Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #376918
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,
    He laid out the detail of entering the way of Christ and gave a more spiritual vies in Rom6 of the same thing.
    Would you make scripture fight itself?

    #376919
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I am not the one making Scripture fight itself you are. I am just pointing out your choice to do so then offering an alternative interpretation for Hebrews 6:1-3 that does not condemn Paul's words in Romans 6.

    #376920
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Your mind may not be satisfied with the alignment but you could change

    #376926
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    God is of order.
    Heb 6 shows that order.
    But folk want to argue not obey

    #376928
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    My spirit is not satisfied with your interpretation of Hebrews 6 because it condemns the God's words in Roman 6. If you do not think your interpretation does then you must see things differently but you are failing to communicate how you see them.

    In Romans 6 Paul is expounding on the philosophy of Christ centered around being immersed in the name of Jesus. It is clear doing do is not something to be condemned.

    In Hebrews 6 the author is not condemning believers for expounding about the early things about the gospel but instead is condemning their lack of progress in getting away from those things.

    #376932
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi KW,
    Jesus has no philosophy
    That is for the entertainment of the greeks.

    To be condemned?
    It is the foundation of the message of salvation and response to the call of the Spirit.

    #376933
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    col2
    That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

    3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

    5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

    6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

    7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

    8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    #376942
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Nick.

    Quote
    3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    All the treasures.
    The whole picture.
    Anyone saying; we can not find all the truth
    is limited and lacking.

    But I also understand that not all is given all
    the treasures.
    Everyone is given according to sincerity of the heart.

    wakeup.

    #376950
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You have to admit the light into all the dark recesses of your soul.

    #376983
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2014,09:43)
    Hi WU,
    You have to admit the light into all the dark recesses of your soul.


    Nick.

    Who is to show us the dark spots in our souls?
    Let no one tell you what to believe; stick to the voice in your heart.
    Every one to their own voice.
    We can be many groups,and exchange ideas.
    And make war,for something to do.

    wakeup.

    #376986
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    The light penetrates.
    Sons of God are led by the Spirit of God

    #376999
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    You simply do not know what a philosopher was. A disciple after all is the student of a philosopher. That is why the philosophers wanted to hear Paul and his new philosophy after they heard him reasoning like other philosophers in the marketplace.

    #377000
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Are you dodging?

    #377007
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Paul was no philosopher but a mouthpiece for God
    and those men of the world wrongly thought he might be one of them.

    They only knew the wisdom of the world

    #377008
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    It was one of their idolatries
    Acts 17
    6 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry.

    17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.

    18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

    #377216
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2014,10:23)
    Hi KW,
    Paul was no philosopher but a mouthpiece for God
    and those men of the world wrongly thought he might be one of them.

    They only knew the wisdom of the world


    Nick,

    That is not written in Scripture nor is it implied.

    It is not written philosophers only deal with the wisdom of this world. They deal with wisdom and those that live according to the flesh deal with the wisdom of this world while those who deal with the wisdom of the Spirit.

    #377218
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Athens was at that time a pagan city given to worship idols. Paul called them religious in every way, Acts 17:22. They literally engaged in religious idolatry.

    #377223
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Religious idolatry still rules the earth

    #377339
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I do not know of many that worship idols in this age but perhaps you have more knowledge of that subject than me.

    #377342
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Is the world not like ancient Athens?

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