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Hello, I came across one of my Husband Article of Heaven and Hell. It is really long, but it is interesting and so much truth in it, I hope you will read it all. The rest of the Article I will put on another post.
HEAVEN and HELL
Are two places that are on every once mind at some time or another, mainly because we are reminded of them almost every Sunday in church. We are promised that if we repent of our sins and except Jesus as our personal Lord and Savior, we will go to heaven; and if we don’t, we will end up in hell. But that would only be true if the Bible says so. The question is, does it? Lets find out first of all.
Where is heaven?
Gen. 1:8 “ And God called the firmament Heaven…”
Then what is heaven?
Is. 66:1 “, …the heaven is my throne…”
Mat. 5:34 “ But I say unto you, swear not at all, neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne.”
And finally, is anyone going there?
I think it is important to note what Jesus told the Apostles, and all the people.
John 7:34 “Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come.”
John 8:21 “Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.”
I think that is quite plain, where Jesus was going, back to heaven, because that is where he was from; we could not go. He even said it twice. So why are we constantly being told that is where we will go? God did not create heaven for us, and Christ will not rule from heaven; his throne will be right here on earth.
Rev. 5:10 “ And hast made us (the saints) unto our God kings and priests; and we shall reign (with Christ) on the earth.”
Heaven is a place, it is the place of God’s throne; a throne is a symbol of power and authority and heaven above is thee place of all power and authority. There are also heavens on earth; they are places of religious authority; every church is a heaven, Paul says in,
Eph. 2:6 “And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.”
Heavenly does not mean heaven. Have you ever come back from a vacation and said, “Oh, it was heavenly?” A heavenly place can be some once home, or a church, because you talk about God, you read the word of God, things of heaven. What you do is you like to compare it to heaven, because we all like to think of heaven as a beautiful place. Also note that it says, places, plural as in many. The most recognized heaven on earth is the Vatican.
Ps. 50:4 “He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth that he may judge his people.”
He calls “to the heavens” from above. God calls to the heavens, churches, here on earth from his heaven above.
And is hell a literal place of torment, somewhere below us? Thank God it is not. The word “hell” comes from an old English word and means nothing more then a hole in the ground. After all, isn’t that where we bury the dead, in a grave? That is what hell is, a grave. The mistake is being made when we are told we have a soul that cannot die; and if you are not “saved”, you will burn in hell forever. The fact is, we are a soul,
Gen. 2:7 “ And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.”
This is exactly what Job is saying,
Job 33:4 “The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty has given me life.”
The breath is what gave man life, not a soul. Anything that has the breath of life is a soul including all animals. And even if we had a soul, how do you explain that?
Ezek. 18:20 “ The soul that sinneth, it shall die…”
Mat. 10:28 “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Is. 29:8 “It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold , he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul has appetite:…”
Can your “soul” hunger for food, or thirst for drink? Or is it your body that does? If you believe you have a soul, you have to believe it can be destroyed; that is what Jesus was saying, and Paul says.
Rom. 6:23 “ For the wages of sin is death…”
Death is the opposite of life; you stop breathing, and you stop living.
Ps. 104:29 “Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled, thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.”
Eccl. 3:19 “For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man has no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.”
v. 20 “All go unto one place, all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.”
Eccl. 9:5 “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.”
Ps. 6:5 “For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?”
Ps. 88:10 “Wilt thou show wonders to the dead? Shall the dead arise and praise thee?”
v. 11 “Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? Or thy faithfulness in destruction?”
v. 12 “Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? And thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?”
Ps. 115:17 “The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.”
There is nothing in these scriptures that give even a hind that anything of you remains alive or conscious, when you’re dead. You cannot have light and dark in the same room at the same time, or hot and cold in the same cup at the same time, etc. etc.; neither can you be dead and alive at the same time. There is nothing immortal about us or in us. Nowhere in the bible will you find that when the body dies the “soul” lives on.
It is obvious that no one is aware, that claiming our “soul” is indestructible is an insult to God. We are limiting God by saying, he can’t destroy us, any part of us. We are God’s creation; anything God has created he can destroy.
It all started with the lie Satan told Eve.
Gen. 3:4 “ And the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall not surely die.”
And that lie is still being told today! Paul tells us there is only one who has immortality, the Father.
1 Tim. 6:16 “ Who only has immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting, Amen.”
And hear is what Jesus said.
John 5:26 “ For as the Father has life in himself (immortality), so has he given to the son to have life in himself (immortality).”
The Father, Jehovah God, is the only one who has always been immortal. And Jesus is the only one the Father has given immortality after his job hear on earth was finished. That also shows that Jesus did not always have immortality, and that now he can never die again. That is what immortality means: death is impossible; you cannot have immortality and choose to die; if you can die, you are not immortal. That is just plain common sense. Why would Paul say death has no more dominion over Jesus?
Rom. 6:9 “ Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death has no more dominion (power) over him.”
The only reason death had power over him was because he became sin for us.
2 Cor. 5:21 “ For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin…”
When Jesus ascended into heaven, forty days after his resurrection.
Acts 1:2 “Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen.”
v. 3 “To whom also he showed himself alive after his passi
on by many infallible proofs being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God.”
v. 9 “ And when he had spoken these things while they beheld, he was taken up…”
He was on his way to receive his reward from the Father, a divine, glorified spirit body, immortality, for a job well done. As for us humans, we all will die, sleep in our graves (hell), wait for the resurrection; and while we sleep, we will know nothing.
In 1 Cor. 15:20-58 and in 1 Thes. 4:13-18, Paul is explaining the resurrection of the dead, not the living. And where does the idea that the “unsaved”, will burn in an everlasting fire come from anyway? Just a thought, an Italian poet, Dante, wrote a comedy, “the Inferno”, back in the 13th century, in which he describes hell in its various stages of punishments, as the Devil takes him on a tour through hell. What a laugh he would have if he knew that our scholars and highly trained educators used his book as a blueprint for teaching what the punishment for sinners will be. There are some ministers that seem to try to outdo Dante by teaching that hell is just a holding place for sinners, a warm-up place if you will, because, according to them after judgment day, the sinner will be promoted to the “lake of fire”, a much hotter place.
Also, think about this: How many dictators have tried with cruelty to rule the world or at least their own country? Although they have become famous, do we really admire them? Do we not rather speak of them as inhuman, monstrous, beastly, and sadistic? And yes, they were all that, but their victims dieing an agonizing and tortures death did die and now rest in peace. How many of us remember the burning twin Towers? Did we not watch in horror, thinking of the people that were trapped by the flames? And yet on Sunday, in Church, we hallelujah, we amen, and applaud when we hear how God will punish the sinner for all eternity. Do we not realize that we make God worse then any dictator? Think about it! Our creator; our loving Father and savior, enjoying himself on the suffering of his creation? And still we are supposed to believe he is our God of love? Whose spirit do we have that wants us to believe that? It is demonic and blasphemous. The Bible tells us how God feels about deliberate, live burnings;
2 Kings 21:2 “ And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, after the abomination of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.”
v. 3 “For he build up again the high places which Hezeki’ah his father had destroyed; and he reared up altars for Ba’al and made a grove, as did Ahab king of Israel; and worshiped all the host of heaven, and served them.”
v. 6 “ And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards; he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.”
Jer. 7:31 “ And they have build the high place of To’phet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.”
God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked; should we believe he has pleasure in his torture?
Ez. 33:11 “ Say unto them, as I live saith the lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live….”
1 Tim. 2:4 “Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
v. 5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
v. 6 “Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
What is a ransom? A ransom is an exchange of something or someone for something or someone of equal value. Jesus was not only the Son of God; he was spirit in nature, of much higher value than Adam, a human; so Jesus humbled himself.
Phil. 2:7 “But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.”
v. 8 “And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”
It was necessary for Jesus to take on our nature, because he would be dying for one of our nature. Spirit beings cannot be killed, except by God. By being borne as a human, he learned what it was like to be a human from birth. He learned through experience and would be able to identify with us.
Heb. 2:18 “For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
God took away his spirit body and gave him a human body. His body had to grow, but not his mind, his spirit; it was the same mind that he had in his spirit body.
Have you ever heard someone say, or maybe you said it yourself: if I only had known 30 years ago what I know today? The body of Jesus had to grow up, but not his mind. Jesus in this body died; but when he was resurrected, God gave him back his true nature, spirit. God put his mind back into his spirit body; it was after all his human body that took on all of our sins, not his mind.
2 Cor. 5:21 “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
His human body had to remain in the grave; that is what a ransom is, an exchange. Adam was freed from the grave because Jesus took his place.
Heb. 2:9 “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.”
Those who advocate there is a literal hell burning with fire, for the punishing of sinners, seem to forget that Jesus is there with them; did he not take on our sins? Does that not make him a sinner? Also, those who teach Jesus was bodily resurrected do not understand the concept of the ransom. Jesus traded places with Adam in the grave; Adam was freed from it; Jesus had to remain in it. Had Jesus been bodily resurrected, it would have been the same as taking back the ransom. The penalty for sin is death, permanent death, not just dying and then being resurrected again.
Rom. 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
A bodily resurrection would have made his sacrifice void, and all of our sins would be unforgiven. Jesus dead body was no longer needed, and God simply disposed of it. Paul assures us.
1 Cor. 15:20 “But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.”Jesus was resurrected, but not in his flesh body.
2 Cor. 5:16 “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.”
And God had told us he would not allow his body to decay.
Ps. 16:10 “For thou wilt not leave my soul (body) in hell (grave); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption (decay).”
Paul is also saying this.
Acts 24:15 “And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.”
Even though we are all going to die, due to Adam’s sin, no one has yet been sentenced to eternal death, rather, all that have died, sleeping in their grave – hell – will live again in Christ’s millennium. The reason the Bible tells us that the dead are sleeping in their graves is because there will be an awakening from that sleep; it is the resurrection.
1 Cor. 15:22 “ For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.”
For as in Adam all die, Adam’s sin made him unclean; and Job tells us:
Job 14:4 “ Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one.”
We were doomed to die before we were born, before we had sinned. If we were to die for our own sins, how would you explain the death of infants and small children who have no concept of sin; nor could they have committed any sin? We are all cursed with Adam’s curse, death. Did Job believe in a resurrection?
v. 14 “ If a man die, shall he live again? All the days of my appointed time will I wait (in the grave), till my change come (the resurrection).”
v. 15 “ Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee, thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.”
Job not only believed in a resurrection; he also believed he would not be resurrected as an old man;
Job 33:25 “ His flesh shall be fresher than a child’s; he shall return to the days of his youth.”
This resurrection will occur during the millennium, the thousand-year reign of Christ, also called “the day of the Lord” or “judgment day”. This will be the due time. But this “day” is not a day of condemning and sentencing; it is rather a time, thousand years, of teaching and correcting with fairness and justice. It is a time when all will have a chance to know and understand the truth;
Zeph. 3:9 “ For then will I turn to the people a pure language (the true Gospel), that they may all call upon the name of the LORD (Yahweh), to serve him with one consent.”
How many different religions do we have today? How many denominations are there alone in them that call themselves Christians? Why is it that even within a denomination ministers can’t agree? That is all going to change.
Is. 11:9 “ They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain (kingdom) for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.”
We should also see from this that not all would become spirit beings. If all the “saved” were to go to heaven, and all the “unsaved” were to go to hell, how would you explain?
Mat. 5:5 “ Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.”
And who are the meek? They are all who during the millennium have listened and obeyed the gospel of Christ; to become a spirit being, that is to have a change of nature, is the reward for the saints only. And who are the saints?
Ps. 50:5 “ Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.”
Rev. 3:21 “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame and am sat down with my Father in his throne.”
Do the saints go to heaven?
Rev. 5:10 “ And hast made us (the saints) unto our God kings and priests; and we shall reign (with Christ) on the earth.”
I say that makes it very plain; the meek will inherit the earth, and the saints will inherit the kingdom of God, his spiritual kingdom, and rule with Christ the King of Kings, over the meek, for a thousand years, here on this earth.
ISN’T THIS WHAT WE’RE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR?Yes indeed I have been waiting for that, no more pain and no more sorrow.
Peace and Love Irene
Hi Cindy.
I think your question might be confusing.
Yes, there is a literal “hades/sheol” (hell) as it is mentioned 200 times in scripture.
I think, what you must mean is, is there a hellfire, where people are tortured for all time in fire.
Quote (david @ Sep. 06 2009,09:38) Hi Cindy. I think your question might be confusing.
Yes, there is a literal “hades/sheol” (hell) as it is mentioned 200 times in scripture.
I think, what you must mean is, is there a hellfire, where people are tortured for all time in fire.
David Hell means hole in the ground, or grave. Jesus went to Hell for 3 days and 3 nights.
There is a Lake of Fire where all those will be desroyed that cannot or will not follow God. And of course Anti_Christ and Satan and his demons. All will be destroyed and will not be burning for all eternity.
Read Malachi.
IreneQuote David Hell means hole in the ground, or grave. Jesus went to Hell for 3 days and 3 nights.
There is a Lake of Fire where all those will be desroyed that cannot or will not follow God.I agree with you cindy. But your question was: Is there a literal hell? But being that the Bible mentions “hell” 200 times, I don't know of anyone who wonders whether it exists. But what people THINK it is (hellfire), I thought that is what you meant to ask about.
Quote (david @ Sep. 06 2009,11:37) Quote David Hell means hole in the ground, or grave. Jesus went to Hell for 3 days and 3 nights.
There is a Lake of Fire where all those will be desroyed that cannot or will not follow God.I agree with you cindy. But your question was: Is there a literal hell? But being that the Bible mentions “hell” 200 times, I don't know of anyone who wonders whether it exists. But what people THINK it is (hellfire), I thought that is what you meant to ask about.
David Did you read my Husbands Article? He explaines all you want to know about this subject; the question in his article is, “is there a litteral hell of “torment”? So when it says that Christ was in hell 3 days and 3 nights, He was in a literal hell with fire?
You did not answer that!!!
IreneQuote (david @ Sep. 06 2009,09:38) Hi Cindy. I think your question might be confusing.
Yes, there is a literal “hades/sheol” (hell) as it is mentioned 200 times in scripture.
I think, what you must mean is, is there a hellfire, where people are tortured for all time in fire.
Yes hell exists, but it is thrown into the Lake of Fire to suffer the same destruction as the present earth and heavens.2 Peter 2:12
But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.2 Peter 3:7
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.2 Peter 3:11-13
11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives
12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.The last verse is often used to support an eternal hell where people will suffer forever (which means that they must be alive). But it is actually saying that they will be destroyed forever. That is what this scripture says and many others too. Simply put, the wicked will be destroyed forever and shut out from his presence. They will never be resurrected ever.
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his powerTo All……..Who believe in a literial (Hell) please explain How death and Hell is literally thrown into a literial lake of Fire. How is this (LITERALLY) Done. Turning symbolic language into literial language causes much confusion in scriptures. Even the word Hell is a English translation for GRAVE, and has nothing to do with any fire at all. IMO
peace and love…………………..gene
Gene,
take a look at this website. I believe there's some great insights on your questions. Let me know your thoughts. Hope this is helpful in answering your last post
Grace & peace, Pat http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre17hsthell.html
Is it a Hell Fire or Righteous Fire? Or something else?
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; Genesis 20:14
And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed. Exodus 3:2
And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt. So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation. Exodus 9:23-24
And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: Exodus 3:21
And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. Exodus 19:18
And the sight of the glory of the LORD [was] like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel. Exodus 24:17
And there came a fire out from before the LORD, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: [which] when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces. Leviticus 9:24
And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD. Leviticus 10:2
And on the day that the tabernacle was reared up the cloud covered the tabernacle, [namely], the tent of the testimony: and at even there was upon the tabernacle as it were the appearance of fire, until the morning. So it was alway: the cloud covered it [by day], and the appearance of fire by night. Numbers 9:15
And [when] the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard [it]; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed [them that were] in the uttermost parts of the camp. And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the LORD, the fire was quenched. And he called the name of the place Taberah: because the fire of the LORD burnt among them. Numbers 11:1-3
And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense. Numbers 16:35
Every thing that may abide the fire, ye shall make [it] go through the fire, and it shall be clean: nevertheless it shall be purified with the water of separation: and all that abideth not the fire ye shall make go through the water. Numbers 31:23
And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness. And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only [ye heard] a voice. Deuteronomy 4:11
For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God.
Hi CON,
God is not the lake of fire.
But the sons of God are tested by fire.[1cor3]
What survives the crucible of God is pure and of God.For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God. Dueteronomy 4:24
Did [ever] people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live? Deuteronomy 4:33
Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire. Deuteronomy 4:36
Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God [is] he which goeth over before thee; [as] a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee. Deuteronomy 9:3
So I turned and came down from the mount, and the mount burned with fire: and the two tables of the covenant [were] in my two hands. Deuterony 9:15
For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell (pit), and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. Deuteronomy 32:22
Then the angel of the LORD put forth the end of the staff that [was] in his hand, and touched the flesh and the unleavened cakes; and there rose up fire out of the rock, and consumed the flesh and the unleavened cakes. Then the angel of the LORD departed out of his sight. Judges 6:21
There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness [was] under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind. And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, [and] thick clouds of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled. The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. 2Samuel 22:8-14
Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that [was] in the trench. 1Kings 18:38
Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the LORD filled the house. 2Chronicles 7:1
While he [was] yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. Job 1:16
Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: [this shall be] the portion of their cup. Psalm 11:6
There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. . . At the brightness [that was] before him his thick clouds passed, hail [stones] and coals of fire. The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail [stones] and coals of fire. Psalm 18:8;12-13
Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. Psalm 21:9
The voice of the LORD divideth the flames of fire. Psalm 29:7
Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. Psalm 50:3
As smoke is driven away, [so] drive [them] away: as wax melteth before the fire, [so] let the wicked perish at the presence of God. Psalm 68:2
[It is] burned with fire, [it is] cut down: they perish at the rebuke of thy countenance. Psalm 80:16
A fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round about. Psalm 97:3
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: Psalm 104:4
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 11 2009,12:02) Hi CON,
God is not the lake of fire.
But the sons of God are tested by fire.[1cor3]
What survives the crucible of God is pure and of God.
Cudos!Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: Psalm 104:4
For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee. Proverbs 25:22
And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory [shall be] a defence. Isaiah 4:5
Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, [so] their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 9:5
Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. Isaiah 9:19
And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day; Isaiah 10:17
LORD, [when] thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: [but] they shall see, and be ashamed for [their] envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them. Isaiah 26:11
Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. Isaiah 29:6
Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning [with] his anger, and the burden [thereof is] heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire: Isaiah 30:27
And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of [his] anger, and [with] the flame of a devouring fire, [with] scattering, and tempest, and hailstones. Isaiah 30:30
And the people shall be [as] the burnings of lime: [as] thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire. Isaiah 33:12
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? Isaiah 33:14
Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: [there shall] not [be] a coal to warm at, [nor] fire to sit before it. Isaiah 47:14
As [when] the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name known to thine adversaries, [that] the nations may tremble at thy presence! Isaiah 64:2
Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These [are] a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. Isaiah 65:5
For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. Isaiah 66:15-16
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Isaiah 66:24
Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench [it], because of the evil of your doings. Jeremiah 4:4
Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them. Jeremiah 5:14
O house of David, thus saith the LORD; Execute judgment in the morning, and deliver [him that is] spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor, lest my fury go out like fire, and burn that none can quench [it], because of the evil of your doings. Jeremiah 21:12
Quote And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness [was] about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Ezekiel 1:4 Quote As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance [was] like burning coals of fire, [and] like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. Ezekiel 1:13 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. Ezekiel 1:27
Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber. Ezekiel 8:2
And I will set my face against them; they shall go out from [one] fire, and [another] fire shall devour them; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I set my face against them. Ezekiel 15:7
And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein. Ezeliel 20:47
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no [more] remembered: for I the LORD have spoken [it]. Ezekiel 21:32
Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of my wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst thereof. . . Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 22:21; 31
Quote I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire. Daniel 7:9 His body also [was] like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. Daniel 10:6
A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land [is] as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them. Joel 2:3
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. Joel 2:30
Quote But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he [is] like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: Malachi 3:2 Everything about God is fire, and it seems all that is wicked will be destroyed by his righteousness.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 12 2009,08:05) Hi CON,
The earth shall be burned up.
But the earth is not the lake of fire.
Your right. Read Malachi 1:4 ” Behold for the day is coming,
Burning like an oven.
And all the proud,yes all who do wickedly will be
stubble.
And the day which is coming, will burn them up,”
Says the LORD of hosts,
That will leave them neither root nor branch.
But to you who fear my name
The Sun of rightenouss shall arise
With Healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat, like stall-fat calves.
You shall trample the wcked.
They SHALL BE ASHES UNDER YOUR FEET
ON THE DAY I WILL DO THIS,' SAYS THE LORD
of hosts.
Peace and Love IreneQuote (georg @ Oct. 11 2009,13:46) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 12 2009,08:05) Hi CON,
The earth shall be burned up.
But the earth is not the lake of fire.
Your right. Read Malachi 1:4 ” Behold for the day is coming,
Burning like an oven.
And all the proud,yes all who do wickedly will be
stubble.
And the day which is coming, will burn them up,”
Says the LORD of hosts,
That will leave them neither root nor branch.
But to you who fear my name
The Sun of rightenouss shall arise
With Healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat, like stall-fat calves.
You shall trample the wcked.
They SHALL BE ASHES UNDER YOUR FEET
ON THE DAY I WILL DO THIS,' SAYS THE LORD
of hosts.
Peace and Love Irene
Gods righteousness is that fire, it emanuates in him, from him, and is all around him, when his righteousness consumes in that day EVERYTHING will be CONSUMED.The wicked shall see [it], and be grieved; he shall gnash with his teeth, and melt away: the desire of the wicked shall perish.
[As] they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt [it]; so will I gather [you] in mine anger and in my fury, and I will leave [you there], and melt you.
The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
TO ALL…….think it not strange concerning this fiery trail that has tried you, as if some strange thing has happened unto you. and again “for every man work shall be tried , and if He has built with gold , silver, or precious stones , he shall recieve a reward, but if he has built with straw, hay or stubble, He will suffer loss, because the fire will disclose it, but he himself shall be saved yet as by or (through) Fire. The fire of God shall try (EVERY MAN WORK) None will escape the fire of GOD. God HIMSELF is the consuming FIRE, there is no Literal Lake of fire, it is symbolic of GOD'S intense JUDGMENT on ALL things even the earth it self. Fire is symbolic for purification, and that means getting rid of Wickedness. Through a purging process of intense Judgements. IMO
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