How is Allah different from YHVH of the OT/Same God

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  • #796076
    bodhitharta
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    Hi Nick

    Hi BD,

    So you have no assurance that the way you have designed will save you from the wrath of God?

    Those who endure to the end shall be saved

    #796077
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Indeed the believers will.

    #796236
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    We do not listen to strangers bringing news of strange new gods and new teachers.

    The fruit of bondage and harsh law making men subservient to men

    and hateful and bloodthirsty ways is totally unattractive.

    #796237
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Jude 4

    “..for there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of God into laviciousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ”

     

    Islam is ungodliness.

    #796239
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Jude 4

    “..for there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of God into laviciousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ”

    Islam is ungodliness.

    Certain men crept in where? Islam wasn’t founded yet so where did these men creep in?

    #796248
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    The attacks by the god of this world began as soon as the Shepherd was struck.

    Centuries later it was open season for the false prophets and false teachers

    #796253
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Where did they creep in it sounds like it is talking about inside it’s own religion

    #796254
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Into the community-wolves in sheeps’s clothing.

    #796256
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Your god is not our God.

    A weak imitation.

    #796281
    bodhitharta
    Participant


    @Nick

    Hi BD,

    Into the community-wolves in sheeps’s clothing.

    Which community? You seem to not understand what the term wolf in sheeps clothing means, obviously it would mean someone that appears to be no different than you such as a Christian entering a Christian community with the idea of subverting Christian theology but it would not mean a Muslim entering a Christian community as a Muslim

    #796283
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    By their fruit you will know them.

    Those who love God show respect and do not attack Him and His servants and His teachings.

     

    #796301
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Hi Nick

    Hi BD,

    By their fruit you will know them.

    Those who love God show respect and do not attack Him and His servants and His teachings.

    I hope one day you will open your eyes Hi BD,

    1 Peter 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

    Exodus 32:27
    And he said unto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

    #796306
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Yes we know about the wrath of God.

    But your role of administering it seems to have a less than certain basis.

     

     

    best to be in the household of God where His mercy can be expected.

    #796312
    942767
    Participant

    Hi BD:

    I said that I would answer your comments line by line, but the only thing that really matters is this:

    How can you say Allah and YHVH are the same God if YHVH states that He gave His uniquely begotten Son to be the propitiation for the sins of mankind in order to reconcile to Himself whosoever would come to Him with a repentant heart believing what God has done for him by virtue of this sacrifice, and also, YHVH states that His Son obeyed Him without sin unto death on the cross, and He raise him from the dead to eternal life and exalted him to His right hand as Lord of all creation, and to be the judge of the living and dead, and you say that Allah denies these statements?

    Tell me how can they possibly be the same God?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #796313
    942767
    Participant

    The God of the OT, and the God of the NT are the same God, and so, what has been stated in my last response remains true. The God of the OT in Isaiah 53 states:

    Isaiah 53 King James Version (KJV)

    53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

    2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

    3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

    4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #796329
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Jude 4

    “..for there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of God into laviciousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ”

    Islam is ungodliness.

    Certain men crept in where? Islam wasn’t founded yet so where did these men creep in?

    Hi BD,

    Then you agree that Abraham did not practice islam right?

    #796332
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Then you agree that Abraham did not practice islam right?

    Of course every believer practices Islam, you seem to think of Islam as an ethnicity or nationality but it is more like saying what was the way of life for Abraham did he come to God in complete submission and have peace with God? This is Islam it is a way of living the way Jesus lived and taught…if you push your racism and superiority complexes aside you start understanding BASIC meanings. what is Agua what is Ho Theos…do you comprehend?

    What is Shalom or Salaam ….can you comprehend are you still stuck at the tower of Babylon, have you not figured out yet that we all speak different languages and your confusion is you believe your language is the most important but that’s strange because you look to the greek and hebrew and even Aramaic to even know what the bible says…what a joke…I will agree on one thing you don’t behave like a Muslim or a faithful Christian…you don’t submit to God

    #796338
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    I am not so sure that Abraham would be as proud of you as you think.

    Others claimed to be sons of Abraham too.

     

    Start obeying God.

    Those who have the Son have the Father also.

    #796372
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Start obeying God.

    Those who have the Son have the Father also.

    Those who have God have Christ

    John 14:1
    Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    notice He didn’t say Father or son there….you just don’t get it but I pray you will at some point.

    #796374
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Should you dissect out from scripture what tastes good to you?

    It makes you your own god.

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