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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,07:07) Hi BD,
Islam is certainly is vain elevating it's words of death above the ones of God's anointed.
Islam does nothing but give Jesus great honour and respect and defends allegations against him.(6) (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)(7) Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59)(11) Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,15:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,07:07) Hi BD,
Islam is certainly is vain elevating it's words of death above the ones of God's anointed.
Islam does nothing but give Jesus great honour and respect and defends allegations against him.(6) (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)(7) Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59)(11) Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172)
BDOf course Islam would like to adopt Jesus in their religion.
But they elevate Mohammad above Jesus.
Jesus never spoke of “Allah” did he?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,07:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,14:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,03:34) Hi BD Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,02:28) What's funny is you call Christians and Jews unbelievers the fact is you cant understand spiritual things. Christians and Jews are not Unbelievers.
What is a Christian? True believers according to the scriptures is found in the NT, those who believe Jesus died for their sins and rose again.Read the book of Acts, that is where Christianity begins and where the term “Christians” was first mentioned.
The quotes you make above is contradictory of what the Qoran teaches.
That is not what the Qoran teaches.
Qur'an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
The unbelievers are those who do not submit to Allah and the Islamic faith.
Qur'an (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.
This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
WJ
WJ,I could point out several Christian atrocities such as the inquisition, salem witch trials…etc but let's just say many of these atrocites were not a matter of defense but of offense to God and man.
Also, You seem to not want to read the Quran with a Pure heart because if you did you would see that the scriptures you point out are defensive
The Quran explains that if they cease fighting you then cease fighting them.
(2) And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #193)
BDAgain you would be missing the point that those events had nothing to do with Biblical Christianity found in the scriptures.
Many attrocities have been committed in the name of God and Jesus which have nothing to do with him.
Read the Acts and find that men gave their lives for preaching Jesus Christ and him crucified without ever raising a sword!
The quote you just quoted from the qoran says to fight untill all believe in Allah, if they cease meaning “surrender” then they quite fighting.
WJ
No WJ in Islam there is no conversion by the sword the Quran says:(1) There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #256)When Islamic conqurers during the Crusades entered a land they allowed everyone to continue practicing their religion unlike Christian crusaders that beheaded many and forced conversion by the sword.
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,15:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,07:07) Hi BD,
Islam is certainly is vain elevating it's words of death above the ones of God's anointed.
Islam does nothing but give Jesus great honour and respect and defends allegations against him.(6) (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)(7) Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59)(11) Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172)
BDOf course Islam would like to adopt Jesus in their religion.
But they elevate Mohammad above Jesus.
Jesus never spoke of “Allah” did he?
WJ
Jesus spoke Aramaic so he called “God” AlahaMuhammad is mentioned in the Quran about 4 times and Jesus is mentioned 29 times
The Quran is not coming from a different God and all the scriptures are the unraveling of the things of God.
This is what the Quran says about Muhammad
(1) muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah. but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)(4) muhammad is the apostle of Allah. and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
( سورة الفتح , Al-Fath, Chapter #48, Verse #29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,07:24) Hi BD,
Very didactic philosophy you offer.
But there is no life in it and the fruit is bad.
How is the fruit bad? Doesn't all life come from God?Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,07:35) Hi BD,
Men have adopted a different father and dance to his rebellious drum.
How is bowing often to THe Lord God creator of all there is, being rebellious?(1) And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #83)(2) It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #177)(10) Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #36)Where is the rebellion?
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,15:22) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,07:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,14:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,03:34) Hi BD Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,02:28) What's funny is you call Christians and Jews unbelievers the fact is you cant understand spiritual things. Christians and Jews are not Unbelievers.
What is a Christian? True believers according to the scriptures is found in the NT, those who believe Jesus died for their sins and rose again.Read the book of Acts, that is where Christianity begins and where the term “Christians” was first mentioned.
The quotes you make above is contradictory of what the Qoran teaches.
That is not what the Qoran teaches.
Qur'an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
The unbelievers are those who do not submit to Allah and the Islamic faith.
Qur'an (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.
This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
WJ
WJ,I could point out several Christian atrocities such as the inquisition, salem witch trials…etc but let's just say many of these atrocites were not a matter of defense but of offense to God and man.
Also, You seem to not want to read the Quran with a Pure heart because if you did you would see that the scriptures you point out are defensive
The Quran explains that if they cease fighting you then cease fighting them.
(2) And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #193)
BDAgain you would be missing the point that those events had nothing to do with Biblical Christianity found in the scriptures.
Many attrocities have been committed in the name of God and Jesus which have nothing to do with him.
Read the Acts and find that men gave their lives for preaching Jesus Christ and him crucified without ever raising a sword!
The quote you just quoted from the qoran says to fight untill all believe in Allah, if they cease meaning “surrender” then they quite fighting.
WJ
No WJ in Islam there is no conversion by the sword the Quran says:(1) There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #256)When Islamic conqurers during the Crusades entered a land they allowed everyone to continue practicing their religion unlike Christian crusaders that beheaded many and forced conversion by the sword.
BDDo you have your head in the sand!
What do you think is going on in the name of Islam and Allah in the middle east today?
Islamic terrorist like Osama bin Laden are still beheading what they call infidels in the name of Allah!
Read the post at the beginning of this thread and see how many quotes in the Qoran that incites violence against those who do not follow the Muslim faith and Allah!
WJ
Hi BD
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,15:32) Jesus spoke Aramaic so he called “God” Alaha
Here is some information exposing your present day leader, Osama Bin Laden and what he says about Allah as being God.“El-law” or “El-lawh” in Aramaic means “GOD”, while “Eloi” in Aramaic means “My GOD” as Jesus used the word “Eloi” when he was put on the cross and said “My GOD My GOD why have you foresaken me? (Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachtani?)….(Mark 15:34)”
Osama counts on his reader being uninformed about this information however if we translate this statement to Arabic and in the context of the sentence, it should be:“'ilaahiy, 'ilaahiy limaadaa taraktani?”
It will be grammatically incorrect to say:
“allaahiy, allaahiy limada taraktani?”
or
“allaah, allaahiy limada tarktani?”The NT was written in Greek however it points us to him speaking the Aramaic language not Arabic. Jesus was quoting Psalm 22:1. So why is the transliteration ilah instead of Allah? Osama uses an age old trick to fool his reader who knows less than he does!!
In Arabic, “GOD” means “Allah”, and “My GOD” means “Ilahi” or “Elahi” which is derived from the word “Allah”.
Mere speculation by Osama, Allah isn't derived from “ILAH” What proof do you have to back this up? What linguistic evidence? None. Even the Quran doesn't use Allah as a common noun for “GOD”. Read these verses:
[15:96] who set up another god ('ilaahan) beside Allah (allaahi)…[16:51] Allah (allaahu) has proclaimed: “Do not worship two gods ('ilaahayni); there is only one god ('ilaahun)…”
In all the contexts of application of the term allaah, it is used as a proper name. There is not even one example where it was used as a common noun. Meanwhile the term ‘ilaah is the term that was always applied for common nouns. Q.38:5 is a very clear example that shows us that linguistically (lexicon) the two terms are distinct and have separate definitions. Therefore Osama is guilty of lying to his audience, especially since he is an Arabic speaker. Even Muslims say that Allah is never a common word or noun used as “god” or “GOD”.
Muhammad’s Allah: “ALLAH” is not a GOD, by Ahmad Hulusi It is “ALLAH,” not “God!” Yet, it is never a name for a god!…There is no god to be worshipped, there is only ALLAH! This statement also reveals that: “ALLAH is not a GOD…” Nobody can comprehend what the “Religion of Islam” is about and why it has ever come, unless one fully understood the difference in meaning between a concept of “god” and the name “ALLAH” signified. Due to this, one can keep misinterpreting the matter of religion (Islam)!… I have tried to make it clear that any idea that the word “god” implies is completely different in meaning than the name “ALLAH” implies. These are two different words with completely different meanings… The word “god” is a common adjective, yet “ALLAH” is a proper noun for a unique essence… The original Religion of Islam” in effect is fully based on the meaning implied by the name “ALLAH.”
Koran Interpretation, by Hamdi Yazir of Elmali (Religious Affairs Directory, Vol.1, p.24-25)The word ALLAH has never been applied to any other than ALLAH, neither in proper form nor in common. Take the names such as “ilah” and “huda,” for example; none of them is a proper name as “Allah.” They imply a concept of “god” or “lord.” It has been said “gods” as the plural form of “god,” “lords” as for “lord,” etc. Unlike, it has never been said “Allahs” and can never be so… So, the common name God is not synonymous for the proper noun “Allah,” and is not an equivalent for “Allah.” “God” is a very common name! Therefore one should never translate the name “Allah” as “God.”
Osama's theory about Allah being the word “GOD” or “god” is purely a hoax. I challenge him to show us anywhere in the Quran where Allah is used as a common name. He won't be able to substantiate this claim therefore his whole theory is based on nothing more than wishful thinking.
SourceWJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,07:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,15:22) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,07:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,14:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,03:34) Hi BD Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,02:28) What's funny is you call Christians and Jews unbelievers the fact is you cant understand spiritual things. Christians and Jews are not Unbelievers.
What is a Christian? True believers according to the scriptures is found in the NT, those who believe Jesus died for their sins and rose again.Read the book of Acts, that is where Christianity begins and where the term “Christians” was first mentioned.
The quotes you make above is contradictory of what the Qoran teaches.
That is not what the Qoran teaches.
Qur'an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
The unbelievers are those who do not submit to Allah and the Islamic faith.
Qur'an (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.
This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
WJ
WJ,I could point out several Christian atrocities such as the inquisition, salem witch trials…etc but let's just say many of these atrocites were not a matter of defense but of offense to God and man.
Also, You seem to not want to read the Quran with a Pure heart because if you did you would see that the scriptures you point out are defensive
The Quran explains that if they cease fighting you then cease fighting them.
(2) And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #193)
BDAgain you would be missing the point that those events had nothing to do with Biblical Christianity found in the scriptures.
Many attrocities have been committed in the name of God and Jesus which have nothing to do with him.
Read the Acts and find that men gave their lives for preaching Jesus Christ and him crucified without ever raising a sword!
The quote you just quoted from the qoran says to fight untill all believe in Allah, if they cease meaning “surrender” then they quite fighting.
WJ
No WJ in Islam there is no conversion by the sword the Quran says:(1) There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #256)When Islamic conqurers during the Crusades entered a land they allowed everyone to continue practicing their religion unlike Christian crusaders that beheaded many and forced conversion by the sword.
BDDo you have your head in the sand!
What do you think is going on in the name of Islam and Allah in the middle east today?
Islamic terrorist like Osama bin Laden are still beheading what they call infidels in the name of Allah!
Read the post at the beginning of this thread and see how many quotes in the Qoran that incites violence against those who do not follow the Muslim faith and Allah!
WJ
Just because Hitler was a Christian does that mean you support Hitler? Of course not!1) But if any one earns a fault or a sin and throws it on to one that is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood and a flagrant sin.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #112)It is against the teachings of the Quran to be a suicide killer
(1) O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #29)The most amazing thing is even in the midst of terrorism, Islam is the fastest Growing religion in the world. Islam is growing in america faster than before the horrible attacks here.
Hi BD,
Yes the popularity of the Islamic way is more evidence it is not the narrow way few choose.
The road to perdition is wide.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,08:12) Hi BD Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,15:32) Jesus spoke Aramaic so he called “God” Alaha
Here is some information exposing your present day leader, Osama Bin Laden and what he says about Allah as being God.“El-law” or “El-lawh” in Aramaic means “GOD”, while “Eloi” in Aramaic means “My GOD” as Jesus used the word “Eloi” when he was put on the cross and said “My GOD My GOD why have you foresaken me? (Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachtani?)….(Mark 15:34)”
Osama counts on his reader being uninformed about this information however if we translate this statement to Arabic and in the context of the sentence, it should be:“'ilaahiy, 'ilaahiy limaadaa taraktani?”
It will be grammatically incorrect to say:
“allaahiy, allaahiy limada taraktani?”
or
“allaah, allaahiy limada tarktani?”The NT was written in Greek however it points us to him speaking the Aramaic language not Arabic. Jesus was quoting Psalm 22:1. So why is the transliteration ilah instead of Allah? Osama uses an age old trick to fool his reader who knows less than he does!!
In Arabic, “GOD” means “Allah”, and “My GOD” means “Ilahi” or “Elahi” which is derived from the word “Allah”.
Mere speculation by Osama, Allah isn't derived from “ILAH” What proof do you have to back this up? What linguistic evidence? None. Even the Quran doesn't use Allah as a common noun for “GOD”. Read these verses:
[15:96] who set up another god ('ilaahan) beside Allah (allaahi)…[16:51] Allah (allaahu) has proclaimed: “Do not worship two gods ('ilaahayni); there is only one god ('ilaahun)…”
In all the contexts of application of the term allaah, it is used as a proper name. There is not even one example where it was used as a common noun. Meanwhile the term ‘ilaah is the term that was always applied for common nouns. Q.38:5 is a very clear example that shows us that linguistically (lexicon) the two terms are distinct and have separate definitions. Therefore Osama is guilty of lying to his audience, especially since he is an Arabic speaker. Even Muslims say that Allah is never a common word or noun used as “god” or “GOD”.
Muhammad’s Allah: “ALLAH” is not a GOD, by Ahmad Hulusi It is “ALLAH,” not “God!” Yet, it is never a name for a god!…There is no god to be worshipped, there is only ALLAH! This statement also reveals that: “ALLAH is not a GOD…” Nobody can comprehend what the “Religion of Islam” is about and why it has ever come, unless one fully understood the difference in meaning between a concept of “god” and the name “ALLAH” signified. Due to this, one can keep misinterpreting the matter of religion (Islam)!… I have tried to make it clear that any idea that the word “god” implies is completely different in meaning than the name “ALLAH” implies. These are two different words with completely different meanings… The word “god” is a common adjective, yet “ALLAH” is a proper noun for a unique essence… The original Religion of Islam” in effect is fully based on the meaning implied by the name “ALLAH.”
Koran Interpretation, by Hamdi Yazir of Elmali (Religious Affairs Directory, Vol.1, p.24-25)The word ALLAH has never been applied to any other than ALLAH, neither in proper form nor in common. Take the names such as “ilah” and “huda,” for example; none of them is a proper name as “Allah.” They imply a concept of “god” or “lord.” It has been said “gods” as the plural form of “god,” “lords” as for “lord,” etc. Unlike, it has never been said “Allahs” and can never be so… So, the common name God is not synonymous for the proper noun “Allah,” and is not an equivalent for “Allah.” “God” is a very common name! Therefore one should never translate the name “Allah” as “God.”
Osama's theory about Allah being the word “GOD” or “god” is purely a hoax. I challenge him to show us anywhere in the Quran where Allah is used as a common name. He won't be able to substantiate this claim therefore his whole theory is based on nothing more than wishful thinking.
SourceWJ
You just proved for yourself That ALLAH is Supreme and UNIQUE having no equal.1) Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #255)(2) Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #54)(4) Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?
( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #3)(8) If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #22)(9) Therefore exalted be Allah, the King, the Reality: there is no god but He, the Lord of the throne of Honour!
( سورة المؤمنون , Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #116)(11) “(Allah)!- there is no god but He!- Lord of the throne Supreme!”
( سورة النمل , An-Naml, Chapter #27, Verse #26)(14) And thou wilt see the angels surrounding the throne (Divine) on all sides, singing Glory and Praise to their Lord. The Decision between them (at Judgment) will be in (perfect) justice, and the cry (on all sides) will be, “Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!”
( سورة الزمر , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #75)15) Those who sustain the throne (of Allah. and those around it Sing Glory and Praise to their Lord; believe in Him; and implore Forgiveness for those who believe: “Our Lord! Thy Reach is over all things, in Mercy and Knowledge. Forgive, then, those who turn in R
epentance, and follow Thy Path; and preserve them from the Penalty of the Blazing Fire!
( سورة غافر , Ghafir, Chapter #40, Verse #7)(16) He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and is moreover firmly established on the throne (of Authority). He knows what enters within the earth and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah sees well all that ye do.
( سورة الحديد , Al-Hadid, Chapter #57, Verse #4)(2) Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
( سورة الفاتحة , Al-Fatiha, Chapter #1, Verse #2)Hi BD
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,16:22) Just because Hitler was a Christian does that mean you support Hitler? Of course not! Hitler wasn't a Christian. Its obvious that he wasn't a follower of Jesus or of the NT Apotles, so he was not a Christian though he may have claimed to be.
WJ
Hi BD
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,16:40) You just proved for yourself That ALLAH is Supreme and UNIQUE having no equal. No I just proved that your claim Jesus mentioned Allahs name is a lie.
Now you say that Osama Bin Ladins God is yours!
WJ
Hi BD
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,16:22) It is against the teachings of the Quran to be a suicide killer Yes it is against the teachings of the qoran, yet the qoran also teaches to kill those who betray their God and this is what the homicide bombers do is kill those who do not follow Islam.
WJ
DB………If you do not accept the death of Jesus as Payment for your sins, then you have no life in you brother. Scripture says Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. Yours and Mine brother, we are (purchased with great Price. Do you find that hard to believe, Jesus life was the price payed , He was GOD sacrificial Lamb given for the sins of the whole world. You will come back and say, why did GOD have to Pay anything for Our sins, It was because GOD requires Justice for sin and the penalty for sin is death, so He removed the Penalty of death by the sacrifice of Jesus. God so loved the world that He gave His uniquely begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not parish but have eternal life. There is no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood. If you say you believe Jesus' words then you ought to believe this also brother. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………gene
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,09:12) Hi BD Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,16:22) It is against the teachings of the Quran to be a suicide killer Yes it is against the teachings of the qoran, yet the qoran also teaches to kill those who betray their God and this is what the homicide bombers do is kill those who do not follow Islam.
WJ
You are incorrect. The Quran simply says you can protect your family or nation just as Israel was told.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2009,09:07) Hi BD Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2009,16:40) You just proved for yourself That ALLAH is Supreme and UNIQUE having no equal. No I just proved that your claim Jesus mentioned Allahs name is a lie.
Now you say that Osama Bin Ladins God is yours!
WJ
God is the God of all flesh and spirit, He judges those who do evil for what they have don and He judges what is good and right and rewards those who do those things.There are no gods and hence you are correct there is no such word as allahs There is ALLAH and there is no other god besides Him. He is your God and my God so take heed and refrain from arrogance as you don't want to speak against God while being unaware of it, do you?
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