Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #386710
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,00:46)
    Hi,
    In Acts 19 those who were not correctly baptised could not know the Holy Spirit.
    That fruit followed baptism in the name of Jesus.


    NICK

    AC 19:4 Paul said, “ John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
    RO 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
    EPH 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
    COL 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
    1PE 3:21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you— not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

    1Pe 4:1 Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin.
    1Pe 4:2 As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.
    1Pe 4:3 For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.
    1Pe 4:4 They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you.
    1Pe 4:5 But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
    1Pe 4:6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
    1Pe 4:7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray.
    1Pe 4:8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
    1Pe 4:9 Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling.
    1Pe 4:10 Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God’s grace in its various forms.
    1Pe 4:11 If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God.

    Ac 10:34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism
    Ac 10:35 but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.
    Ac 10:36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, telling the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.
    Ac 10:37 You know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached—
    Ac 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
    Ac 10:39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree,
    Ac 10:40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen.
    Ac 10:41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.
    Ac 10:42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead.
    Ac 10:43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
    Ac 10:44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.

    those scriptures seem to disagree with you

    #386715
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Trying to make scriptures fight each other?

    #386718
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2014,22:47)
    Hi T,
    Make sure the light in you is not darkness.


    nICK

    IF IT WAS DARKNESS THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM TO SHOW ME SCRIPTURES OF TRUTH TO CORRECT ME ,

    BUT SINS YOU CANNOT DO THAT IS SHOWS YOU ARE IN THE DARK AND REJECTING THE LIGHT OF TRUTH

    #386721
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Water baptism is misunderstood
    It is useless without repentance

    #386723
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi T,
    Try to align scripture
    Then you will gain some understanding

    #386733
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,00:46)
    Hi,
    In Acts 19 those who were not correctly baptised could not know the Holy Spirit.
    That fruit followed baptism in the name of Jesus.


    Nick

    Ac 19:4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
    Ac 19:5 On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
    Ac 19:6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.

    what is it that you do not understand in this scriptures ???

    #386741
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,02:29)
    Hi,
    Water baptism is misunderstood
    It is useless without repentance


    Nick

    Ac 19:3 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?”
    “John’s baptism,” they replied.
    Ac 19:4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
    Ac 19:5 On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
    Ac 19:6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
    Ac 19:7 There were about twelve men in all.

    when are you going to believe scriptures in stead to inventing your own story???

    #386743
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    I showed it to you.
    What do you see?

    #386745
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Yes that is what I showed
    Are you confused?

    #386747
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,03:08)
    Hi T,
    Yes that is what I showed
    Are you confused?


    Nick

    but those scriptures support my view not your ,

    #386748
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,03:07)
    Hi T,
    I showed it to you.
    What do you see?


    Nick

    go through the sequence of what is really happen with Paul and the 12 people present ;and see ,one step at the time ,

    #386750
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Done
    next step?

    #386751
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    How is that?

    #386848
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,03:21)
    Hi T,
    How is that?


    nICK

    He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
    Ac 19:5 On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.

    THESE WHERE 12 OF THEM ,

    1Co 1:14 I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius,
    1Co 1:15 so no one can say that you were baptized into my name.
    1Co 1:16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.)
    1Co 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel

    BUT THEN WHO WAS SEND TO THE GENTILES TO BAPTIZE THEM ???

    #386850
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Any one who has been baptised can do the same for others.
    Paul had precious wisdom to teach so others could carry on after he had started

    Sorry this makes no sense
    “THESE WHERE 12 OF THEM ,” ??

    #386866
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,07:29)
    Hi,
    Water baptism is misunderstood
    It is useless without repentance


    Hi Nick,

    Is it useful with repentance?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #386867
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    The final decision as to whether the vessel is clean enough to house the Holy Spirit is God's
    Simon Magus did not repent adequately and was nearly condemned.

    #386873
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    What about the Gentiles being baptized
    with God's HolySpirit without water baptism?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #386880
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Without??

    Remember God showed Peter in a vision that what He considered clean was the issue not man's ideas.
    And what did the Spirit prompt Peter to command immediately after the Spirit manifested?

    #386883
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    I'm at my brothers house, and I don't have my bible program.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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