Islamic Immigration

[Miia]

Thus, “Then I saw… Then I saw…”

[Miia]

And I forgot to mention the reiteration of the book of Revelation, (showing the previous visions in a new way). So, the book is written: unchronologically, reiteratively, figuratively, and past present or future. How can people claim an understanding when they possibly don’t even know this first step? E.g., how does one deduce a future thousand year reign, with two future comings of Christ, without this understanding?

[Ed J]

Ed, the person you mention left, because he felt superior in understanding from what I perceive, and believes himself to be a modern day Noah, …

Hi Miia,

Can you show me how you ascertained this belief of him?

Thanks,
Ed

[Ed J]

… and we don’t need the person you mentioned as Noah, nor “the witness Ed”, …

Hi Miia,

To me you sound a little inconsistent here. Can you explain to me
how these two views of yours are not inconsistent with each other?

I however will be
doing you-tube videos to get the information of my area of study out.

Good on you Ed.

I’m writing fiction (a novel) to get my message out in a hidden sort of way.

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God bless
Ed J

[kerwin]

Miaa,

There are ways of speaking when talking of the past as the present such as when the child is born to the woman even as the dragon sits ready to swallow it. I do not see that in the prophecy of the two witnesses.

[Proclaimer]

Anyone supposedly speaking under the authority of Jesus Christ can do the same thing (be transformed into an angel of light, and preach another gospel).  IMO, the biggest threat to a Christian’s faith are Christians themselves. Muslims are not.

Islam has almost made Christians extinct in large swathes of the Middle East. If it say spread to Europe then it could eliminate Christians there too. That said, yes we are our own worse enemies for sure. We are so divided and follow so much false doctrine and traditions of men that we are practically useless.

It is said that the day will come when those who kill you will think they are doing a service to God. In a way they are doing us a service. Dying for our faith in God is an honor that many have experienced. While I do not wish it on myself or family, or on Europe decades from now, it certainly shows how deep and dedicated your faith in God is if you are willing to lay down your life. No greater love than to lay your life down. And if we do not deny him, he will not deny us.

I think it is naive to think that Islamic immigration to Europe and the UK is going to end well, but God has allowed it to happen. So we as Believers should see it as an opportunity for sure. We can share the gospel with these people. There are many ways to look at this. It is a huge opportunity for evangelism. Think about that. How hard would it be to go to their native lands and preach the gospel. Instead they are coming to our lands.

This could also be seen as a judgement. God often hands people over to their enemies when they are disobedient. Let’s face it, much of the West is corrupt, so maybe this is the way that the West will decline. Islam follows Sharia Law and we are infidels to them. They seek to impose this law on infidels.

It could also be fulfillment of prophecy. If the Islamic Empire is the seventh king and it suffers a deadly wound, then think of the eighth as the revival of that which will last a short time.

[Miia]

Amen t8. I mostly agree with your post above, (apart from the last paragraph – but you did say “could”, so “could” is how I would see it too).

[kerwin]

t8,

I do not see Islam as any less Christians as Trinitarians and it is known Christian Rome persecuted Jewish Christian and other Christians long before Islam appeared on the seen.

The Roman Empire continued to persecute Christianity even after Catholicism became the state religion.

The church has been driven into hiding by the dragon and what you see today is Satan’s kingdom divided and fighting against one another.

[kerwin]

t8,

Much of what you say sounds good.

[Miia]

Hi Ed,
No need to strain at a gnat.

[Miia]

There are ways of speaking when talking of the past as the present such as when the child is born to the woman even as the dragon sits ready to swallow it. I do not see that in the prophecy of the two witnesses.

Hi Kerwin. Are there any rules on visions to say that they are only of the future? (just wondering).

[Miia]

It could also be fulfillment of prophecy. If the Islamic Empire is the seventh king and it suffers a deadly wound, then think of the eighth as the revival of that which will last a short time.

t8, it depends what comes after ISIS (if anything).
8th kingdom/ king could also be the G8 (Group of Eight).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Eight_%28G8%29

I honestly don’t know.

[Miia]

“The Group of Eight (currently known as Group of Seven)…..was originally formed by six leading industrial countries and subsequently extended with two additional members – one of which, Russia, has been suspended“.

Hmm.

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,
No need to strain at a gnat.

Hi Miia,

islam is more than just a small mosquito problem;
they want to kill all Christians, including you.

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God bless
Ed J

[kerwin]

Ed,

No, Islam does not want to kill all Christians. The devout members want to convert them to Islam. Among them is those that will use force to do so and some of those will use terror. Don’t fall for stereotypes.

I read some claim from a website that the Koran said to kill then I looked in the Koran and it did not even say website said. It was a lie told to deceive those that wanted to believe it and so would not test to see if it was true. A quote from that website was posted here by t8 and I answered it and I am sure I mentioned it to you as well. Test what you are taught and what you believe for the deceiver is in the world. Test your heart for God seeks to purify it and make it strong but Satan seeks to make it weak and stone-like.

[kerwin]

Miaa,

Russia Is Ousted From Group of 8 by U.S. and Allies

THE HAGUE — The United States and its closest allies on Monday cast Russia out of the Group of 8 industrialized democracies, their most exclusive club, to punish President Vladimir V. Putin for his lightning annexation of Crimea, while threatening tougher sanctions if he escalates aggression against Ukraine.

What is your point in mentioning this?

[kerwin]

Ed,

You still have not answered me on where the Ottoman Empire fits in the Statue of five parts.

You did mention the rock fell when the new covenant was established but the feet had not even come to be there yet for the Roman Empire would not yet fall for Centuries.

Do you believe the Ottoman Empire is part of the feet or part of the legs like I do?

[Ed J]

Ed,

No, Islam does not want to kill all Christians.

Hi Kerwin,

Muslims that do not follow what their religion teaches are the good ones.
But the problem is: even the good ones will not speak out against islam.
…and yes that is what islam teaches – you better study up a bit more!

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God Bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

I read some claim from a website that the Koran said to kill then I looked in the Koran and it did not even say website said.

Hi Kerwin,

What does you looked in the quran mean?
You read a few suras and didn’t find it?

[Ed J]

Ed,

You still have not answered me on where the Ottoman Empire fits in the Statue of five parts.

You did mention the rock fell when the new covenant was established but the feet had not even come to be there yet for the Roman Empire would not yet fall for Centuries.

Do you believe the Ottoman Empire is part of the feet or part of the legs like I do?

Hi Kerwin,

The Ottoman Empire is not part of King Neb’s statue. The Roman
Empire fell to Christianity (fell to the stone made without hands).

The Ottoman Empire is the seventh Empire as mentioned in Rev 17:9-13.
And the eighth is of the seventh which goeth into perdition.
The bible asserts islam is destined for destruction.

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God bless
Ed J

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