If Jesus isn't God

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  • #26746
    Anonymous
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    It`s just more evidence that your a liar. Tisk, tisk.

    #26747
    Eliyah
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    Wished to God( DoG) that you`d take your own advise Nick. Wished to God( DoG) that you would.

    That does not sound logical Captain, maybe you should have Scotty beem you through to the other side of that vortex, then logically you might even still think that your ( DoG-GoD) would be on the other side of the vortex.

    Beam me through Scotty.

    I, I, Captain.

    #26748
    Anonymous
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    Hey flake, didn`t know that you are a blasphemer. Now i know.

    #26749
    Eliyah
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    It is logical that it is those who use the title names of god-gad-gawd-guwd-dog that are the blasphemers Captain and also those who worship satan the devil( Rev.9:20; Rev.13:3-4, verse 8) through his -satan's deception( Rev.12:9) in the latter days.

    It is very logical indeed that you fit that discription Captain Vortexsoxan .

    #26750
    Anonymous
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    hm-m-m, your nuts!

    #26751
    Eliyah
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    hm-m-m, your nuts!

    “” Stun Ruoy, Mmmmh””, That logically fits you Captain Vortexsoxan Kirk

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    It is logical that it is those who use the title names of god-gad-gawd-guwd-dog that are the blasphemers Captain and also those who worship satan the devil( Rev.9:20; Rev.13:3-4, verse 8) through his -satan's deception( Rev.12:9) in the latter days.

    Who is logically using those Blasphemous title names of ” gad-god-gawd-guwd-“” ?
    It is very logical indeed that you fit that discription Captain Vortexsoxan Kirk

    Beam him up Scotty, he needs doc bones to give him a quick fix.

    #26752
    david
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    Eliyah are you trying to out crazy him (with all this star trek stuff). I've often thought that the best way to deal with someone who has no sense of anything, logic, scripture or otherwise, is to do as you're sort of doing–Act crazy, like them. Throw completely insane arguments back at them. Although it's fun, it really doesn't lead anywhere though. You will not get very far with Soxan, as it's questionable whether he even owns a Bible, much less knows what the words mean. His parents tell him to believe in the trinity. He never questioned it. He has yet to put a scripture down, or even the thought of a scripture, or even to acknowledge the existence of the Bible. I'm going to devote my words to more favorable things.

    david.

    #26753
    Anonymous
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    David your a liar, its that simple! David you can`t ask flake to stop acting crazy, its not an act. I`ve said it before[all joking aside] he needs medical help.

    #26754
    Eliyah
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    David, I was merely kidding him because he first appeared Captain Kirk's Picture, then he suddenly changed it, and the name of ” Captain ” kinda stuck with him.

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    David your a liar, its that simple! David you can`t ask flake to stop acting crazy, its not an act. I`ve said it before[all joking aside] he needs medical help.

    As for you Captain, it would be more logical for you to look at yourself in a mirror, then you will see just where you need medical help.

    #26755
    Proclaimer
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    Remember when we insult each other we are saying to the face of one who created in HIS image. The fact that we are a fallen race doesn't excuse insulting God's creation.

    Matthew 25:40
    “The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

    Therefore it is better to bless one another. The truth is one form of blessing, and even if it is not accepted, we should reserve judgement for the judge.

    #26756
    NickHassan
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    More thoughts on Jesus as man.

    #26757
    malcolm ferris
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    The question that was asked is :

    If Jesus isn't God then how can we be saved…

    How could God stop the sun in its track?
    How could God deliver Israel from the oncoming Egyptians at the Red sea?
    How did God make the world?
    How did God stop the rain from falling in the days of Elijah?

    God did all of these things, He delivered Israel out of the land of Egypt.
    How? He said to Moses “I have heard the cry of my people and I have come down to answer that cry and I am sending you!”

    Jesus Christ was also sent by his Father…

    God cannot die, He is eternal, if he died He would not be eternal
    He is immortal, that means never dying – if He died this would not be true either.
    God is invisible, if He ever was seen – this would not be true either…

    Yet Jesus says “If you see me you see Him” – what is going on here?
    Is God a liar? No – noone has seen God in truth, God is a Spirit.
    Yet you can see a form that God declares Himself in…
    He was seen in former times in the form of a pillar of fire by day and a cloud by night.
    Then He was seen fully manifest – in the flesh of His only begotten Son.
    Today He seen is in His Church (the true one that is) a many membered body.
    In every case He was hidden behind a form that was not Him, it represented Him…

    #26758
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Malcolm,
    So you are saying why be Almighty God and have to work yourself?
    I agree.
    God does all His work through others and the work of bringing salvation from Him to us was given to His only begotten and beloved Son.

    #26759
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (yes2truth @ Oct. 25 2005,19:53)
    I think you are saying in a human reasoned sort of way that Jesus is not God made flesh and that you are also saying there is only one God. Am I correct?

    By human reasoning I mean you are not accepting the fact that they were always two as explained by Deut 6:4 i.e. Jesus God with Father God.  Melchisedec was Our Lord in the flesh and He also appeared in the flesh to Abraham before destroying Sodom

    Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    He was worshipped by the angels – only God can be worshipped.


    Hi,
    Melchisedek was a man, a priest of God.
    God is not a man, even a great man;
    Heb 7.4
    ” Now observe how great this MAN was to whom Abraham, the patriach, gave a tenth of the choicest spoils”

    He is a man that said in Gen 14.19
    “Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth, and blessed be God most High.'”

    He praised God.
    He was not that God that he praised.

    #30296
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi henoch,
    more

    #111947
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (malcolm ferris @ April 12 2006,23:56)
    The question that was asked is :

    If Jesus isn't God then how can we be saved…

    How could God stop the sun in its track?
    How could God deliver Israel from the oncoming Egyptians at the Red sea?
    How did God make the world?
    How did God stop the rain from falling in the days of Elijah?

    God did all of these things, He delivered Israel out of the land of Egypt.
    How? He said to Moses “I have heard the cry of my people and I have come down to answer that cry and I am sending you!”

    Jesus Christ was also sent by his Father…

    God cannot die, He is eternal, if he died He would not be eternal
    He is immortal, that means never dying – if He died this would not be true either.
    God is invisible, if He ever was seen – this would not be true either…

    Yet Jesus says “If you see me you see Him” – what is going on here?
    Is God a liar? No – noone has seen God in truth, God is a Spirit.
    Yet you can see a form that God declares Himself in…
    He was seen in former times in the form of a pillar of fire by day and a cloud by night.
    Then He was seen fully manifest – in the flesh of His only begotten Son.
    Today He seen is in His Church (the true one that is) a many membered body.
    In every case He was hidden behind a form that was not Him, it represented Him…


    Nice post you made back in 2006 Malcolm.

    #111957
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8……I also agree with Malcolm……God is seen in the things He CREATES. For the invisible things of GOD are known by the things created. God IS A SPIRIT and must be worshiped in Spirit and truth.

    Peace to you and yours…………….gene

    #111973
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (yes2truth @ Oct. 24 2005,03:00)
    If not, how can anyone be saved?


    Hi:

    These scriptures may anwer your questions:

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    2Cr 5:18 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

    2Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

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    Hbr 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

    Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

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    Jhn 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

    Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    Jhn 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

    Jhn 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

    Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

    Jhn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

    Without the blood to wash away our sins there is no way to be saved.

    God Bless

    #111981
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi 94,
    Is God not Sovereign anymore?

    #112012
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2008,08:04)
    Hi 94,
    Is God not Sovereign anymore?


    Hi Nick:

    This is what the world of God states:

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    Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    God is Sovereign but He is true to the Word that He speaks.

    And so, What do you mean by your question? Do you not believe the Word of God? It is God who is speaking through His Son.

    God Bless

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