Is the word of god the holy spirit?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,09:19)

ED, The Word is the seed, not the fulfillment of the promise.

Hi Nick,

Both.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
We have the words of Jesus to tell us the word is the seed.
We have only yours to add to that.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,16:30)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2010,07:28) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,15:19) WorshippingJesus,Mar. wrote: Gene …the words of God are spoken by God and he is not his own spoken words! WJ Hi WJ, Are your words your son? Or are your words you? Why to 'YOU' try to make God's Word(The Word) in to his son? Your 'logic' is a bit lacking; don't you think? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED So what if I speak Gods words, are they “Me”… WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,16:30)

Hi WJ, How can you possibly be “holy” (as you stated earlier on this thread) if God's words don't become part of you?

ED

Because I am washed by the blood of Jesus that cleanses me from all sin and unrighteousness! 1 Peter 1:2 – 1 John 1:2

Stop being evasive to my questions.

The word of God is only a part of me because it dwells in me.

So what are you teaching that we are becoming “Gods spoken words”, because if anything changes it is me and not the word of God?

My question was “If I speak Gods words are they me?”

By your own foolish logic you are saying that I am becoming God because I am becoming gods spoken words which you say is God!

Is God a spoken word or does God speak words?

WJ

[942767]

Hi:

Why add to or take away from the Word of God which states that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, and so, that is what the Word of God states:

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1 Co. 2:7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2010,09:53)

ED ((())) The word of God is only a part of me because 'it' dwells in me. 1) So what are you teaching that we are becoming “Gods spoken words”, because if anything changes it is me and not the word of God? 2) My question was “If I speak Gods words are they me?” 3) By your own foolish logic you are saying that I am becoming God because I am becoming gods spoken words which you say is God! 4) Is God a spoken word or does God speak words? WJ

Hi WJ,

((())) Great; I'm glad we can agree: “He”(HolySpirit) indwells me as well!

1) I never said that; why are you putting 'spin' on things that you don't understand?

2) Why would you speak God's words if they were NOT part of you?

3) 'i am' is Lucifer's title; you are using MORE 'spin'!

4) Even your question has 'WJ' 'spin'!

Ed J

[Ed J]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2010,10:14)

Hi: Why add to or take away from the Word of God which states that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, and so, that is what the Word of God states: Quote 1 Co. 2:7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual Love in Christ, Marty

Hi Marty,

The Bible also states…

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Do you believe this Spirit (that “IS” GOD) is “Holy”? Do you believe God's word is his or his Son?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
God is not His Holy Spirit.
His Spirit is OF HIM just as your spirit is of you.

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
God is not His Word.
His word is OF HIM just as your words are of you.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,14:12)

Hi ED, 1) God is not His Holy Spirit. 2) His Spirit is OF HIM just as your spirit is of you.

Hi Nick,

1) The HolySpirit is the essence of GOD!
2) My Spirit is the essence of me.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,14:17)

Hi ED, 1) God is not His Word. 2) His word is OF HIM just as your words are of you.

Hi Nick,

1) God's Word is the essence of GOD!
2) My words are the essence of me.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[942767]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,14:01)

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2010,10:14) Hi: Why add to or take away from the Word of God which states that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, and so, that is what the Word of God states: Quote 1 Co. 2:7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual Love in Christ, Marty Hi Marty, The Bible also states… John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Do you believe this Spirit (that “IS” GOD) is “Holy”? Do you believe God's word is his or his Son? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed:

The life that a person lives defines the person. God has said,

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Leviticus 11:45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.

And God made man in His own image, and yes, Jesus is the express image of his person. And Jesus has said, “he who has seen me has seen the Father”. The last Adam has become like God through learning to apply His Word to his life in this world. The Son is said to be the Word.

Ed you are at least partially correct. The Holy Spirit does embody the Word of God, but I am not sure if one can make the statement the Holy Spirit is the Word of God. The Holy Spirit is the life of the Father.

I will have to pray and ask for understanding.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,14:58)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,14:17) Hi ED, 1) God is not His Word. 2) His word is OF HIM just as your words are of you. Hi Nick, 1) God's Word is the essence of GOD! 2) My words are the essence of me. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you right Gods word is his;

but your words are not yours ,our words are everyone's words we copy ,accept someone else's words and thought

Gods words being the truth this is true;by using Gods words in our lives and mind we let the thoughts in it to take over ours, this is how his spirit guide us ,and through his spirit he can communicate to us,on the base of his word of truth.

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
God's word is His essence?
You rate humanity far too highly I think.
We are a moment in time and His word is a glimpse of reality.

[Ed J]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2010,15:59)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,14:01) Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2010,10:14) Hi: Why add to or take away from the Word of God which states that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, and so, that is what the Word of God states: Quote 1 Co. 2:7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual Love in Christ, Marty Hi Marty, The Bible also states… John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Do you believe this Spirit (that “IS” GOD) is “Holy”? Do you believe God's word is his or his Son? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed: The life that a person lives defines the person.  God has said, Quote Leviticus 11:45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. And God made man in His own image, and yes, Jesus is the express image of his person.  And Jesus has said, “he who has seen me has seen the Father”.  The last Adam has become like God through learning to apply His Word to his life in this world.  The Son is said to be the Word. Ed you are at least partially correct.  The Holy Spirit does embody the Word of God, but I am not sure if one can make the statement the Holy Spirit is the Word of God.  The Holy Spirit is the life of the Father. I will have to pray and ask for understanding. Love in Christ, Marty

Hi Marty,

And you know who said this…
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

The Bible says in Acts…
Acts:17:11: These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received The Word(John 14:24 / John 17:3)
                  with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily (1Cor.13:7), whether those things were so.

                          The AKJV Bible

The AKJV Bible has made use of italicized words, words that are absent from the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.
The AKJV translators did this so as NOT to accidentally corrupt the sacred “Scriptures,
because the AKJV Bible was translated on a “Word for Word” basis!

The Posts you make are 'corrupted', because you are NOT Posting the “Authorized” KJV.
I know this to be a FACT and I can prove it by Posting the “Authorized” Version for you.
I took the liberty of removing the 'added words', because 'i am' is Lucifer's 'title'; and he that has corrupted MANY modern versions!

Leviticus 11:45 For I(JEHOVAH=69) the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall
therefore be holy, for I Holy=69. Theomatics(Biblical Gematria or Numbers in Scripture) corroborate “Bible Truth”=117

                       “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Of course all forms of the KJV are from the majority texts which are neither the oldest nor necessarily the best.
Those who restrict use of bibles to one always draw a little concern.
Cult leaders do this.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,22:00)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2010,09:53) ED ((())) The word of God is only a part of me because 'it' dwells in me. 1) So what are you teaching that we are becoming “Gods spoken words”, because if anything changes it is me and not the word of God? 2) My question was “If I speak Gods words are they me?” 3) By your own foolish logic you are saying that I am becoming God because I am becoming gods spoken words which you say is God! 4) Is God a spoken word or does God speak words? WJ Hi WJ, ((())) Great; I'm glad we can agree: “He”(HolySpirit) indwells me as well! 1) I never said that; why are you putting 'spin' on things that you don't understand? 2) Why would you speak God's words if they were NOT part of you? 3) 'i am' is Lucifer's title; you are using MORE 'spin'! 4) Even your question has 'WJ' 'spin'! Ed J

ED

The scriptures are the “word of God”, yet they are also called the “dead letter”.

What brings them life? The Holy Spirit! The words of God can be spoken by “satan”, so is the word of God part of satan?

You seem to think so! Please explain!

So who is spinning? The word of God is not the Holy Spirit or else “satan” has the Holy Spirit, right?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2010,09:53)

Is God a spoken word or does God speak words?

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,22:00)

Even your question has 'WJ' 'spin'!

There is no spin in the question. You just can't answer it because you would have to spin with your answer!

You speak untruths and twist the scriptures.

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, “which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction“. 2 Peter 3:16

WJ

[942767]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,17:09)

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2010,15:59) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,14:01) Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2010,10:14) Hi: Why add to or take away from the Word of God which states that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, and so, that is what the Word of God states: Quote 1 Co. 2:7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual Love in Christ, Marty Hi Marty, The Bible also states… John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Do you believe this Spirit (that “IS” GOD) is “Holy”? Do you believe God's word is his or his Son? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed: The life that a person lives defines the person.  God has said, Quote Leviticus 11:45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. And God made man in His own image, and yes, Jesus is the express image of his person.  And Jesus has said, “he who has seen me has seen the Father”.  The last Adam has become like God through learning to apply His Word to his life in this world.  The Son is said to be the Word. Ed you are at least partially correct.  The Holy Spirit does embody the Word of God, but I am not sure if one can make the statement the Holy Spirit is the Word of God.  The Holy Spirit is the life of the Father. I will have to pray and ask for understanding. Love in Christ, Marty Hi Marty, And you know who said this… The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. The Bible says in Acts… Acts:17:11: These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received The Word(John 14:24 / John 17:3)                   with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily (1Cor.13:7), whether those things were so.                           The AKJV Bible The AKJV Bible has made use of italicized words, words that are absent from the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. The AKJV translators did this so as NOT to accidentally corrupt the sacred “Scriptures, because the AKJV Bible was translated on a “Word for Word” basis! The Posts you make are 'corrupted', because you are NOT Posting the “Authorized” KJV. I know this to be a FACT and I can prove it by Posting the “Authorized” Version for you. I took the liberty of removing the 'added words', because 'i am' is Lucifer's 'title'; and he that has corrupted MANY modern versions! Leviticus 11:45 For I(JEHOVAH=69) the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I Holy=69. Theomatics(Biblical Gematria or Numbers in Scripture) corroborate “Bible Truth”=117                        “YHVH is GOD”=117 PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed:

I said that I would pray for understanding. I do not want to teach anything that is not God's Word.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,08:32)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2010,13:05) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,13:48) Hi Mike, Are you saying you don't have the “HolySpirit” in you? Ed J Hi Ed, I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is of the Father, not the Father. The Word is Jesus Christ before he was known as Jesus Christ. peace and love, mike Hi Mike, That's what the systems of religion teach. Did you ever investigate “The Word” since hearing differently? Acts17:11: These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received “The Word”(HolySpirit) with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Do you believe in 'a rapture' as well; that is another distortion taught by the traditions of men? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

Acts 17:11 says:

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11Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true

Yes I have, since you brought this topic up, tried to rethink it without Jesus being the Word who became flesh. I haven't read every word on this thread, but did you ever answer Irene about Jesus being called “The Word of God” in Revelation 19:11-16?

I think you are trying to defend your belief by implying that every instance of the word “word” in the Bible is talking about “The Word”. Sometimes, as in Acts, it just means God's words or teachings or message, not “The Word”.

I never read about a “rapture” in the Bible that I'm aware of. I've heard it said before, but always thought it was more Catholic nonsense. Wikipedia says it is another word for Christ's second coming. If that is all it is, then sure I believe.

peace and love,
mike

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2010,13:42)

Hi MB, That is only opinion and unsubstantiated by scripture. If we always had the Holy Spirit of life we would all live forever. There is no suggestion God shared His spirit with Adam or his descendants or any natural living thing.

Hi Nick,

You call my “understanding” of Scripture an “opinion that is unsubstantiated by Scripture”.

I repeat that I don't have all the answers.  But according to Scripture, God's Spirit was at some point in mankind (Gen. 6:3)  And also according to Scripture, when we die, our spirit returns to God:

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Ecclesiastes 12:7 NIV and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Based on Gen 6:3, I understand Gen 2:7 to be talking about God's “spirit”, even though it doesn't explicitly say “spirit”:

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Genesis 2:7 NIV the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Nick, instead of degrading my understanding, show me based on Scripture that my understanding is flawed, then I will believe, brother.  

peace and love,
mike

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2010,14:14)

mike64 if man have the spirit of God as you say then all man have it even the wicket ones.

Hi T,

That is correct – even the wicked have the Spirit of God as their life force IMO.

I think that what Jeremiah is saying is not that we don't have free will, but that without God's Spirit nothing that is alive could even take a step.  

I think that ALL Spirit proceeds from God and returns to God.  God's Spirit doesn't die, it just stops flowing through those who die.

And I think that nothing has a spirit that is in and of itself it's own.  Including Jesus, angels and man.  ALL spirit belongs to God.  That's my understanding, anyway.

peace and love,
mike

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