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Terra, once again and throughout, we are encouraged by each other and through Christ.
God's blessing to you.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2010,17:31) CO do not turn the patience of God against yourself.use you free will and come to Christ for forgiveness
terraricca.
Why would I come to Christ for forgiveness? Was His death, ressurrection, and ascention to Gods right-hand side, of no consequence? Did He have to go through all this pain and suffering for nothing? No, He has justified all mankind in Gods eyes, He (God) sees our sins NO MORE!
I think is would be insulting to God and Christ Jesus to ask for forgiveness. I, personally thank God and His Christ for what He did for me. No, I would not come to Him and ask for forgiveness, this would be an insult to Him, showing no thanks for His sacrifice.Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 24 2010,13:49) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2010,17:31) CO do not turn the patience of God against yourself.use you free will and come to Christ for forgiveness
terraricca.
Why would I come to Christ for forgiveness? Was His death, ressurrection, and ascention to Gods right-hand side, of no consequence? Did He have to go through all this pain and suffering for nothing? No, He has justified all mankind in Gods eyes, He (God) sees our sins NO MORE!
I think is would be insulting to God and Christ Jesus to ask for forgiveness. I, personally thank God and His Christ for what He did for me. No, I would not come to Him and ask for forgiveness, this would be an insult to Him, showing no thanks for His sacrifice.Blessings, Jerry.
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God did not absolve all men when Christ died.The kingdom is preached and men enter it by the way of Christ.
Your opinions mean nothing compared with the generous offer of God to save your soul.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2010,16:32) CO you just made a free will choise.based on your understanding of what you believe.
terraricca.2Cor.5:18-19 …18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.What would your understanding be of this scripture? Does it not say plainly “not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation”?
Did not Christ die for everyone? Or is it your understanding that He died only for some who qualify themselves?
Blessings.
CO
Christ died for all in the world up till now who believed in him and is father,by faith and or deedsNick………Repentance is (NOT) an (OPPORTUNITY) it is and act of GOD in the hearts and minds of those He choses. Repentance comes through GODLY Sorrow. “FOR (GODLY) SORROW (WORKS) REPENTANCE NOT TO NE REPENTED OF”, And again “FOR YOU SORROWED UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS, or have you not read that NICK. Men do (NOT) repent on (THEIR) Own. On the day of Pentecost when the Holy SPIRIT was poured out on them, “THEY WERE PRICKED IN THEIR HEARTS” AND SAID “MEN AND BRETHREN WHAT SHALL WE DO SEEING WE HAVE PUT TO DEATH THE SON OF GOD”. You see how the HOLY SPIRIT produced in them their repentance, it did not come later it happened when the SPIRIT convicted them in there heart of their wrong. Is it not written? Please Show SCRIPTURE that supports your teaching that says repentance is an ” OPPORTUNITY” .
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Nick………Repentance is (NOT) an (OPPORTUNITY) it is and act of GOD in the hearts and minds of those He choses. Repentance comes through GODLY Sorrow. “FOR (GODLY) SORROW (WORKS) REPENTANCE NOT TO NE REPENTED OF”, And again “FOR YOU SORROWED UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS, or have you not read that NICK. Men do (NOT) repent on (THEIR) Own. On the day of Pentecost when the Holy SPIRIT was poured out on them, “THEY WERE PRICKED IN THEIR HEARTS” AND SAID “MEN AND BRETHREN WHAT SHALL WE DO SEEING WE HAVE PUT TO DEATH THE SON OF GOD”. You see how the HOLY SPIRIT produced in them their repentance, it did not come later it happened when the SPIRIT convicted them in there heart of their wrong. Is it not written? Please Show SCRIPTURE that supports your teaching that says repentance is an ” OPPORTUNITY” .Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2010,12:20) CO
Christ died for all in the world up till now who believed in him and is father,by faith and or deeds
terraricca.
Are you saying that He (Jesus) died only for some? I'm not sure exactly what you have said, could you be more clear on what you mean?Blessings.
Hi CO,
The bill is paid.Will you come to Jesus to receive the blessing of forgiveness and new life?
Or is your philosophy satisfaction enough?CO
maybe this will clear it up to youGal 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
Gal 6:8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Ps 119:125 I am your servant; give me discernment
that I may understand your statutes.
Ps 119:126 It is time for you to act, O LORD?
your law is being broken.
Ps 119:127 Because I love your commands
more than gold, more than pure gold,
Ps 119:128 and because I consider all your precepts right,
I hate every wrong path.Ps 119:129 Your statutes are wonderful;
therefore I obey them.terraricca.
It doesnt seem to make much sense discussing how, and who, is obtaining salvation, and by what means. We are not going to change each others opinion.
Let us exchange opinions as brothers and sisters in Christ, we all have some truths and some errors. But lets not be critical of one another, after all, “All is of God”.Blessings, Jerry.
Nick………..When did CO say all (ARE) saved (NOW) as you imply, The way i believe and I believe CO thinks the same way , is that all (WILL) be SAVED (future tense) no present tense as you misrepresent it. But one thing is for sure (ALL) are FORGIVEN NOW BY the BLOOD of Jesus . Jesus' sacrifice was accepted by GOD the FATHER for (ALL) CREATION. As far as being saved , each in his own time. IMO
Quote (Gene @ Feb. 01 2010,16:51) Nick………..When did CO say all (ARE) saved (NOW) as you imply, The way i believe and I believe CO thinks the same way , is that all (WILL) be SAVED (future tense) no present tense as you misrepresent it. But one thing is for sure (ALL) are FORGIVEN NOW BY the BLOOD of Jesus . Jesus' sacrifice was accepted by GOD the FATHER for (ALL) CREATION. As far as being saved , each in his own time. IMO
Hi Gene.
Yes, you correctly stated my beliefs in this matter. All WILL be saved, a future event, at the “consummation” when God will be “All in all” (1Cor.15:28).Blessings.
Hi CO,
Really?
Ah yes ….all who remain after the judgement and the casting of sinners in the fire.All must repent.
Nick………Well then, seeing you are a sinner to, when will you be cast into the Lake of FIRE. ” For if we say we have no sin we are liars” says John , but you seem to think you can have sin in your life and escape damnation but other who have sin in their live are to be cast into a literial lake of fire. Before i talk about the condemnations of other i would consider myself first, or do you think you can still have sin and only others who have sins are going into the lake of Fire, But not you, Or have you yet mastered Perfection that there is (NO) sin left in you life? “HE WHO CONDEMNS ANOTHER CONDEMNS HIMSELF”.
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