Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #279782
    kerwin
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 21 2012,09:59)
    Kerwin, you are right, the truth has always been the same, but man's perception of that truth has changed greatly.  Just like the church you were raised in, some truth, some lies.  That is the tree of knowledge of GOOD and EVIL.

    Each age was only responsible for what God gave them.  Almost all was lost during the dark ages.  Did the Lutheran church have all the truth, No.  They had more light then the Catholic church, just what God had begin to restore. They were reformers, little steps God moved forward.

    JOEL 2:25 † And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.

    The 1st age had the truth,  Then what happened, Paul knew what was coming.
    ACTS 20:29 † For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

    The Catholic church all but killed the true church.  You know that and I know that.

    God had a plan and He started bringing it back.  Just like the corn stock is not the corn, it is still part of the plant.  And just like Luther didn't have all the truth, doesn't make him not part of the vine.  It was God moving on.

    I know that most will not be able to receive this, it doesn't mean it is not true.  

    AMOS 3:7 †     Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

    MAL 4:5 5     †     Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
    6 †     And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin,

    A remnant has always held to the whole gospel of Christ.

    #298211
    NickHassan
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    Hi,
    In baptism we are CLOTHED with Christ[gal 3.27]

    Some are found at the wedding feast not wearing the correct garments.

    They are shocked to find themselves thrown out.

    #298212
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,08:36)
    Hi,
    In baptism we are CLOTHED with Christ[gal 3.27]

    Some are found at the wedding feast not wearing the correct garments.

    They are shocked to find themselves thrown out.


    Hi Nick,

    Did Jesus ever tell anyone to be baptized in water?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #298215
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ed,
    Nicodemus was told in spiritual terms.
    The apostles obeyed his Spirit to the letter and Acts is full of their water baptisms.

    #298216
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick, John 3:4-6 (KJV)

    Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old?
    can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
    Jesus told Nicodemus you cannot be born of water a second time!

    Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he
    cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #298217
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    When did you ASSUME Nicodemus was born of water the first time?

    #298218
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,09:00)
    Hi ED,
    When did you ASSUME Nicodemus was born of water the first time?


    Birth.

    You enjoy arguing over misconceptions, don't you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #298219
    Ed J
    Participant

    That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    #298221
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,09:03)
    That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


           They that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
             if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.” (Romans 8:8-9)

    #298222
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    So where in scripture is normal birth said to be OF WATER?

    #298223
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Heb 10
    22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

    Do you think the waters of childbirth are PURE WATER??

    #298226
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,09:13)
    Hi Ed,
    So where in scripture is normal birth said to be OF WATER?


    Hi Nick,

    So where in scripture is baptism said to be birth OF WATER?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #298227
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,09:16)
    Hi ED,
    Heb 10
    22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

    Do you think the waters of childbirth are PURE WATER??


    “That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,” (Eph 5:26)

    #298233
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    The washing OF the body of Christ does not relate to ENTRY TO that Body.

    #298234
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    So what witnessing verses have you found relevant to the waters of childbirth in scripture?

    #298235
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,09:51)
    Hi Ed,
    So what witnessing verses have you found relevant to the waters of childbirth in scripture?


    Hi Nick,

    What are you talking about?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #298236
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi ED,
    As a teacher you will want to offer scriptural proofs that the waters of birth relate to jn3 surely?
    Otherwise it remains your opinion.

    #298238
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,17:28)
    hi ED,
    As a teacher you will want to offer scriptural proofs that the waters of birth relate to jn3 surely?
    Otherwise it remains your opinion.


    N

    eddy does what you do ,you do not support your believes with scriptures just call others of not having the spirit , :D

    #298239
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2012,10:28)
    hi ED,
    As a teacher you will want to offer scriptural proofs that the waters of birth relate to jn3 surely?
    Otherwise it remains your opinion.


    Hi Nick, I offer as evidence Scripture…

    Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,09:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,09:03)
     That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


           They that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
             if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.” (Romans 8:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #298240
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    So how is CHILDBIRTH shown here-except by your implication?

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