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TT,
The Holy Spirit does not belong to the Son, it is only 'loaned' to him while he carries out teh quest that has been set for him.
Jesus said: “I will pray to the father [for the Holy Spirit]…”.
Jesus has control of teh Holy Spirit because in it is the power necessary to carry out his task. It is a technical point only to say “it is his” – i.e. in relation to someone else:
Stranger on street side: “Wow Is a really powerful looking car – is it yours?”
Driver: “No, it belongs to my father – he let me have use of it to carry out my job”
Traffick Warden passing by: “Excuse me sir, is this your car?”
Driver: “Yes sir, why?”
Traffick Warden: “The road is blocked by people admiring it – can you move it along please!”TT
how come you never answer my questions,
i maybe dumb but not stupid or ignorant.what is the holy spirit ?
in my name ,this means that you can get something out from some body else on account of me.
NOT “WHIT MY AUTHORITY”
twisting ,grinding the scriptures.
TT is indeed playing with words – he has no where to go so it is his only outlet.
His back is against the wall so he can only parry arguments – not make valid ones.
He has already admitted that “his God” is a god of deception so what else can we expect from him.
He is ONE STEP AWAY from the ultimate fall so please be careful how you all push him.
Please to not be overzealous to beat him down with his flailling arguments because you will slip up and gain him a foot hold to thrust back at you – Present credible, well researched and contructed arguments that are as water-tight as you can make them:
– short as possible (so as not to stray into frivolous banter);
– sweet with truth;
– Holy Spirited blessed.FROM THE TESTATOR THREAD:
Marty said:
Quote But God gave everything that he created to Jesus, he said: 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Marty,You missed the part of Christ's statement inwhich He said that the Father would send the Spirit “in MY name” (or on My authority). Therefore, in the new covenant age truth is revealed according to Christ's own Sovereign will.
Supporting verse:
All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Matthew 11:27
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