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[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,02:54)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,09:49) Hi Mike, Should you not be willing to explore the possibility I may be right? Ed:  Jesus' second coming was at Pentecost. Paul:  Way AFTER Pentecost, and AFTER we have all received the Holy Spirit, we STILL await the second coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Sorry Ed, but there is NO possibility that you are right on this one.

Hi Mike,

So to you “the day of Christ” means a flesh return Jesus then, right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

In what context, Ed? Give me the scripture, and I'll give you my answer.

[Ed J]

2Thess.2:2

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,22:37)

2Thess.2:2

edj

2Th 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.
2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

this scriptures do not help you in any way ,

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

        Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing.

“The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD.
Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,23:02)

Hi Pierre,         Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing. “The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD. Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

why are you blinding yourself in this way Paul says those words way after the Pentecost ,

and the Day of the Lord ,yes it means the day of the Lords return ,and so by no means of interpretation can that day be retroactive to Paul written letter ,right yes

so please stop telling false story's

[Ed J]

“Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty.
 he lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and
 the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. For the day of the LORD of Hosts shall be upon
 every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:” (Isaiah 2:10-12)

[Ed J]

“For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he
 may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour” (Jer 46:10)

“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite
 the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron”  (Rev.19:15)

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,00:04)

“For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he  may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour” (Jer 46:10) “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite  the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron”  (Rev.19:15)

edj

?? what is it,you try to give birth to

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,06:13)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,00:04) “For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he  may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour” (Jer 46:10) “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite  the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron”  (Rev.19:15) edj ?? what is it,you try to give birth to

Ed is just cooking up something nice for us.Dont forget the tomato sauce Ed.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,23:02)

Hi Pierre,         Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing. “The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD. Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

to follow your understanding we have to assume that ;THE LORD (JESUS ) = THE LORD (JEHOVAH ) IN THE OLD TESTAMENT RIGHT

if not your understanding does not old a penny

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,04:02)

Hi Pierre,         Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing. “The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD. Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

The day of the Lord is a feast indeed,but not thE feast you are thinking of.

Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto **THE SUPPER OF THE GREAT GOD**;

Revelation 19:18 TAT YE MAY EAT THE FLESH OF KINGS, AND THE FLESH OF CAPTAINS, AND THE FLESH OF MIGHTY MEN, AND THE FLESH OF HORSES, AND OF THEM THAT SIT ON THEM, AND THE FLESH OF MEN, BOTH FREE AND BOND, BOTH SMALL AND GREAT.

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Revelation 19:20 And the BEAST was taken, and with him the FALSE PROPHET that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

A GREAT FEAST INDEED FOR THE WILD BEASTS.

wakeup.

[2besee]

Hi EdJ,
The Day of the Lord (Return of Jesus) has not come yet, all of the writers in the NT were waiting for the day (future) and explanations were given as to what that day would be, and we are warned very clearly in 2nd Peter to beware of anyone who tries to say that the day of the Lord has come.

Perhaps if you may for a moment pray before you read, that your eyes be open to truth, as you read the following slowly.

2Pet.3

This is now the second letter that I have written to you, beloved, and in both of them I have aroused your sincere mind by way of reminder;
that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles.

First of all you must understand this, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own passions
and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning of creation.”

They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago, and an earth formed out of water and by means of water,
through which the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.
But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

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As you can see above, Peter has the coming of the Lord Jesus with the day of destruction and the day of destruction will be similar to the great flood which killed everybody except for a few. Only this time it will be with fire.

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continued on:

But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

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It has been 2000 years and counting because God is patiently waiting, hoping that all would reach repentance before that day comes.

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continued on:

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

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There is no hidden secret spiritual meaning to this, this is clear and it goes in with all of the other scriptures.

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continued:

Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

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Peter repeated this twice in the one chapter – that everything would be melted and burnt up (literally).
And Peter is waiting not for a temporary kingdom or what we are living in now, but for the new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

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Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace.

And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation.

[2besee]

BTW that also makes all you premillenialists and dispensationalists wrong too.
Peter is waiting for the new heavens and the new earth. No mention of a temporary kingdom is there.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,05:21)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,23:02) Hi Pierre,         Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing. “The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD. Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link) God bless Ed J edj to follow your understanding we have to assume that ;THE LORD (JESUS ) = THE LORD (JEHOVAH ) IN THE OLD TESTAMENT RIGHT if not your understanding does not old a penny

No Pierre,

YHVH is “The LORD”(the owner), HolySpirit. ……… “GOD”
Jesus is “Lord”(owner), spirit of Christ. ………..”Son of God”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 14 2013,15:04)

Hi EdJ, The Day of the Lord (Return of Jesus) has not come yet, all of the writers in the NT were waiting for the day (future) and explanations were given as to what that day would be………………….

Good post, 2B.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,09:58)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,02:54) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,09:49) Hi Mike, Should you not be willing to explore the possibility I may be right? Ed:  Jesus' second coming was at Pentecost. Paul:  Way AFTER Pentecost, and AFTER we have all received the Holy Spirit, we STILL await the second coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Sorry Ed, but there is NO possibility that you are right on this one. So to you “the day of Christ” means a flesh return Jesus then, right?

Jesus will never return in the flesh, Ed. He became a life-giving spirit. He is flesh no more – nor will he ever be again.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,04:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,05:21) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,23:02) Hi Pierre,         Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing. “The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD. Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link) God bless Ed J edj to follow your understanding we have to assume that ;THE LORD (JESUS ) = THE LORD (JEHOVAH ) IN THE OLD TESTAMENT RIGHT if not your understanding does not old a penny No Pierre, YHVH is “The LORD”(the owner), HolySpirit. ……… “GOD” Jesus is “Lord”(owner), spirit of Christ. ………..”Son of God” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

why do you feel always obligated to ad to scriptures or to interpret them

this is not right ;
YHVH is “The LORD”(the owner), HolySpirit. ……… “GOD”
Jesus is “Lord”(owner), spirit of Christ. ………..”Son of God”

it should be ;The Lord Jehovah our God ,

Jesus our Lord and the son of God

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2013,11:30)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,09:58) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,02:54) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,09:49) Hi Mike, Should you not be willing to explore the possibility I may be right? Ed:  Jesus' second coming was at Pentecost. Paul:  Way AFTER Pentecost, and AFTER we have all received the Holy Spirit, we STILL await the second coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Sorry Ed, but there is NO possibility that you are right on this one. So to you “the day of Christ” means a flesh(physical) return of Jesus then, right? Jesus will never return in the flesh, Ed.  He became a life-giving spirit.  He is flesh no more – nor will he ever be again.

Hi Mike,

Substitute the word “PHYSICAL” for 'flesh'.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,12:02)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,04:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,05:21) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,23:02) Hi Pierre,         Yes, “The day of the LORD” and “the day of Christ” do mean the same thing. “The day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Tabernacles”, which the seventh feast of the LORD. Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”, which is the fourth feast of the LORD.  (Link) God bless Ed J edj to follow your understanding we have to assume that ;THE LORD (JESUS ) = THE LORD (JEHOVAH ) IN THE OLD TESTAMENT RIGHT if not your understanding does not old a penny No Pierre, YHVH is “The LORD”(the owner), HolySpirit. ……… “GOD” Jesus is “Lord”(owner), spirit of Christ. ………..”Son of God” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj why do feel always obligated to ad to scriptures or to interpret them this is not right ; YHVH is “The LORD”(the owner), HolySpirit. ……… “GOD” Jesus is “Lord”(owner), spirit of Christ. ………..”Son of God” it should be ;The Lord Jehovah our God , Jesus our Lord and the son of God

Hi Pierre,

I added nothing! – I merely lined things up for you, showing
how each name and title tie to God and to the definition of Lord.

Giving interpretive and exegetical analysis along with
charts and graphs help to illustrate the big picture.

What have you changed?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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