Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #20044
    NickHassan
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    Hi kenrch,
    Perhaps we can learn from your humble spirit?

    #20045
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,22:04)
    Hi kenrch,
    Perhaps we can learn from your humble spirit?


    Nick don't try that double personality with me. That as plain as your pride. Sure your spirit will go and hide for awhile but you'll invite it back again and again. Where did your spirit go Nick? Couldn't take the light and ran!

    #20046
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (kenrch @ June 17 2006,22:09)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,22:04)
    Hi kenrch,
    Perhaps we can learn from your humble spirit?


    Nick don't try that double personality with me.  That as plain as your pride.  Sure your spirit will go and hide for awhile but you'll invite it back again and again.  Where did your spirit go Nick?  Couldn't take the light and ran!


    No one would be happier if that spirit stayed away! Lets see if you let it back in. I'll keep an eye out for it and let you know when it arrives.

    #20047
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi kenrch,
    Try to keep your focus on the Biblical Study and leave the personal attacks in the schoolyard.

    #20048
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,22:13)
    Hi kenrch,
    Try to keep your focus on the Biblical Study and leave the personal attacks in the schoolyard.


    I'm not attacking Nick i'm attacking the spirit of pride which seems to have hid itself for now. But it will be back.

    #20049
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Kenrch,
    You claim to know the mind and Spirit of God?

    If you did
    You would be wasting energy judging others.
    You would not be trying to be funny and amusing just yourself.
    You would not be depending on poor human logic to make your case.

    You would be attempting to show what you believe is in line with the teaching of Jesus and the apostles and prophets. Then we may know it is the Spirit of God that guides you and listen to you.

    Otherwise you are just the voice of another stranger teaching what is founded on his own understanding and claiming that understanding is inspired.

    #20050
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,22:23)
    Hi Kenrch,
    You claim to know the mind and Spirit of God?

    If you did
    You would be wasting energy judging others.
    You would not be trying to be funny and amusing just yourself.
    You would not be depending on poor human logic to make your case.

    You would be attempting to show what you believe is in line with the teaching of Jesus and the apostles and prophets. Then we may know it is the Spirit of God that guides you and listen to you.

    Otherwise you are just the voice of another stranger teaching what is founded on his own understanding and claiming that understanding is inspired.


    I never claimed to know the mind of God. I said you don't know the heart of God. And you certainly don't have His Spirit.

    Gee Nick you ever hear of the fruits of the Spirit well one of them is LOVE and your teaching has none .

    #20051
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (kenrch @ June 17 2006,22:33)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,22:23)
    Hi Kenrch,
    You claim to know the mind and Spirit of God?

    If you did
    You would be wasting energy judging others.
    You would not be trying to be funny and amusing just yourself.
    You would not be depending on poor human logic to make your case.

    You would be attempting to show what you believe is in line with the teaching of Jesus and the apostles and prophets. Then we may know it is the Spirit of God that guides you and listen to you.

    Otherwise you are just the voice of another stranger teaching what is founded on his own understanding and claiming that understanding is inspired.


    I never claimed to know the mind of God.  I said you don't know the heart of God.  And you certainly don't have His Spirit.

    Gee Nick you ever hear of the fruits of the Spirit well one of them is LOVE and your teaching has none .


    Love Nick if you had the unconditional Love of the Spirit than you would know the Heart of the Father. May be you should read some of what that spirit writes.

    #20052
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi kenrch,
    If the Love of God was unconditional for man then He would never havre sent His beloved Son to die for us to open up access to His Kingdom though him. The door to God was closed and all were lost. Now the only way to God is through being reborn into the Son.

    Jn 3.36
    ” He who believes in the Son has life; but he who does not OBEY the Son will not see life, but the WRATH OF GOD ABIDES ON HIM”

    Jesus paid the price of his life that we might live.

    His flesh was torn like the temple veil so that we might find forgiveness and that forgiveness comes through being born again of water and the new life of the indwelling Spirit. That is why we MUST be born again of water and the Spirit. New wine needs a new wineskin.

    Do not follow the accuser of the brethren kenrch because he is the god of this world.

    #20053
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,22:50)
    Hi kenrch,
    If the Love of God was unconditional for man then He would never havre sent His beloved Son to die for us to open up access to His Kingdom though him. The door to God was closed and all were lost. Now the only way to God is through being reborn into the Son.

    Jn 3.36
    ” He who believes in the Son has life; but he who does not OBEY the Son will not see life, but the WRATH OF GOD ABIDES ON HIM”

    Jesus paid the price of his life that we might live.

    His flesh was torn like the temple veil so that we might find forgiveness and that forgiveness comes through being born again of water and the new life of the indwelling Spirit. That is why we MUST be born again of water and the Spirit. New wine needs a new wineskin.

    Do not follow the accuser of the brethren kenrch because he is the god of this world.


    Every babe in Christ knows, has read and should believe the scriptures. You Nick are lacking the Holy Spirit. You know the scriptures so do the JWs. They too are void of the Holy Spirit.
    If you have the Love of the Spirit of God then you would not have such a foolish doctrine as “it is the water that cleanses you” and without the water you would not be saved. That is fleshly thinking. God is a Spirit worship Him in spirit and truth.

    Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
    Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
    Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
    Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    The way you think does not please God. Sorry but the scriptures are plain. You are physical. You should be a pharisee they knew the scripitures but they too were full of pride.

    This is why you should repent and let the Holy Spirit guide you. If you repent you surely will be forgiven and receive the Holy Spirit.

    #20054
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi Kenrch,
    You should learn more before you attempt to teach and rebuke kenrch.

    #20055
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,23:19)
    hi Kenrch,
    You should learn more before you attempt to teach and rebuke kenrch.


    Then teach me oh great one. But teach the truth and not your understanding using man's method. Worship God in Spirit and truth.

    Teach me the meaning of these scriptures oh great one.

    1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
    1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
    1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

    #20056
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi kenrch,
    You can't be speaking to me so hopefully a great one will give you the answer you seek.

    #20058
    kenrch
    Participant

    Oh come now Nick how many times has a brother or sister corrected you, but rather admit you are wrong you rattle off some words of wisdom or change the subject so the person has to go to search to try and get an answer.

    Are you afraid to tell what the scriptures are saying?

    #20060
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi kenrch,
    Grow up and try to concentrate on the task at hand, which is correctly dividing scripture, and not wasting time attacking me.

    #20061

    Nick, you need to behave. You think you know everything. That is pretty good for someone who is self taught in the church of Nick. You claim water baptism saves a man. We have proven that is a lie. Yet, you continue badgering this post with your philosophy of Nick. We quote scripture and you quote Nick. You need to find a church Nick. One that is filled with Holy Ghost filled believers raising Holy hands and singing praises to God Almighty.

    #20063
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,23:54)
    Hi kenrch,
    Grow up and try to concentrate on the task at hand, which is correctly dividing scripture, and not wasting time attacking me.


    See Nick you are avoiding the question.

    What are these scriptures saying?

    1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
    1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
    1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

    #20064
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 18 2006,00:01)
    Nick, you need to behave. You think you know everything. That is pretty good for someone who is self taught in the church of Nick. You claim water baptism saves a man. We have proven that is a lie. Yet, you continue badgering this post with your philosophy of Nick. We quote scripture and you quote Nick. You need to find a church Nick. One that is filled with Holy Ghost filled believers raising Holy hands and singing praises to God Almighty.


    Hi H,
    Your judgements continue while your own position is shown to be unsafe. Is that wise?

    #20065
    kenrch
    Participant

    Oh come on Nick What are these scriptures saying?

    Posted: June 18 2006,00:07

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,23:54)
    Hi kenrch,
    Grow up and try to concentrate on the task at hand, which is correctly dividing scripture, and not wasting time attacking me.

    See Nick you are avoiding the question.

    What are these scriptures saying?

    1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
    1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
    1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

    #20067
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi kenrch,
    Then show us that you are of the Spirit. While you preach opinion you are shown to be still of the world. When what you teach matches the Word of God we will know you are of the Spirit.

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