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hi all
Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Phil 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Fathersome try to understand God and the son ,this is not helping anyone to be saved.
first no one as seen God so there only one thing we know ;he is spirit, ho yea and he is the most powerful power we know. beside his qualities,we do not know anything.
the son we know God create him the first,but he is not God,he as similarities being the son of God,
all the rest is pure speculation,time consuming that in no way will bring salvation.
Christ came to fulfill to show the father,to teach reconciliation,to show the way,the reasons,
why is it that not more time is spent on those minor things ,rather than salvation and true knowledge who gives live.?
it seems that most in the forum are already saved and have received the holy spirit ,
what in no means i can see or understand trough there posts.Pierre
hi
correction;why is it that more time is spent on those minor things ,rather than salvation and true knowledge who gives live.?
Pierre
Hi,
If we no longer refer to Jesus according to the flesh why do many focus on his possible life before flesh?
The Lord is the Spirit-Jesus CHRISTQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 15 2010,13:46) Hi,
If we no longer refer to Jesus according to the flesh why do many focus on his possible life before flesh?
The Lord is the Spirit-Jesus CHRIST
nicki have no idea what you try to say,
people do not understand Jesus Christ on earth ,how knowing him before in the heaven will help them?
Pierre
Hi T,
It is not written but folks are fascinated by possibilities.
They should seek the Spirit of ChristWell it's important to understand Christs' divinity.
People question these things, Nick, because a lot of false doctrine is forced down our throat by churches and misguided parents.
It's important to come to a point in life where you seek truth for yourself, and when that time comes you need to challenge all claims made and compare them with scripture.
Jesus' preexistence is one of those important topics to understand.
If you simply tell us, Nick, that he didn't preexistence…do you expect us to simply take your word for it?
No, absolutely not…because then we wouldn't be seeking truth for ourselves as commanded in the bible.
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This is why it's important for you to not make claims and condemn without providing scripture or insight on your position.
To simply bark at people to seek the spirit of christ, is foolish talk, and a poor way to do your christian duty.
Everyone here is apparently already a christian, and ALREADY seeking christ…
Isn't that the point of these forums?
—–So your job now, is not to bark ” SEEK CHRIST OR GO TO HELL”
your here to share your insight and back it up scripturally to help everyone here, seeking christ, to find him
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2010,14:12) Hi RM,
His divinity?
He has the same God we do.
Not everyone knows that, we all come from different backgrounds.That is why I keep charging you to share your insight instead of simply stating claims.
Hi RM,
False churches offer polytheism too.
We should listen to Jesus who tried to draw men back to His God.[Jn20]Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2010,14:18) Hi RM,
False churches offer polytheism too.
We should listen to Jesus who tried to draw men back to His God.[Jn20]
Then why don't you be a shepard for Jesus and help teach.You can't teach without information.
Condemning and barking isn't information.
Hi RM,
The scriptures are there for all.
But men do not seek the Spirit to help them read it.
They treat it as an intellectual challenge and makes fools of themselves.Until they do seek the Spirit it is all uselessness.
Hi LU,
Take away the anointing from Jesus 2000 years ago and you find yourself.
The CHRIST anointing made him like God.Hi,
Some are convinced Jesus was a god before he became a man and think he became another god again after he was taken up to heaven.
Our God is one.What is everyone's definition of divinity? Maybe we are all speaking in a different 'language' as far as what constitutes divinity. Since Jesus is said to be god/God and so is the Father, then what are both of them that could be defined as divinity whereas others called god are not?
Quote (Lightenup @ July 17 2010,10:45) What is everyone's definition of divinity? Maybe we are all speaking in a different 'language' as far as what constitutes divinity. Since Jesus is said to be god/God and so is the Father, then what are both of them that could be defined as divinity whereas others called god are not?
Good point!We are partakers of the divine nature. II Peter 1:4. This nature proceeds from God. We have access to live up to the standards that God sets for us.
For instance, God is love, we can love.
God forgives, we can forgive.
God is light, we are to walk in that light.
God is holy, we are to be holy, (it does not say religious, it says holy)
Holy meaning to live at a higher standard than the world around us.
That higher standard is the truth, the scripture, the logos.Maybe this will help.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2010,11:51) Hi B,
The HOLY Spirit makes Holy
Indeed it does.Likewise, we must think the thoughts that please God. Let this mind be in you, which was in Christ Jesus. Philippians 2:5. We need to renew our minds to the standards of truth, Romans 12:1-3. We were not born with truth in our minds. We need to learn the truth from the scriptures and think and live accordingly.
Quote (barley @ July 16 2010,18:58) Quote (Lightenup @ July 17 2010,10:45) What is everyone's definition of divinity? Maybe we are all speaking in a different 'language' as far as what constitutes divinity. Since Jesus is said to be god/God and so is the Father, then what are both of them that could be defined as divinity whereas others called god are not?
Good point!We are partakers of the divine nature. II Peter 1:4. This nature proceeds from God. We have access to live up to the standards that God sets for us.
For instance, God is love, we can love.
God forgives, we can forgive.
God is light, we are to walk in that light.
God is holy, we are to be holy, (it does not say religious, it says holy)
Holy meaning to live at a higher standard than the world around us.
That higher standard is the truth, the scripture, the logos.Maybe this will help.
Hi Barley,
Thanks for your input here. It is a great thing to be partakers of the divine nature and I'm sure that I do not have much of an idea of what that looks like but I'm sure we will be much more like Christ.I think that this verse gives us insight that to be god/God one must be one by nature.
8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.
One's original history would have to be that of a god/God nature in order to be divine, and also have everlasting power.
Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.barely…………You and Nick are both right IMO, the divinity is derived from the divine Spirit of GOD, Jesus acquired divinity when he recieved the Spirit into Him at the Jordan river, there he became a true son of God, He was that day begotten with Holy Spirit the first from Man to acquire that Holy Nature. If people could only understand it was the Christos (anointing) that made the difference in Jesus, not the fact of his berth by Mary, But him being Begotten by GOD with His HOLY SEED, Being deposited in Him that is what made Jesus divine. The voice plainly said this day not some time in the far distant past, as trinitarians and Preexistences believe. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene
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