If muhammad were a false prophet

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  • #349973
    Ed J
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    Muhammad said:  

    Quote (sura @ 69  44-46)
    44: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,
    45: We should certainly seize him by his right hand,
    46: And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:

    <!–QuoteEnd]Sahih al-Bukari, 4428:
    The prophet in his aliment in which he died,
    use to say “O Aishah! I still feel the pain of the food I ate at Khaibar,
    and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.

     
            This video examines all the FACTS concerning Muhammad's death

    Ed (witness)

    #349974
    Admin
    Keymaster

    I fixed your page Ed J.
    It had remnant code from a table in there and wasn't rendering correctly.

    #349975
    Ed J
    Participant

    OK, thanks. Yea it looked pretty screwed up.

    #350014
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Looks like another silly attempt, ED howabout making a single legitimate argument, I won't even bother watching this one
    but why was stephen killed?

    #350031
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Stephen didn't teach that a false prophet will have his aorta wasn't cut, Mohammed did according to the Qu'ran, (according to the video).

    At first I thought this guy was smug and was not going to bother listening. But I did and he makes 10 very good points in the video that you need to see Bod.

    #350080
    Ed J
    Participant

    #350091
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,09:14)


    EDJ.

    That was good information.
    The foretelling of the Messiah was fulfilled, at Jesus birth.

    wakeup.

    #350108
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ July 07 2013,14:04)
    Stephen didn't teach that a false prophet will have his aorta wasn't cut, Mohammed did according to the Qu'ran, (according to the video).

    At first I thought this guy was smug and was not going to bother listening. But I did and he makes 10 very good points in the video that you need to see Bod.


    It is silly because the Quran is stating that if Muhammad would try to write an untruth tht would happen, not if the complete work was already finished that wouldn't make much sense. But if you accept your viewpoint then you must accept ALL the Quran as true

    #350110
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,11:03)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,09:14)


    EDJ.

    That was good information.
    The foretelling of the Messiah was fulfilled, at Jesus birth.

    wakeup.


    James 4:7
    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    #350118
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.

    #350119
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?

    #350123
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
    ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.

    #350239
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)

    #350256
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)
    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


          “ye shall not fear other gods”   (2 Kings 17:37)

    #350261
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.

    #350363
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2013,14:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?

    #350378
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2013,14:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?


    Boditharta.

    Have you not heard that Mary has been appearing in
    itally;mexico; france(lourdes); healing and with a message of peace?

    Dont you know that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel
    and inspired him to write the book of mormon?
    Dont you know that Ellen white has been inspired by an angel, and saw visions. And started the Sda chuch,and split up into the jw's?

    She was found to dwell into spiritism?
    Let that be an example for us, not to dwell into new books
    inspired by angels.

    Because Satan also is a fallen cherub;and he has his prince's under him, each doing their job,to deceive the nations in many ways.

    wakeup.

    #350442
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2013,14:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?


    Boditharta.

    Have you not heard that Mary has been appearing in
    itally;mexico; france(lourdes); healing and with a message of peace?

    Dont you know that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel
    and inspired him to write the book of mormon?
    Dont you know that Ellen white has been inspired by an angel, and saw visions. And started the Sda chuch,and split up into the jw's?

    She was found to dwell into spiritism?
    Let that be an example for us, not to dwell into new books
    inspired by angels.

    Because Satan also is a fallen cherub;and he has his prince's under him, each doing their job,to deceive the nations in many ways.

    wakeup.


    I understand your point but the FRUIT of ISLAM is EVIDENT

    It is surpassng Christendom as the number 1 religion, THIS GOSPEL is BEING PREACHED to THE ENDS of THE EARTH.

    This is despite bad press, wars and rumors of wars.

    #350447
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    You know and I know that;
    Jesus did not teach angels;but 12 men,
    for his witnesses.

    wakeup.

    #350448
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,13:55)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    You know and I know that;
    Jesus did not teach angels;but 12 men,
    for his witnesses.

    wakeup.


    We are not far apart

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