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This is what searchgodstruth.org's Greek Lexicon states about the word “baptizo”. I see nothing that states it means “teach”.
Quote to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk)
to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one's self, bathe
to overwhelm
Not to be confused with 911, bapto. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change. When used in the New Testament, this word more often refers to our union and identification with Christ than to our water baptism. e.g. Mark 16:16. 'He that believes and is baptised shall be saved'. Christ is saying that mere intellectual assent is not enough. There must be a union with him, a real change, like the vegetable to the pickle! Bible Study Magazine, James Montgomery Boice, May 1989.Here is what the word “bapto” means. It is never translated into baptism in the King James version of scripture.
Quote to dip, dip in, immerse
to dip into dye, to dye, colour
Not to be confused with 907, baptizo. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change.Quote (kerwin @ April 09 2011,22:14) To all This is what searchgodstruth.org's Greek Lexicon states about the word “baptizo”. I see nothing that states it means “teach”.
Quote to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk)
to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one's self, bathe
to overwhelm
Not to be confused with 911, bapto. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change. When used in the New Testament, this word more often refers to our union and identification with Christ than to our water baptism. e.g. Mark 16:16. 'He that believes and is baptised shall be saved'. Christ is saying that mere intellectual assent is not enough. There must be a union with him, a real change, like the vegetable to the pickle! Bible Study Magazine, James Montgomery Boice, May 1989.Here is what the word “bapto” means. It is never translated into baptism in the King James version of scripture.
Quote to dip, dip in, immerse
to dip into dye, to dye, colour
Not to be confused with 907, baptizo. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change.
KerwinI have but one question for now;what baptism is it refer to in MK 10;38;39??
Mk 10:38 “You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”
Mk 10:39 “We can,” they answered.this would it be the baptism in Christ ?
Pierre
Pierre,
Mark 10(NIV,c.2011)
38 “You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”
39 “We can,” they answered.
Jesus said to them, “You will drink the cup I drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with, 40 but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.”
I hope to look into it some more but it appears he was speaking of his persecution.
Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2011,01:31) Pierre, Mark 10(NIV,c.2011)
38 “You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”
39 “We can,” they answered.
Jesus said to them, “You will drink the cup I drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with, 40 but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.”
I hope to look into it some more but it appears he was speaking of his persecution.
Kerwinyou right ,so baptizo as a different meaning now,right ?
and can mean teaching in the spirit ,suffer for the faith,
fidelity to ones believe and faith until dead.right?
but absolutely not water baptism.Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2011,00:20) Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2011,01:31) Pierre, Mark 10(NIV,c.2011)
38 “You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”
39 “We can,” they answered.
Jesus said to them, “You will drink the cup I drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with, 40 but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.”
I hope to look into it some more but it appears he was speaking of his persecution.
Kerwinyou right ,so baptizo as a different meaning now,right ?
and can mean teaching in the spirit ,suffer for the faith,
fidelity to ones believe and faith until dead.right?
but absolutely not water baptism.Pierre
Pierre,The definitions of Baptize I gave you are of the Common Greek as written in scripture.
Baptize just means “submerge” and Jesus was speaking of his and his servants future submergence. He merely implied in what. I am unsure what he implied though it seems to deal with persecution.
Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2011,02:54) Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2011,00:20) Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2011,01:31) Pierre, Mark 10(NIV,c.2011)
38 “You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”
39 “We can,” they answered.
Jesus said to them, “You will drink the cup I drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with, 40 but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.”
I hope to look into it some more but it appears he was speaking of his persecution.
Kerwinyou right ,so baptizo as a different meaning now,right ?
and can mean teaching in the spirit ,suffer for the faith,
fidelity to ones believe and faith until dead.right?
but absolutely not water baptism.Pierre
Pierre,The definitions of Baptize I gave you are of the Common Greek as written in scripture.
Baptize just means “submerge” and Jesus was speaking of his and his servants future submergence. He merely implied in what. I am unsure what he implied though it seems to deal with persecution.
Kerwinso you agree ,that baptism can be something else than submerging in water ?right
Pierre
Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2011,22:00) Pierre, Baptism means submerge. You can submerge in many things.
Kerwin
To all,
What does name mean in the following sentence?
An ambassador is sent to the UN in the name of his country.
Here's some SDA writing on this:
http://english.sdaglobal.org/research/mt2819.htm
I haven't read through it though.
Nick, the article I gave the link to is some research on Matthew 28:19. I don't know anything about it. I know I was Baptised in a Church at age 15, which denomination I don't know, it was a small church and I was living with another family at the time. We wore white gowns, and I think it was in Jesus name. I asked my Mother who recorded it, and she said it was in Jesus name.
Shimmer,
May I ask you a question, Did you give your heart to Jesus at 15 and then because you wanted to serve Jesus the rest of your life was baptized?
Or did you just get baptized because your parents wanted you to?Just asking
Marlin
Hi Marlin, thanks for asking. I have known Jesus since I was a young kid. My Friends (Foster Sisters and Brothers) and I all got Baptised together. So it was a good thing, I chose to. If I had the choice I would have.
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