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- February 27, 2015 at 1:11 pm#789652AndrewADParticipant
The kingdom is within and this is my holy faith which produces the holy kingdom without.
March 3, 2015 at 8:23 am#789815NickHassanParticipantHi Andrew,
When did the kingdom enter you or do you believe the kingdom exists in all men?
March 4, 2015 at 11:24 am#789892GeneBalthropParticipantTo all…….LUKE 17:20-21…… And when he was demanded of the Phariseses, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not with “OBSERVATION”; 21 NEITHER SHALL THEY SAY, LO HERE! OR LO THERE! FOR, BEHOLD, THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU.
You have it right ANDREW The kingdom of God is within.
peace and love to you and yours. ……………….gene
March 4, 2015 at 7:48 pm#789936kerwinParticipantA Christian can condemn themselves in what they allow. That Christian would be happier not to do so.
March 4, 2015 at 7:54 pm#789937kerwinParticipantAndrew,
Faith is like cash to God.If ye give him the cash he is satisfied and thy soul shall be saved.
But do ye have the holy cash? Of course ye do! Only believe and you are saved! For God hath given you the cash through his Christ.God hath given to every man the measure of faith. So praise him!
Abraham had faith and he was not given it through Jesus Christ.
The Spirit of God comes through Jesus and those who walk according to its teachings do not sin.
March 4, 2015 at 9:02 pm#789940NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets[1Peter 1]
The Word was before Jesus.
March 4, 2015 at 9:21 pm#789941terrariccaParticipantandrewAD
read this ;and see if the truth is not what saves us ,for many have faith but not in the truth of God ,many worship but not all worship God almighty in spirit and truth ,
PR 21:28 A false witness will perish,
But the man who listens to the truth will speak forever.
JN 5:33 “You have sent to John, and he has testified to the truth.
JN 18:37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “ You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”
1PE 1:22 Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for a sincere love of the brethren, fervently love one another from the heart,Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”
March 5, 2015 at 6:51 am#789945kerwinParticipantNick,
The prophets spoke from God as they were carried along by they Spirit of God, 2 Peter 1:21.
They could not live by the Spirit as instructed in Galatians 5:16 because they did not receive the promise of the Holy Spirit that is spoken of in Acts 2:33. This is why it is written that ” that they without us should not be made perfect”, Hebrews 11:40 AV of the KJV.
March 5, 2015 at 6:57 am#789946NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Does your bible say SPIRIT OF GOD or SPIRIT OF CHRIST?
The SPIRIT OF CHRIST was IN them not just WITH them.
They will be seated at the wedding feast with the Lord.
March 5, 2015 at 7:00 am#789947NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Likewise the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.[rev 19]
March 5, 2015 at 7:10 am#789948kerwinParticipantNick,
Does your bible say SPIRIT OF GOD or SPIRIT OF CHRIST?
From what is written I conclude it is the same Spirit that Jesus inherited from his God and our God. It is the one Spirit mentioned as a party of the unity of faith.
Likewise the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy
That sounded reasonable before I confirmed it by looking it up.
March 5, 2015 at 7:30 am#789952NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
So you do not answer the question but rely on your assumptions?
March 5, 2015 at 8:03 am#789954kerwinParticipantNick,
Please reread what I said as you response does not follow from my words.
March 5, 2015 at 8:20 am#789957NickHassanParticipant“Hi KW,
From what is written I conclude it is the same Spirit that Jesus inherited from his God and our God. ”
Should we rely on your conclusions?
It says “SPIRIT OF CHRIST”
March 5, 2015 at 8:27 am#789960kerwinParticipantNick,
That is better. I rather you test my conclusions and see if you find them true.
As supporting evidence I spoke of the fact there is only one Spirit in the unity of faith. I did not say where I obtained that evidence though now I will. It comes from Ephesians 4:13.
I believe Jesus also had his own personal spirit as it common to human beings but I do not see any evidence to support that spirit being the one addressed as the Spirit of Christ.
March 5, 2015 at 8:29 am#789961NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Yes.
The Word was with God and was God.
The Word was made flesh.
We can know the Father AND the Son in the one Spirit.
March 5, 2015 at 8:31 am#789962NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of anointing.
Christ[anointing] was the rock in the desert from which came the waters of life.
March 5, 2015 at 8:35 am#789963kerwinParticipantNick,
Jesus did say that God was in him and we know elsewhere that God dwells in believe through his Spirit so it seems reasonable that God is in Jesus through God’s Spirit.
Jesus also said that he was in God so using the same reason it follows that he is in God through his personal spirit.
The last thing he said in this line is that both he and God would dwell in believers and believers would dwell in them so using the same reason it would follow that believers dwell in them through their personal spirits.
I do not find it convincing but it does support the idea the Spirit of Christ is different than the Spirit of God.
March 5, 2015 at 8:42 am#789964NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Through his personal spirit?
That returns to God at death.[ecc12]
Reason is unhelpful in spiritual matters.
March 5, 2015 at 8:47 am#789965NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
“Another counsellor” is how the Spirit of God is described, sent to those who share already in the Spirit of Christ.
Yet there is no division in the ONE Spirit.
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