:11;p)

[Notice, “fruitful and multiply”, compare to Genesis and Abraham, etc]

And God went up from him in the place where he talked with him. (Genesis 35:13)

“…by his strength he had power with God:” (Hosea 12:3;p)

Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him [in] Bethel, and there he spake with us; (Hosea 12:4)

Even the LORD God of hosts; the LORD [is] his memorial. (Hosea 12:5)

“…the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I [am] the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.” (Genesis 17:1;p)

And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. (Genesis 17:2)

And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, (Genesis 17:3)

“Neither … called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham…” (Genesis 17:5;p)

“And God said unto Abraham … thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah [shall] her name [be].” (Genesis 17:15;p)

And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham. (Genesis 17:22)

“… the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram … gavest him the name of Abraham;” (Nehemiah 9:7;p)

“…thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.” (Isaiah 62:2;p)

Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. (Isaiah 62:4)

“And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona…” (Matthew 16:17;p)

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter…” (Matthew 16:18;p)

“…To him that overcometh will I give … will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it].” (Revelation 2:17;p)

“…I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and my new name.” (Revelation 3:12;p)

A “man” wrestles with Jacob and gives him a new name, “Israel”. ALMIGHTY GOD gives the new name to Abram and Sarai, being “Abraham and Sarah”. JESUS gives a new name to Simon, “Peter”. GOD went up from them and Jacob said he had seen GOD face to face. Saul meets CHRIST JESUS, now called “Paul”, after the road to Damascus event:

Then Saul, (who also [is called] Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, (Acts 13:9)
 
Christ/Michael is that messenger, of the Father…

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. Malachi 3:1

Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; Hebrews 3:1

In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. Isaiah 63:9
 
Let us now look at “The Angel of the LORD” and “The Angel of GOD” passages and compare further:

“And the angel of the LORD found her …” (Genesis 16:7;p)[asking questions, as Jesus/God does throughout]

And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go?… (Genesis 16:8;p)

“And the angel of the LORD said unto her…”. (Genesis 16:9;p)

And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly… (Genesis 16:10;p)

And the angel of the LORD said unto her, … the LORD hath heard thy affliction. (Genesis 16:11;p)

And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me? (Genesis 16:13)

… well was called Beerlahairoi… (Genesis 16:14;p)Beerlahairoi: Hebrew: “Bĕ'er la-Chay Ro'iy” “בארלחיראי”; meaning: “well of the Living One seeing me”[Strong's Concordance] or “well of the life of vision”[Gesenius's Lexicon].

And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he [is]. (Genesis 21:17)

“…I will make him a great nation.” (Genesis 21:18;p)

And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here [am] I. (Genesis 22:11)

[Compare to, “Jacob, Jacob…”[Genesis 46:2]

and “Moses, Moses…”[Exodus 3:4]

and “Simon, Simon…”[Luke 22:31]

and “Martha, Martha…”[Luke 10:41]

and “Saul, Saul…”[Acts 9:4, 22:7, 26:14]

and “My God, My God…”[Psalms 22:1; Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34]]

“…I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only [son] from me.” (Genesis 22:12;p)

And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said [to] this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. (Genesis 22:14)

And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, (Genesis 22:15)

And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD… (Genesis 22:16;p)

“…I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed …” (Genesis 22:17;p)

“…thou hast obeyed my voice.” (Genesis 22:18;p)

Jehovahjireh: Hebrew: “Yĕhovah yireh” “יהוהיראה”; meaning: “YHVH sees”[Strong's Concordance].

And the angel of God spake … (Genesis 31:11;p)

“…I have seen all that Laban doeth…” (Genesis 31:12;p)

I [am] the God of Bethel, where thou anointedst the pillar, [and] … vowedst a vow unto me: … (Genesis 31:13;p)

And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me… (Genesis 28:20;p)

…then shall the LORD be my God: (Genesis 28:21;p)

And this stone … shall be God's house: and … I will surely give the tenth unto thee. (Genesis 28:22;p)

And God came unto Balaam at night, … but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do. (Numbers 22:20;p)

And God's anger was kindled … and the angel of the LORD stood in the way for an adversary against him… (Numbers 22:22;p)

And the ass saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand… (Numbers 22:23;p)

But the angel of the LORD stood in a path of the vineyards… (Numbers 22:24;p)

And when the ass saw the angel of the LORD… (Numbers 22:25;p)

And the angel of the LORD went further, and stood in a narrow place, where [was] no way to turn either to the right hand or to the left. (Numbers 22:26)

And when the ass saw the angel of the LORD… (Numbers 22:27;p)

And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass… (Numbers 22:28;p)

Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face. (Numbers 22:31)

And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because [thy] way is perverse before me: (Numbers 22:32) [Notice, “perverse before me”]

And the ass saw me, …, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive. (Numbers 22:33;p)

And Balaam said unto the angel of the LORD, I have sinned; for I knew not that thou stoodest in the way against me: now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get me back again. (Numbers 22:34)

And the angel of the LORD said unto Balaam, Go with the men: but only the word that I shall speak unto thee, that thou shalt speak. So Balaam went with the princes of Balak. (Numbers 22:35) [speaking only the words of the LORD, neither adding, neither subtracting]

And Balaam said unto Balak… the word that God putteth in my mouth, that shall I speak. (Numbers 22:38;p)

And God met Balaam… (Numbers 23:4;p)

And the LORD put a word in Balaam's mouth,… (Numbers 23:5;p)

… Must I not take heed to speak that which the LORD hath put in my mouth? (Numbers 23:12;p)

…while I meet [the LORD] yonder. (Numbers 23:15;p)

And the LORD met Balaam, and put a word in his mouth,…(Numbers 23:16;p)

But Balaam answered… All that the LORD speaketh, that I must do? (Numbers 23:26;p)

And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you. (Judges 2:1)

…but ye have not obeyed my voice:… (Judges 2:2;p)

… I will not drive them out from before you; … (Judges 2:3;p)

…the angel of the LORD spake these words … (Judges 2:4;p)

“…they sacrificed there unto the LORD.” (Judges 2:5;p)

“And there came an angel of the LORD…” (Judges 6:11;p)

And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him, and said unto him, The LORD [is] with thee, thou mighty man of valour. (Judges 6:12)

And Gideon said unto him, Oh my Lord, if the LORD be with us, … saying, Did not the LORD bring us up from Egypt? but now the LORD … (Judges 6:13;p)

And the LORD looked upon him, … have not I sent thee? (Judges 6:14;p)

…Oh my Lord, … (Judges 6:15;p)

And the LORD said unto him, Surely I will be with thee,… (Judges 6:16;p)

…If now I have found grace in thy sight, then shew me a sign that thou talkest with me. (Judges 6:17;p)

Depart not hence, I pray thee, until I come unto thee, and bring forth my present, and set [it] before thee… (Judges 6:18;p)

And Gideon went in… and presented [it]. (Judges 6:19;p)

And the angel of God said unto him, Take … and lay [them] upon this rock, and pour out the broth… (Judges 6:20;p)

Then the angel of the LORD put forth the end of the staff … consumed the flesh and the unleavened cakes. Then the angel of the LORD departed out of his sight. (Judges 6:21;p) [the gift sacrifice was accepted, even in a burnt offering]

“…an angel of the LORD, Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen an angel of the LORD face to face.” (Judges 6:22;p)

And the LORD said unto him, Peace [be] unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die. (Judges 6:23)

“Then Gideon built an altar there unto the LORD, and called it Jehovahshalom…” (Judges 6:24;p)

Jehovahshalom: Hebrew: “Yĕhavah shalowm” “יהוהשלום”; meaning: “YHVH is peace”[Strong's Concordance].

Many texts say the “Angel of the LORD” and “Angel of GOD” which are seen speaking in the first person, “I will bless…”, “I will multiply…”, “I will be with thee…”, “Have I not sent thee?”, “Ye have not obeyed my voice…”, “By myself I have sworn…”, “I will make him a great nation…” and are always connected directly with GOD HIMSELF:

…of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, … (Acts 3:25;p).

These are JESUS CHRIST/MICHAEL.

So, let us consider this word “angel” a bit, and head off a few questions…

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