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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,09:43) Hi not3,
The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.[rom8]
God did not give us halloween did He?
Of course not. But God didn't give us rugby mixed with those half-naked commercials either.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,11:04) Hi not3,
So we should treat both with the same reservations?
Or is halloween somehow holier?
I think we have to be careful not to condemn ourselves by what we approve!
Hi not3,
So watching rugby without commercials is OK?
And supporting the witchcraft of halloween is no worse?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,11:14) Hi not3,
Rugby is a winter sport and naked women stay at home.
Thinker…….You have yet to show where Paul ate anything sacrificed to Idols or participated in their ceremonies. He was simply stating the this meat offered was only meat and have no godly significance to it at all. But some think is does and if you eat you weaken you brothers conscience by you act. But no where does it say Paul ate any of it, or sanctioned involvement in offering it either. Your tweaking scripture to make it sound that way thinker. look if i saw you go into a temple and participate in the occasion and eat , it would not change my out look on it because i full well know that there are no pagan gods of any kind and meat is simply meat. But i just choose not to be part of it for a lot of reasons, one is because it is Just simply wrong and effects the consciousness of others. Not me because i already know it is false behavior and i certainly would (NOT) be for it at all. Look i am not condemning anyone go with your conscience. I am fairly sure it wouldn't keep you out of the Kingdom of GOD. But, Why support in any way something like Halloween. IMO
gene
Quote (Gene @ Oct. 20 2009,19:39) But i just choose not to be part of it for a lot of reasons, one is because it is Just simply wrong and effects the consciousness of others. Not me because i already know it is false behavior and i certainly would (NOT) be for it at all.
But why not just tell people the truth, that meat is nothing and that it is ok to eat meat?WJ
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,11:14) Hi not3,
Rugby is a winter sport and naked women stay at home.
Not in Hollywood.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself [rather] unto godliness. For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. These things command and teach. Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery. Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
Some people wish to show others if they abstain from anything to do surrounding holloween that they are evil.
And that if they do not accept there view of holloween then they are evil.
Or if they do not downplay it and give it a mask of something that appears good, then they are evil.
What would you think about this? Personally if I find it evil, I shun it completly.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 21 2009,12:23) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself [rather] unto godliness. For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. These things command and teach. Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery. Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. Some people wish to show others if they abstain from anything to do surrounding holloween that they are evil.
And that if they do not accept there view of holloween then they are evil.
Or if they do not downplay it and give it a mask of something that appears good, then they are evil.
What would you think about this? Personally if I find it evil, I shun it completly.
You shun it completely because you are defiled.“To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.” (Titus 1:15)
My conscience has been washed with clean water (Hebrews 10:22)
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,12:46) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 21 2009,12:23) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself [rather] unto godliness. For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. These things command and teach. Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery. Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. Some people wish to show others if they abstain from anything to do surrounding holloween that they are evil.
And that if they do not accept there view of holloween then they are evil.
Or if they do not downplay it and give it a mask of something that appears good, then they are evil.
What would you think about this? Personally if I find it evil, I shun it completly.
You shun it completely because you are defiled.“To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.” (Titus 1:15)
My conscience has been washed with clean water (Hebrews 10:22)
thinker
I call upon you, therefore, brethren, through the compassions of God, to present your bodies a sacrifice–living, sanctified, acceptable to God–your intelligent service; and be not conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, for your proving what is the will of God–the good, and acceptable, and perfect. For I say, through the grace that was given to me, to every one who is among you, not to think above what it behoveth to think; but to think so as to think wisely, as to each God did deal a measure of faith, for as in one body we have many members, and all the members have not the same office, so we, the many, one body are in Christ, and members each one of one another.**romans
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,12:53) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,12:46) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 21 2009,12:23) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself [rather] unto godliness. For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. These things command and teach. Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery. Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. Some people wish to show others if they abstain from anything to do surrounding holloween that they are evil.
And that if they do not accept there view of holloween then they are evil.
Or if they do not downplay it and give it a mask of something that appears good, then they are evil.
What would you think about this? Personally if I find it evil, I shun it completly.
You shun it completely because you are defiled.“To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.” (Titus 1:15)
My conscience has been washed with clean water (Hebrews 10:22)
thinker
I call upon you, therefore, brethren, through the compassions of God, to present your bodies a sacrifice–living, sanctified, acceptable to God–your intelligent service; and be not conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, for your proving what is the will of God–the good, and acceptable, and perfect. For I say, through the grace that was given to me, to every one who is among you, not to think above what it behoveth to think; but to think so as to think wisely, as to each God did deal a measure of faith, for as in one body we have many members, and all the members have not the same office, so we, the many, one body are in Christ, and members each one of one another.**romans
Your point being….thinker
Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO
gene
Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,13:07) Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,13:13) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,13:07) Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
i disagree, thinkerto justify your practice, this must be done every day for the Lord, not just at this time.
personally, living and speaking his word everyday, is much more profitable then having to buy candy and CD's everyday.
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,21:25) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,13:13) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,13:07) Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
i disagree, thinkerto justify your practice, this must be done every day for the Lord, not just at this time.
personally, living and speaking his word everyday, is much more profitable then having to buy candy and CD's everyday.
PrincessOk then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
WJ
Quote Tell me something, to a Christian who saw Paul from afar (hanging out with the godless) how would this look to them? Would they think he was partaking of the evil affair? Would it cause them to stumble? Would it have the appearence of evil? Hmmm. — MANDY
Extremely interesting question Mandy.
If you read Acts 17:18-19, it seems as if he was taken there by people who weren't really his friends. They had just called him an “idle babbler” and a “proclaimer of strange deities.” Then, they took him to Areopagus. It's not at all certain that he really had a choice.
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