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Hosea 12:8 & 14 Ephraim says: I have become wealthy, I have made my fortune, [Isaiah 2:7] now that I am rich and powerful, no fault will be found in me. But Ephraim has provoked the Lord to anger. They will suffer for the blood they have shed and be punished for their contempt. [contempt for true, righteous living.] Ezekiel 13:1-23, 1 Peter 4:17-18
Ephraim: the leader of the ten Northern tribes of Israel, is now represented by all the Christians in the Western nations, complacent in their comfortable situation and confident about their salvation. Isaiah 29:13
Hosea 8:14 Israel and Judah have forgotten their Maker, they build beautiful houses and cities. They have great strength, but the Lord will send fire to devour those cities and consume their military strength. Hosea 5:10-11
Amos 2:4-5 …I shall send fire upon Judah… Jeremiah 12:14
Amos 2:13-15 Listen: I groan under the burden of you, [includes all Israel, Isaiah 46:3] as a wagon creaks with a full load. Flight will be cut off for the swift, the strong will not muster their strength and the warrior will not save himself. Even the bravest of warriors will throw away his weapons and flee on that Day. Isaiah 21:3
Isaiah 33:10-12 Now I shall arise! I shall exult Myself and display My power. My enemies will be as chaff, as stubble when the fiery blast hits them. Whole nations will become heaps of white ash, flaring up and consumed like weeds thrown into a furnace. Malachi 4:1, Hebrews 10:27
Ref: REB. Some verses abridged
Extreme stuff! But we can’t say that we are not warned: Isaiah 24:1-6, Isaiah 34:1-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:10 and about 100 other prophecies that graphically describe the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. It will be a judgement/punishment by fire, a worldwide event in the magnitude of Noah’s flood, another ‘Reset of Civilization’, wiping out large numbers of humanity. Jeremiah 9:22, Isaiah 66:16
At the same time, the Lord will judge His people: 1 Peter 4:12 & 17, 1 Cor. 3:13-15. We are told to humble ourselves and place our trust in the Lord for our rescue and redemption. Psalm 34:8-9, Isaiah 30:15, Ezekiel 34:12
THE LORDS WRATH – how will it happen?
This much prophesied, still to come, Lords Day of vengeance and wrath, will happen on the Appointed Day. Habakkuk 2:3 People think there may be a nuclear exchange, but what is more certain is what the prophets say:
Jeremiah 50:25 The Lord opens His armoury and brings forth the weapons of His wrath, for this is His work to be done in the lands of the godless peoples.
Isaiah 34:5 For My sword appears in heaven, it descends in judgement.
Psalms 11:6 The Lord is in heaven, raining fiery coals onto the wicked.
Isaiah 66:15-16 See, the Lord is coming in fire, like a whirlwind. He will judge with fire, His sword will test mankind and many will be slain by Him.
Isaiah 33:10-12 Now; I shall arise, says the Lord, I will exalt Myself. You will be as chaff and stubble, a wind like fire will consume you. Whole nations will be heaps of white ash, like thorns cut down and set on fire.
Psalms 144:5-6 Lord, part the heavens. Make lightning flashes far and wide.
Isaiah 30:30 Then the Lord will make His voice heard in majesty…descending in fierce anger with devouring flames of fire amid storms and hail.
Jeremiah 30:23-24 See what a scorching wind has gone out from God, a sweeping whirlwind which whirls around the heads of the wicked. The Lords fierce anger is not to be turned aside until He has fully accomplished His purposes.
In Days to come you will understand.
Isaiah 29:5-6 Yet, the horde of Your enemies will crumble into dust, fly away like chaff. Suddenly in an instant punishment will come from the Lord, with storms, thunder, earthquakes and great noise and a flame of devouring fire.
Isaiah 9:19 The land is scorched by the Lord, the people are like fuel for the fire.
Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, its Holy One a flame, which, in one day will burn up and consume His thorns and briars.
Isaiah 30:26 On the Day that the Lord saves His people, the sun will shine with seven times its usual brightness and the moon will be as bright as the sun.
See; the Lord comes from afar, His anger blazing and His doom heavy. His lips are charged with wrath and His tongue is a devouring fire. His breath is like a torrent in spate. He sieves out the nations for destruction. Isaiah 63:1-6What these (and many other) prophecies say, is a description of sunspot activity.
The Lord will use the sun to send out a huge, earth directed Coronal Mass Ejection. It will happen very suddenly and unexpectedly, striking earth firstly with an Electro-Magnetic Pulse that will cause armed weapons to explode, Psalms 7:12-16, then the main mass will arrive 24 hours later, causing enormous damage and deaths worldwide. Jeremiah 25:33
All electrical and communications systems, industry, transport, the military, could be destroyed, or at least severely damaged. Our civilization would be back to 1800’s technology.To all
In the days of the early church, the Jews persecuted the apostles and their followers. They believed these first evangelists were blasphemers who were trying to overthrow the religion that God had established. Notice, “They also set up false witnesses who said, ‘This man [Stephen] does not cease to speak blasphemous words against this holy place and the law; for we have heard him say this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and change the customs which Moses delivered to us’ ” (Acts 6:13, 14). In the next chapter, we learn that he was killed for speaking out (Acts 7:54–60).
The same thing will happen in our day. The end-time coalition of world governments and religions will finally lose all sympathy for God’s people, who refuse to join a worldwide counterfeit revival. They will feel that the stunning miracles accompanying their revival prove its validity—miracles such as the sick being healed or notorious God-haters, immoral movie stars, drug lords, and well-known criminals being converted.
The church and state partnership will insist that no one be permitted to wreck this worldwide revival, which is drawing in all religions. Everyone will be urged to lay aside personal feelings and “fanatical teachings” (the Sabbath, for example) and join with the rest of the world in its sincere revival for peace and brotherhood. Everything other than the revival will be considered minor.
Those who do not agree to cooperate will be considered disloyal, unpatriotic, anarchists and, finally, dangerous fanatics who must not be tolerated. In that day, those who kill God’s people will feel they are doing God a favor. Just as the Jews once thought to do God a favor by killing those who opposed their religious beliefs, so in the last days, there will rise up a fierce opposition to people who remain true to God and the Bible.
KEY BIBLE TEXTS
“They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.”
John 16:2Keras……Make sure you don’t get the return of Jesus Christ , mixed up with the return of GOD THE FATHER. They are two completely different events, most everything people say about the return of Jesus is actually the return of God the Father. Which takes place a thousand years after Jesus ‘ return.please see what I wrote on the timeline of Rev 17 :10, and how it ties to Dan 2:31,
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
[2] Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
[3] We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;
[4] So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
[5] Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
[6] Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
[10] When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.[11] Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
[12] That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.Gene
It is Jesus who is returning soon to punish the wicked and reward the saints in heaven.
Judgment of the wicked will take place in heaven (1000 years)
Then New Jerusalem will descend from heaven (God, Christ, angels and all saints)
And the executive judgment will take place and then the new heavens and the new earth where righteousness will dwell.
This is the Truth very summed upIl Thess. I
, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
[10] When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.MATHEW 24
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
[31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.1Thess . 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.Phi.3:20
For our citizenship is in heaven; from whence also we wait for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Rev.22
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and mayenter in through the gates into the city.
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Berean…….there are two different commings one is the lord (human ruler), Jesus the anointed man, and the other is the comming of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. Which takes place at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saint’s. When Jesus offers up his kingdom to God the Father.
Jesus never spoke of his return as burning up this whole earth, that a false assumption, from those who think Jesus is Almighty God. “Trinitarians”.
Jesus said clearly what his return was going to be like and it had nothing as I recall about a fiery return. But it does indicate there will be a roaring of the seas, possible Hugh tussmies that could destory millions of people at least give them heart atacks, And the powers of heaven would be shaken. But the rest I think, your mixing up with when God the Father returns.
Peter also was talking of the return of God the Father, when the ferment will melt. Then God the Father Creates all thing new again, a new heaven and a new earth for the former thing have passed away.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
AFTER MILLENIUM
Rev.3
[12] Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God,which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name
Gene
You
“Jesus never spoke of his return as burning up this whole earth, that a false assumption, from those who think Jesus is Almighty God. “Trinitarians”.
Me
You read not well
2 Thess.1 :6-10
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us,when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destructio from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
[10] When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.IN REVELATION 19
ONE ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE JESUS’S RETURN
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
[12] His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
[13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
[14] And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
[15] And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
[16] And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
[17] And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
[18] That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
[19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
[21] And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.HOW MANY LIVING PEOPLE REMAIN THERE?
ANYCOMPARE REVELATION 19
WITH
REVELATION 6
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?THE ANSWER IS IN CHAPTER 7
THOSE WHO WILL BE ALIVE AT THE RETURN OF JESUS ARE THE 144,000
ALSO, THERE WILL BE THE DEAD IN CHRIST WHO WILL RISE ON HIS NEXT RETURN
TOGETHER THEY WILL GO TO MEET THE LORD JESUS TO BE ALWAYS WITH HIM.
The glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign, is not the Sixth Seal event. To conflate them is to shuffle Revelation. Not advisable.
Much must happen between the terrible Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath and His Return. Revelation 6:12 to Rev 19:10
The only dead in Christ, who will be brought back to life when Jesus returns, are the martyrs of the Great Trib. Revelation 20:4. ALL the rest remain in the grave until the GWT Judgment after the Millennium Revelation 20:11-15
What the OP of this thread is about, is to warn all who will listen about the next prophesied event, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. We must stand firm in our faith during that terrible time.
DANIEL 9 IS ALREADY COMPLETED
THE 490 YEARS (-457 BC …. 34 AD)THESE 490 YEARS ARE PART OF THE 2300 YEARS OF DANIEL 8:14
THEY ARE THE BEGINNING457.BC …….. 27AD … 31AD..34AD ……………………….. 1844AD
TRUE PROTESTANTS PROTESTED AND STILL PROTEST AGAINST ABUSES AND PAPAL’S DOCTRINAL ERRORS
BELIEVING THAT THE SIXTY-TENTH WEEK OF DANIEL 9 RELATES TO THE END TIME IS A RUSE OF THE JESUITS TO DIVER THE ATTENTION OF CHRISTIANS FROM THE TRUE ANTI CHRIST (PAPALITY).
(1260 years old … 538 AD … 1798AD)
IN FACT THE LAST WEEK STARTS WITH THE BAPTISM OF MESSIAH (27 AD AND ENDS WITH THE LAPIDATION OF ETIENNE (34 AD)
THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK IDENTIFIES THE DEATH ON THE CROSS OF MESSIAH
THIS IS IN FACT THE CENTRAL POINT OF THIS PROPHECY.
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: ….. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, …KERAS. YOU MUST BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THIS ESSENTIAL PROPHECY, FAULT OF WHAT … YOU WILL COME TO FALSE INTERPRETATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS, AND MISLEAD OTHERS.
2 Timothy 3:12 say
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
THESE 490 YEARS ARE PART OF THE 2300 YEARS OF DANIEL 8:14
THEY ARE THE BEGINNING457.BC …….. 27AD … 31AD..34AD ……………………….. 1844AD Quote Berean
This shows your SDA beliefs. The nonsense of anything of any significance happening in 1844 and the wrong rendering of the 2300 evenings and mornings. Which is only 1150 actual days; fulfilled in 167 to 164 BC.
I don’t know anything about the Jesuits, maybe they did get something correct!
We await the 70th ‘week’, the final seven years of this age. Going to be a very interesting time!
Antichrist and Daniel 9:27
“He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” (Dan.9.27)
Daniel 9:24‑26 (NKJV) says “Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty‑two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times. And after the sixty‑two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.”
Using the day for a year principle, the first 69 weeks (or 483 years) reached to the first coming of Jesus Christ who died in the middle of the “one week” remaining.
Naming of Papacy as Antichrist. During the Protestant reformation those who studied such Bible prophecies came to the conclusion that there was one entity that fits all the characteristics: the Papal dynasty of the Roman Catholic Church. They saw the antichrist was not merely a single individual, but was a system of apostasy and persecution that would rule for more than twelve centuries. The Roman Church was violently opposed to the scriptures being available for everyone to read for themselves. There was such a stir created during the Reformation that the Fifth Lateran Council (1512‑17 A.D.) resorted to strictly forbidding anyone to publish a book without prior censorship, and also prohibited anyone from preaching on the subject of antichrist. Therefore as part of the Counter Reformation Roman theologians sought to place antichrist in the future or the past.
Preterist thought. Preterism sought to place the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation in the past. Luis del Alcazar (1554‑1613), a Spanish Jesuit theologian identified the antichrist as Nero. Nero was the Roman Emperor from 54 to 68 A.D. His persecution of the church is believed to account for the deaths of Peter, Paul, Erastus, Aristarchus of Macedonia, Trophimus and Ananias of Damascus amongst others. This fits well with the destruction of Jerusalem and the second Temple by the Romans in A.D.70.
Ribera and the futurist view. For his part of Papacy’s counter‑attack to Protestantism, another Spanish Jesuit Francisco Ribera (1537‑1591) wrote a prophecy also with the purpose of diverting the attention off the Roman Catholic Church after they had been identified as Antichrist during the Reformation. Ribera therefore chose to look at the 70 weeks of the Daniel prophecy to find another way of looking at those scriptures. The following is how he interpreted the 70th week of Daniel. Ribera’s futurism puts the Antichrist into a future three and a half literal years. So in Daniel’s 70 week prophecy, there is the 7 weeks plus 62 weeks which leaves “one week” left, otherwise known as the famous “70th week of Daniel.” Again, that somewhat controversial text literally reads: Daniel 9.27 “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease”. The Futurist theory states that the Antichrist is yet to appear and will be unveiled in the last 3.5 years of Daniel’s 70th week when he declares himself to be God in a rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem.
The Pro‑rapture view looks at this as a seven year period of tribulation. The idea is that while the first 70 weeks (or 483 years) did reach to the first coming of Jesus Christ, the prophetic clock had stopped because the Jewish people largely rejected Him. Then they slide the 70th week of Daniel (the last seven years) all the way down to the end times, call it the tribulation and say it applies to the Jewish people after the overcoming class are gone. Rapture teachers interpret Daniel 9:27 as follows:
“He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week.” “He” is the antichrist who will make a covenant (or peace treaty) with the Jews during the seven years of tribulation. “In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” In the middle of the seven year tribulation, the antichrist will break his covenant, turn against Israel, and stop the animal sacrifices. The phrase, “he shall cause the sacrifice…to cease” is viewed as irrefutable proof that a Jewish Temple will be rebuilt on the Temple Mount inside Jerusalem.
One Protestant writer stated: “It is a matter for deep regret that those who hold and advocate the Futurist system at the present day, Protestants as they are for the most part, are this really playing into the hands of Rome, and helping to screen the Papacy from detection as the Antichrist. It has been well said that ‘Futurism tends to obliterate the brand put by the Holy Spirit upon Popery.’ More especially is this to be deplored at a time when the Papal Antichrist seems to be making an expiring effort to regain his former hold on men’s minds.” (Joseph Tanner)
Both interpretations put antichrist outside the Middle Ages and the reformation period identified by Protestant historicists as the 1,260 prophetic year reign of antichrist.
Modern view. Author Hal Lindsey in his “The Late Great Planet Earth” (1970) book reflects this current view when he writes about “God’s last seven years of dealing with the Jewish people before the long awaited setting up of the kingdom of God (Daniel 9.27).” (The Late Great Planet Earth, p.46) According to H.A. Lindsay, during those seven years “the Antichrist, breaks his covenant with the Jewish people and causes the Jewish temple worship, according to the Law of Moses, to cease (Daniel 9:27). We must conclude that a third Temple will be rebuilt upon its ancient site in old Jerusalem.” (Ibid)
The majority of Bible scholars have not applied Daniel 9:27 to a seven year tribulation period at all. Neither have they interpreted the “he” as referring to a future antichrist as many do today. Instead, they applied it to Jesus Christ. From Genesis to Revelation there is not one passage that specifically mentions a seven year period of tribulation at all neither will you find it any concordance. The entire theory is based on a speculative interpretation of two little words in one single verse. That text is Daniel 9:27 and the two little words are, “one week.”
Prophecy minded Christians all over the world often engage in a fierce debate about whether Jesus Christ will return for His Church before the seven years of tribulation (the “pre‑tribulation” view), in the midst of the seven years (the “mid‑tribulation” view), or at the end of the seven years (the “post‑tribulation” view). Yet is an end time “seven‑year period of tribulation” even taught in the Bible at all?
The following points suggest that Daniel’s famous 70th week prophecy has no application to a future seven year tribulation at all. Rather, this great prophetic period of Daniel’s 70 weeks is a Messianic prophecy that was fulfilled nearly two thousand years ago.
Logic dictates that “seventy weeks” refers to one consecutive block of seventy straight sequential weeks. There is no example in Scripture of a stated time period starting stopping, and then starting again. All biblical references to time are consecutive: 40 days and 40 nights (Gen.7:4). 400 years in Egypt (Gen.15:13) and 70 years of captivity (Dan.9:2). In Daniel’s prophecy, the “seventy weeks” were to begin during the reign of Persia from the command to restore and build Jerusalem and continue to the time of the Messiah.
Messiah and not the Antichrist is the focus of the prophecy and the destruction of the city and the sanctuary relates to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in A.D.70.
The (New) “covenant” was confirmed by Jesus Christ by his blood. (Matt.26:28). Nowhere is there a covenant in the Bible between the Antichrist and anyone.
The sacrifice ceased “in the midst of the week” at the moment of his death when “the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom” signifying that animal sacrifices ceased to be of value after Jesus’ perfect sacrifice.
There is no mention of a rebuilt Jewish temple in Daniel 9.
The prophecy worded by Gabriel is specifically applied to the Jewish people (v.24). Jesus ministered to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” for 3.5 years. (Matt.10:6) Then for another 3.5 years the Gospel was preached mainly to them before Paul became the “apostle to the Gentiles” and Peter’s vision (Acts 10). This ended the 70th week.
A look at history from the days of the Protestant Reformation shows that once the established Roman Church realized that they were being pointed at as the Antichrist they then set about proffering an alternative view of the scriptures. Luis Del Alcazar’s preterist view placed them in the first two centuries. Francisco Ribera, also a Spanish Jesuit, placed it away from the Middle Ages to a time future from when he was writing. Nevertheless the futurist view is still discussed by students of the Bible in the 20th and 21st Centuries, such as writer like Hal Lindsay. However there are reasons why there are other interpretations of that passage are still as valid as they were in the Protestant Reformation.Quote: Using the day for a year principle, the first 69 weeks (or 483 years) reached to the first coming of Jesus Christ who died in the middle of the “one week” remaining. Quote Berean
Firstly, the ‘day for a year’ should not be used unless specifically stated. It is in Ezekiel 4:4-6, and in Daniels prophecy of the 70 ‘weeks’, we know he refers to 70 x 7 years = 490 years total.
Jesus was ‘cut off’ after the 69th ‘week’, that is after 483 years, After; means at the completion of, NOT 3 1/2 years later.
Then your belief that there was exactly 3 1/2 years until Peter had his ‘cornucopia’ vision, is an unsupportable guess, just made to fit the wrong theory of the final 7 years being past history.
However this thread is about the next prophesied event; the Sixth Seal. The second half of the final 7 years will come later and will happen all as described in Revelation 8:1 to Rev 19:11
Keras
you
Jesus was ‘cut off’ after the 69th ‘week’, that is after 483 years, After; means at the completion of, NOT 3 1/2 years later.
me
It is not written “AT THE END OF” 483 years
BUT “AFTER”483 years
SO WE HAVE
457 BC DECREE (v.25a)
+ 483 = YEAR 27 AD = ANOINTING OF JESUS = BIGINING OF THE SEVENTIETH WEEK
THAT IS THE CONFIRMATION OF “the covenant with many for one week:”
WHO CONFIRM THIS COVENANT FOR ONE WEEK ?
JESUS CHRIST
IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A QUESTION IN DANIEL9
THAT AN ANTI CHRIST CONFIRM A COVENANT DURING A WEEK (SEVEN YEARS)
HERE IN DANIEL 9: 26,27 GOD PROPHETIZES WHAT JESUS WILL DO FOR A LOT.
AND BECAUSE OF THE REJECTION OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL FROM THIS COVENANT, THE DISASTERS WOULD FALL ON THIS PEOPLETHIS IS SAID IN VERSES (26 b)…and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;…
And AFTER threescore and two weeks(in the midst of the week) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: (WHICH IS THE YEAR 31AD)
THE YEAR 34 IS THE END OF THE SEVENTIETH WEEK THAT MARKS THE TIME GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL : “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city“
GOD’S PURPOSE IN GIVING THESE 70 WEEKS WERE:
” to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation(AT THE CROSS) for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”
to make reconciliation for iniquity,
Heb.2
[17] Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.to bring in everlasting righteousness,
Pss.119
[142] Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.to be continued if God wants
Keras
You
Then your belief that there was exactly 3 1/2 years until Peter had his ‘cornucopia’ vision, is an unsupportable guess, just made to fit the wrong theory of the final 7 years being past history.
Me
I don’t know what you are talking about.
can you explain to me ?DANIEL 9 IS ALREADY COMPLETED
THE 490 YEARS (-457 BC …. 34 AD)457.BC …….. 27AD … 31AD..34AD
457 BC DECREE (v.25a)
+ 483 = YEAR 27 AD = ANOINTING OF JESUS = BIGINING OF THE SEVENTIETH WEEK
Hi Berean,
This is spot on:
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching
the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled,
and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
(Mark 1:14-15)The time is fulfilled = the 483 years were completed
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God bless
Ed J
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