Grace

[NickHassan]

GB,
So the fear of God was not the beginning of your wisdom?

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick…..so i guess your still on milk and for you Fear is what you need right, I for one have learned (LOVE CAST OUT FEAR) so you stay or grow up , because i Know where is say ” NOTHING IS PERFECTED BY FEAR BECAUSE FEAR HAS TORMENT”> When are you going to get around to answer my questions on the two scripture i quoted two or three times. Why are you continuing to dodge them.?

[NickHassan]

GB,
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
Why not begin?

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick……Fine you live and worship God through you fear and thimbling Spirit you have. I listed two scripture that show you you are totally wrong, you just can't face the truth or you would address the scriptures do i need to post them for the forth time or can you commit on the, ….2Ti 1:7 and the one i posted also in Rom. TRY to ANSWER THEM with you distorted fear doctrine. Quite changing the subjects to skirt around them. Meat them head on and gives us your great answer if you can. Lets stop playing your stupid games.

[NickHassan]

GB,
2Tim1

7For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Indeed we in Christ do not ahave a SPIRIT OF FEAR but the Spirit of Grace.

The fear of God is not of such a demonic spirit.

[GeneBalthrop]

NIck……..The fear of god is not of such a demonic spirit,?, so what spirit are you of then, you preach a spirit of FEAR and TREMBLING. Well at least you do admit we in Christ do not have a SPIRIT OF FEAR but the Spirit of GRACE. That was all i was saying NICK. We have not received the spirit of bondage again to FEAR.

Peace to you and yours………….gene

[NickHassan]

GB,
The Spirit of God poured into Christ is not divided and the anointing is also in the fear of God.
Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD –

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick……KNOWLEDGE OF something does not mean you have it because you have the knowledge of it. We have went through these things and proved conclusively we have (NOT received a SPIRIT OF FEAR but of power and a sound mind. lets just leave it at that, OK.

[NickHassan]

GB,
Forget knowledge as that is another aspect of God's Spirit.
But what of FEAR OF THE LORD?

[GeneBalthrop]

NICK……..believe as you will, that fine with me, I will serve a GOD of LOVE without FEAR, and you serve a GOD OF FEAR and THIMBLING, if that the spirit you received then serve it OK> Just ignore all the posted scriptures and hold on to your own human reasonings OK.

[NickHassan]

GB,
Not reasoning just what is written.
We follow him.

Is 11

1And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

3And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick….if you followed him you would know what we are saying , you are garbing for straws to keep your pride going, however i posted to you scripture that showed conclusively you wrong teachings, you can reject them if you like that your business and hold on to your fear teaching and theologies. I'll go by the clear scriptures i quoted you. Your problem is you don't understand the word (fear) in the scriptures has a different meaning then our present meanings.

[NickHassan]

GB,
Was Isaiah deceived when he wrote of Jesus?
If you follow him should you too not walk in the Spiritual grace of the holy fear of God?

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick….let fear be your guide and teacher, I will follow 2 Ti 1:7 and believe I have (NOT) received the SPIRIT OF FEAR , but of power and of a sound mind. You on the other hand have received the SPIRIT OF FEAR ; So we are definitely opposites , you follow fear i will follow Love that casts out fear, Lets just leave it at that OK.

[NickHassan]

GB,
The Spirit of grace endows with the fear of God.
Not the spirit of fear but the Spirit of God.
Is 12

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick…..you are now talking out of both sides of your mouth. Where is it written the Spirit of grace endows with the fear of GOD. Nick the word fear in the old and new testament , should be interpreted as (REVERENCE) or RESPECT. Look it up for yourself.

[NickHassan]

GB,
Did you forget Is 11 again?

“1And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

3And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:”

So the Spirit of God graced him with FEAR OF THE LORD
Write it down somewhere

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick…….well i guess then Jesus did not (LOVE) GOD then right because it says LOVE CAST OUT FEAR AT lest my GOD is while your is a GOD who GIVES FEAR to HIS CHILDREN. I say with 2Ti 1:7. For we have not received the SPIRIT OF FEAR, but of POWER AND A SOUND MIND> I'll stay with that , Plus many other scriptures already mentioned . AS i said before, you serve you GOD of FEAR and TORMENT, I' ll Serve and reverence my GOD of LOVE and a SOUND MIND. His GRACE (Godly influencing on the heart) is sufficient for me.

[NickHassan]

GB,
Can you not reconcile the Word?
Guess where the lack is.

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick….it you who can't reconcile the word not me , i have quoted the word to you but you ignore it to you own destruction and i know where the lack is , it's in you lack of understanding what is written

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