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Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,09:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:28) Hi BD,
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
You too can follow him into sonship.
Let me ask you NickDid God Marry Mary? Did God fornicate? exactly how did God have a son?
Hi BD:Quote 1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You did not answer the question.
Did God marry Mary? Did God fornicate with Mary?
In what way did God have offspring?
God does not have children like us
Hi BD:This has nothing to do with a sexual act. It was an act of love by God so that you and I could be saved.
How is it that you want to pick and choose the scriptures that you want to quote out of the bible?
ThIs is what the scripture states:
Quote Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Quote Jhn 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe. Jhn 1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi BD,
Is Jesus the Son of God spoken of in Ps 2 and Prov30?Is he the great prophet spoken of by Moses and quoted in Acts 3?
Where is your leader?
Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,13:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,09:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:28) Hi BD,
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
You too can follow him into sonship.
Let me ask you NickDid God Marry Mary? Did God fornicate? exactly how did God have a son?
Hi BD:Quote 1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You did not answer the question.
Did God marry Mary? Did God fornicate with Mary?
In what way did God have offspring?
God does not have children like us
Hi BD:This has nothing to do with a sexual act. It was an act of love by God so that you and I could be saved.
How is it that you want to pick and choose the scriptures that you want to quote out of the bible?
ThIs is what the scripture states:
Quote Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Quote Jhn 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe. Jhn 1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Love in Christ,
Marty
If the act was not sexual then the act was not such that would create offspring. Jesus was put in the womb of Mary by His command. God is not a man to have children everything is His creation and all are His servants.Remember in Luke it says “He will be called” Son of The Most High not that He is The Son of The Most High.
Far be it for God to have a son:
(10) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:43) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,13:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,09:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:28) Hi BD,
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
You too can follow him into sonship.
Let me ask you NickDid God Marry Mary? Did God fornicate? exactly how did God have a son?
Hi BD:Quote 1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You did not answer the question.
Did God marry Mary? Did God fornicate with Mary?
In what way did God have offspring?
God does not have children like us
Hi BD:This has nothing to do with a sexual act. It was an act of love by God so that you and I could be saved.
How is it that you want to pick and choose the scriptures that you want to quote out of the bible?
ThIs is what the scripture states:
Quote Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Quote Jhn 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe. Jhn 1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Love in Christ,
Marty
If the act was not sexual then the act was not such that would create offspring. Jesus was put in the womb of Mary by His command. God is not a man to have children everything is His creation and all are His servants.Remember in Luke it says “He will be called” Son of The Most High not that He is The Son of The Most High.
Far be it for God to have a son:
(10) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)
Hi BD:Well, God said:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. So, then is God lying?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 26 2009,14:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:43) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,13:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,09:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:28) Hi BD,
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
You too can follow him into sonship.
Let me ask you NickDid God Marry Mary? Did God fornicate? exactly how did God have a son?
Hi BD:Quote 1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You did not answer the question.
Did God marry Mary? Did God fornicate with Mary?
In what way did God have offspring?
God does not have children like us
Hi BD:This has nothing to do with a sexual act. It was an act of love by God so that you and I could be saved.
How is it that you want to pick and choose the scriptures that you want to quote out of the bible?
ThIs is what the scripture states:
Quote Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Quote Jhn 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe. Jhn 1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Love in Christ,
Marty
If the act was not sexual then the act was not such that would create offspring. Jesus was put in the womb of Mary by His command. God is not a man to have children everything is His creation and all are His servants.Remember in Luke it says “He will be called” Son of The Most High not that He is The Son of The Most High.
Far be it for God to have a son:
(10) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)
Hi BD:Well, God said:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. So, then is God lying?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,I am sorry if I am confusing you, but I have already stated that those who find God through Jesus will be saved.
The issue is you must let Jesus guide you to know “The Father”
Your ultimate destiny lies with God Almighty and you must worship God Almighty. If you make partners with God Almighty you will perish so do not call Christ “God” and do not believe that God needs partners to execute His will.
I love Jesus and honor him as Christ but if I call him my God I am a liar because The Sovereign God is My Creator.
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,15:04) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,14:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:43) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,13:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,09:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:28) Hi BD,
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
You too can follow him into sonship.
Let me ask you NickDid God Marry Mary? Did God fornicate? exactly how did God have a son?
Hi BD:Quote 1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You did not answer the question.
Did God marry Mary? Did God fornicate with Mary?
In what way did God have offspring?
God does not have children like us
Hi BD:This has nothing to do with a sexual act. It was an act of love by God so that you and I could be saved.
How is it that you want to pick and choose the scriptures that you want to quote out of the bible?
ThIs is what the scripture states:
Quote Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Quote Jhn 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe. Jhn 1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Love in Christ,
Marty
If the act was not sexual then the act was not such that would create offspring. Jesus was put in the womb of Mary by His command. God is not a man to have children everything is His creation and all are His servants.Remember in Luke it says “He will be called” Son of The Most High not that He is The Son of The Most High.
Far be it for God to have a son:
(10) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)
Hi BD:Well, God said:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. So, then is God lying?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,I am sorry if I am confusing you, but I have already stated that those who find God through Jesus will be saved.
The issue is you must let Jesus guide you to know “The Father”
Your ultimate destiny lies with God Almighty and you must worship God Almighty. If you make partners with God Almighty you will perish so do not call Christ “God” and do not believe that God needs partners to execute His will.
I love Jesus and honor him as Christ but if I call him my God I am a liar because The Sovereign God is My Creator.
Hi BD:I don't call Jesus God, but I am subjected to God through him, and that is what is meant by confessing him as Lord.
Without the blood that was shed in our behalf, our sins cannot be washed away and therefore, we cannot have a personal relationship with God any other way.
This is what God has done for us because of His goodness, and it is because His goodness that the gospel is preached to every creature hoping that men will believe the truth and come to Him with a repentant heart through the provision that he has made.
But he has given men the freedom to choose.
God has shown you His love for you by providing the sacrifice for your sins in the person of His Son and His Christ, and I have shown you my love by telling you what He has said.
It is your choice as to whether or not you will believe the truth.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 26 2009,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,15:04) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,14:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:43) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,13:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,09:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:28) Hi BD,
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
You too can follow him into sonship.
Let me ask you NickDid God Marry Mary? Did God fornicate? exactly how did God have a son?
Hi BD:Quote 1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You did not answer the question.
Did God marry Mary? Did God fornicate with Mary?
In what way did God have offspring?
God does not have children like us
Hi BD:This has nothing to do with a sexual act. It was an act of love by God so that you and I could be saved.
How is it that you want to pick and choose the scriptures that you want to quote out of the bible?
ThIs is what the scripture states:
Quote Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Quote Jhn 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe. Jhn 1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Love in Christ,
Marty
If the act was not sexual then the act was not such that would create offspring. Jesus was put in the womb of Mary by His command. God is not a man to have children everything is His creation and all are His servants.Remember in Luke it says “He will be called” Son of The Most High not that He is The Son of The Most High.
Far be it for God to have a son:
(10) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)
Hi BD:Well, God said:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. So, then is God lying?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,I am sorry if I am confusing you, but I have already stated that those who find God through Jesus will be saved.
The issue is you must let Jesus guide you to know “The Father”
Your ultimate destiny lies with God Almighty and you must worship God Almighty. If you make partners with God Almighty you will perish so do not call Christ “God” and do not believe that God needs partners to execute His will.
I love Jesus and honor him as Christ but if I call him my God I am a liar because The Sovereign God is My Creato
r.
Hi BD:I don't call Jesus God, but I am subjected to God through him, and that is what is meant by confessing him as Lord.
Without the blood that was shed in our behalf, our sins cannot be washed away and therefore, we cannot have a personal relationship with God any other way.
This is what God has done for us because of His goodness, and it is because His goodness that the gospel is preached to every creature hoping that men will believe the truth and come to Him with a repentant heart through the provision that he has made.
But he has given men the freedom to choose.
God has shown you His love for you by providing the sacrifice for your sins in the person of His Son and His Christ, and I have shown you my love by telling you what He has said.
It is your choice as to whether or not you will believe the truth.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So Jesus was Sacrificed by His Father?Hi BD,
Men sacrificed him.
He offered himself as a sacrifice for our sin.
But you would despise that offer made on your behalf too?BD,
Hebrews 7:27
Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.Hebrews 10:12
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,16:08) Hi BD,
Men sacrificed him.
He offered himself as a sacrifice for our sin.
But you would despise that offer made on your behalf too?
Did Men sacrifice him? Was that what they were doing, offering him up to God?hi BD,
As unknowing servants of satan they fulfilled prophecy and sacrificed the Son of God.
The evil powers would never have done so it they had realised the ultimate consequences.
Many more sons filled with the same Spirit of Christ doing the same works till the King returns.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,17:04) hi BD,
As unknowing servants of satan they fulfilled prophecy and sacrificed the Son of God.
The evil powers would never have done so it they had realised the ultimate consequences.
Many more sons filled with the same Spirit of Christ doing the same works till the King returns.
So Judas is a hero?Hi BD,
In his own mind only.
Subtlety of our God.But Jesus asked for forgiveness for those who did not know what they were doing.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,17:07) Hi BD,
In his own mind only.
Subtlety of our God.But Jesus asked for forgiveness for those who did not know what they were doing.
Then that would include everyone.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,21:00) Hi GM,
Inconsistencies,
Interview 4 people who saw a car accident and see how much the accounts differ.The extraordinary consistency is one of the strongest evidences that the Holy spirit wrote it through ignorant fishermen and a taxman.
Men try to judge it with their weak intellects and cannot encompass how each version adds and brings into focus the whole picture.
Hi brother Nick,
You are also talking in human terms. Please I repeat don't blame God for human biases and errors. God never forces anybody but He inspires people. If we don't take everything written in our Bible as literal I think we will be at safer side and we will not misunderstand the writers of the Bible as false.Hi GM,
You expect us to accept God has not cared for His words?
You offer no evidence of tampering but only your inability to align scripture?Wake up.
So brother Nick you want evidence?
If you are really interested please read the books like “Misquoting Jesus” or “The Orthodox corruption of Scriptures” by Bert D. Ehrman. You will realise how the scribes had tampered with the scriptures.Nick………Adam is right, if you have a Library or bookstore where you live, get a copy of the books he listed you can order them through the Internet also . They are quite enlightening, specially “Misquoting Jesus”. BY Bert D. Ehrman
peace and love……………………….gene
Quote (gollamudi @ June 26 2009,23:04) So brother Nick you want evidence?
If you are really interested please read the books like “Misquoting Jesus” or “The Orthodox corruption of Scriptures” by Bert D. Ehrman. You will realise how the scribes had tampered with the scriptures.
The Quran spoke of of the corruption of scriptures 1400 years ago. The Quran was sent to protect the truth and justice of the words of God.(11) But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few – ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #13)
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