Is the bible so difficult to understand

[terraricca]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 08 2011,05:41)

Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2010,11:20) georg Paul understood scriptures and the shadow of the law, Melchizedek was the shadow of Christ in the accomplishment of the plan of God, he is only a part of that plan, the holy spirit is only active in you to have understanding if you are yourself incline to receive it. Pierre To whom was Paul speaking, and why? Why did Paul even bring up Melchizedek? And what was your purpose for repeating my scriptures; since you did not add anything to them?   Georg

georg

Paul was speaking to Jews,he explain that Christ is the promise

and that he came,and that God made him Priest and King….

scriptures are good for a remainder.

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2011,23:10)

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 08 2011,05:41) Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2010,11:20) georg Paul understood scriptures and the shadow of the law, Melchizedek was the shadow of Christ in the accomplishment of the plan of God, he is only a part of that plan, the holy spirit is only active in you to have understanding if you are yourself incline to receive it. Pierre To whom was Paul speaking, and why? Why did Paul even bring up Melchizedek? And what was your purpose for repeating my scriptures; since you did not add anything to them?   Georg georg Paul was speaking to Jews,he explain that Christ is the promise and that he came,and that God made him Priest and King…. scriptures are good for a remainder. Pierre

[thankful]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2009,09:58)

the Bible, God's creater record book and futur visions ?for man?how come so much decied ?so much miss understanding,so much divission,so many interpretations. why,why, PLEASE ANSWER TRUHTFULLY

it is the spirit of truth that leads us into all understanding. without the spirit of truth, the mind is unable to understand fully what is read. it is the spirit which opens our minds to what is written. it is one of Gods ways of communication with him. the scriptures are what bring us closer to God. there is a time and a place for everything. our memory should retain most of what is learned through reading the bible. if you have your head stuck in it all the time, and many years have passed, then your not getting out there and 'doing it' are you, unless you have a good excuse.
(you can also go to a teacher if God has led you to one, for further understanding.

God bless. shinar.

[theodorej]

Quote (thankful @ Jan. 26 2011,21:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2009,09:58) the Bible, God's creater record book and futur visions ?for man?how come so much decied ?so much miss understanding,so much divission,so many interpretations. why,why, PLEASE ANSWER TRUHTFULLY it is the spirit of truth that leads us into all understanding. without the spirit of truth, the mind is unable to understand fully what is read. it is the spirit which opens our minds to what is written. it is one of Gods ways of communication with him. the scriptures are what bring us closer to God. there is a time and a place for everything. our memory should retain most of what is learned through reading the bible. if you have your head stuck in it all the time, and many years have passed, then your not getting out there and 'doing it' are you, unless you have a good excuse. (you can also go to a teacher if God has led you to one, for further understanding. God bless. shinar.

Greetings Thankfull……Amen ..To the spirit of truth,it indeed leads to a clear understanding,your recognition of this to be a gift that not every one receives is refreshing…It will indeed be available to all as God sees fit to bless with it…Diligent study of scripture serves as direction and correction,”A good understanding have those who keep my commandments”…Welcome to the forum….

[mikeangel]

Quote (theodorej @ Jan. 27 2011,00:17)

Quote (thankful @ Jan. 26 2011,21:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2009,09:58) the Bible, God's creater record book and futur visions ?for man?how come so much decied ?so much miss understanding,so much divission,so many interpretations. why,why, PLEASE ANSWER TRUHTFULLY it is the spirit of truth that leads us into all understanding. without the spirit of truth, the mind is unable to understand fully what is read. it is the spirit which opens our minds to what is written. it is one of Gods ways of communication with him. the scriptures are what bring us closer to God. there is a time and a place for everything. our memory should retain most of what is learned through reading the bible. if you have your head stuck in it all the time, and many years have passed, then your not getting out there and 'doing it' are you, unless you have a good excuse. (you can also go to a teacher if God has led you to one, for further understanding. God bless. shinar. Greetings Thankfull……Amen ..To the spirit of truth,it indeed leads to a clear understanding,your recognition of this to be a gift that not every one receives is refreshing…It  will indeed be available to all as God sees fit to bless with it…Diligent study of scripture serves as direction and correction,”A good understanding have those who keep my commandments”…Welcome to the forum….

hear hear! Theo, I am starting to think you got a good grip on things and I agree with you. Come to think of it , I do not think I have ever read a post by you that I did not at least partially agree with. Thankful-Amen-Let the spirit guide you after you read God's word. But be careful with the teachers. It's a zoo out there right now.Trust God and worship God Alone. Peace -Mark

[thankful]

thank you, nice to meet you both. im sure i will have more to say on this, just not yet. my mind is on something else (scriptual) at the moment.

God bless you both.

[terraricca]

Quote (thankful @ Jan. 27 2011,04:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2009,09:58) the Bible, God's creater record book and futur visions ?for man?how come so much decied ?so much miss understanding,so much divission,so many interpretations. why,why, PLEASE ANSWER TRUHTFULLY it is the spirit of truth that leads us into all understanding. without the spirit of truth, the mind is unable to understand fully what is read. it is the spirit which opens our minds to what is written. it is one of Gods ways of communication with him. the scriptures are what bring us closer to God. there is a time and a place for everything. our memory should retain most of what is learned through reading the bible. if you have your head stuck in it all the time, and many years have passed, then your not getting out there and 'doing it' are you, unless you have a good excuse. (you can also go to a teacher if God has led you to one, for further understanding. God bless. shinar.

hi Shinar

yes there is much to learn in the thoughts that a person put on line ,on a certain subject,
i was reading your comment but this came to my mind;Jas 1:19 My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry,

and then this ;Jas 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

we all have a spirit , this does not mean that it observes God s will, are spirit is of men and of men things but if we change that spirit to become subdue to Gods will then we have now learn to become wise and put glory where it is belong,

it is true God is spirit and communicate with us that way,but this also does not mean that we would understand him or accept is wisdom,

why would i need a teacher a men with all of his ego and sinful ways ,no better than me??

is it men teachings and interpretation you seek ??
I absolutely do NOT.

going to men shows trust in men not God,
I trust God fully totaly ,
1SA 12:15 “ If you will not listen to the voice of the LORD, but rebel against the command of the LORD, then the hand of the LORD will be against you,

1SA 8:7 The LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in regard to all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being king over them.
1SA 8:5 and they said to him(Samuel), “Behold, you have grown old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now appoint a king for us to judge us like all the nations.

and you believe scriptures bring us closer to God ?? no this is not true many people have stacks of bibles in their book cases,but they do not read it for the purpose to know God.

you know the scriptures and I also but it seems we are not informed with the same understanding why is that ??
Is it not because of our hearths and mind and the words our lips speak ?? yes in deed,

I will send you to God for more research on is spirit and understanding ,

Christ did not trust men neither.

Pierre

[kerwin]

Pierre,

Yes, since you can only understand it, and so aplly it, if you are lead by God.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2011,03:43)

Pierre, Yes, since you can only understand it, and so aplly it, if you are lead by God.

Kerwin

and to what you say ,it is what is in your hearth that will make the difference,

God knows what is his,

Pierre

[terraricca]

All

I do see that God lead us by many ways,first by our love for him,by his word of truth (scriptures) but when we have all that in our hearts then he also make us feel that he is with us in many way to each of us in a different way but always in truth,

this is a big comfort and it does stimulate our faith in him and his son Jesus Christ

Pierre

[Pastry]

I have read some of what was said about the thousand reign of Christ. What some however don't understand is that Jesus will have to do away with all wicked men. These Scriptures explain it

Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Rev 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Jesus will smite the nations first…..and now read this

1Cr 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

In order for Jesus do do all of this Satan is put away. But after that He will be loosed again and will deceive many…it says in Rev. in the end thos will be

Mal 4:1 ¶ For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do [this], saith the LORD of hosts.

After that God will come down with the New Jerusalem and will dwell with men.

Rev 21:1 ¶ And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Only then can we say peace on earth, good will to men…..To that day I am forever looking forward to…..Peace and Love Irene

[terraricca]

All

Ps 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight
are like a day that has just gone by,
or like a watch in the night.

Pr 16:4 The LORD works out everything for his own ends—
even the wicked for a day of disaster.

Isa 2; 12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and haughty, and upon every one that is high and towering, and they shall be brought down;

Isa 22:5 The Lord, the LORD Almighty, has a day
of tumult and trampling and terror
in the Valley of Vision,
a day of battering down walls
and of crying out to the mountains

Isa 34:8 For the LORD has a day of vengeance,
a year of retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause.

Isa 66:8 Who has ever heard of such a thing?
Who has ever seen such things?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.

Jer 46:10 But that day belongs to the Lord, the LORD Almighty—
a day of vengeance , for vengeance on his foes.
The sword will devour till it is satisfied,
till it has quenched its thirst with blood.

some thing to think about

Pierre

[theodorej]

Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2011,11:09)

All Ps 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night. Pr 16:4 The LORD works out everything for his own ends— even the wicked for a day of disaster. Isa 2;   12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and haughty, and upon every one that is high and towering, and they shall be brought down; Isa 22:5 The Lord, the LORD Almighty, has a day of tumult and trampling and terror in the Valley of Vision, a day of battering down walls and of crying out to the mountains Isa 34:8 For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a year of retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause. Isa 66:8 Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children. Jer 46:10 But that day belongs to the Lord, the LORD Almighty— a day of vengeance , for vengeance on his foes. The sword will devour till it is satisfied, till it has quenched its thirst with blood. some thing to think about Pierre

Greetings Pierre ….. “A good understanding has he who keeps my commandments” ….. The bible interprets itself a little here and a little there…. This book is a timeless work of perfection that involves much study coupled with prayer for understanding….. and God blesses with understanding as he sees fit…. Many a scholor and self professed scholor are perplexed over this book but that does not stop their vanity from attempting to interpret it and as a result we get the confusion we have today…..It is a very difficult book to understand by design….

[terraricca]

Quote (theodorej @ July 16 2011,05:58)

Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2011,11:09) All Ps 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night. Pr 16:4 The LORD works out everything for his own ends— even the wicked for a day of disaster. Isa 2;   12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and haughty, and upon every one that is high and towering, and they shall be brought down; Isa 22:5 The Lord, the LORD Almighty, has a day of tumult and trampling and terror in the Valley of Vision, a day of battering down walls and of crying out to the mountains Isa 34:8 For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a year of retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause. Isa 66:8 Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children. Jer 46:10 But that day belongs to the Lord, the LORD Almighty— a day of vengeance , for vengeance on his foes. The sword will devour till it is satisfied, till it has quenched its thirst with blood. some thing to think about Pierre Greetings Pierre ….. “A good understanding has he who keeps my commandments” ….. The bible interprets itself a little here and a little there…. This book is a timeless work of perfection that involves much study coupled with prayer for understanding….. and God blesses with understanding as he sees fit…. Many a scholor and self professed scholor are perplexed over this book but that does not stop their vanity from attempting to interpret it and as a result we get the confusion we have today…..It is a very difficult book to understand by design….

theo my friend

you are right ,but if we are humble in our heart and submit to God in all thing and trust him then he reveal himself to us ,

and I testify to that ,i know this is true ,

and his love is indescribable ,so keep reading those book they are full of understanding

Pierre

[NickHassan]

Hi,
One of the tranforming days in my life is when I was given a bible with cross references.

Discovering a verse that was beautiful I took a trail through the new and old testaments following these and revealing an amazing network of truth.

It became plain that God had written a complete doctrine in the book that could be found by study and this was enjoyable work.

It then amazed me why denominations taught flimsy one verse dogmas that divided them from others who read the same book.

2Cor 13.1
This also has three parallel verses

It is for the simple.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,12:40)

Hi, One of the tranforming days in my life is when I was given a bible with cross references. Discovering a verse that was beautiful I took a trail through the new and old testaments following these and revealing an amazing network of truth. It became plain that God had written a complete doctrine in the book that could be found by study and this was enjoyable work. It then amazed me why denominations taught flimsy one verse dogmas that divided them from others who read the same book. 2Cor 13.1 This also has three parallel verses It is for the simple.

nick

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It is for the simple.

2Co 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
2Co 13:2 I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others,
2Co 13:3 since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you.
2Co 13:4 For to be sure, he was crucified in weakness, yet he lives by God’s power. Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God’s power we will live with him to serve you.
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

IS IT ??for the humble

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This also has three parallel verses

yes here it is;

Dt 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict a man accused of any crime or offense he may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Dt 19:16 If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse a man of a crime,
Dt 19:17 the two men involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the LORD before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time.
Dt 19:18 The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against his brother,
Dt 19:19 then do to him as he intended to do to his brother. You must purge the evil from among you.
Dt 19:20 The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you.
Dt 19:21 Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

was this set up for the righteous humble in heart

for more than 400 years God has used religion greed(richness) to spread his word all over the world just like trumpets ,but few were listening

Pierre

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Jesus also quoted this verse.
God shows how differently the principle can apply

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,14:11)

Hi T, Jesus also quoted this verse. God shows how differently the principle can apply

Nick

this one ??

MT 6:12 ‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
MT 6:14 “ For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
We have to wash our feet daily.
Short accounts to be kept

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,15:54)

Hi T, We have to wash our feet daily. Short accounts to be kept

nick

yes it is true but ,this is more in your heart

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