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- August 23, 2009 at 12:39 am#141835bodhithartaParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 23 2009,11:08) Hi BD,
Neither he did. The Spirit of God in him so upset idolatrous men they killed him.Nothing has changed.
You of all people should not evade the scriptural truth. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, that is violence.It doesn't matter if I don't like violence God does use violence at times to achieve His objectives.
Do you think the Christian thing to do in WW2 was to let Hitler simply continue taking over the world?
Would you allow someone to rape someone in front of you if you couldn't “talk” them out of it?
August 23, 2009 at 11:06 pm#141919GeneBalthropParticipantDB……….And you should not speak against the Words of Jesus, “MY PEACE I GIVE YOU , NOT AS THE WORLD , GIVE I IT YOU”. You are of the world and you speak as from the world , we are not from the world but of GOD and we speak the things of GOD, who has called us unto Peace. The Kingdom of GOD Has come “But the violent have overtaken it by (FORCE)> You (justification) of violence only shows you heart , repent of this or your own violence may come on you. AS Nick has quoted He who lives by the sword will die by it. We are told to forgive those who trespass against us and say all manor of false things against us, to love our enemies, but you justify those who kill, because Islam as well as so called “Christianity” is full of bloody violence. Jesus said to love our neighbors as ourselves, but you say it OK to destory them. Justification of religious evil is (NOT) of GOD. Those who have the LOVE of GOD shed around (IN) their hearts abhor violence, How much more those who advance it and justify it. IMO
peace and love………………….gene
August 26, 2009 at 2:00 am#142400evehParticipantNot one place in scripture does Jesus claim to be God.
The Son of God, has the Spirit of God in him. All saved people do. Although we are not resurrected yet. Jesus was the firstborn Son of the resurrection. But we will someday be reserected Sons along with Jesus. On that day, he will turn over all authority he has, back over to his Father. But for now, the only way to the Father is thourgh the blood of Jesus. We must set aside our carnal nature and be born of the spirit. We must receive the Holy Spirit. Then we become spiritual Sons. He made the way for us by his death on the cross. The firstborn of many.
August 26, 2009 at 2:35 am#142410bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Gene @ Aug. 24 2009,11:06) DB……….And you should not speak against the Words of Jesus, “MY PEACE I GIVE YOU , NOT AS THE WORLD , GIVE I IT YOU”. You are of the world and you speak as from the world , we are not from the world but of GOD and we speak the things of GOD, who has called us unto Peace. The Kingdom of GOD Has come “But the violent have overtaken it by (FORCE)> You (justification) of violence only shows you heart , repent of this or your own violence may come on you. AS Nick has quoted He who lives by the sword will die by it. We are told to forgive those who trespass against us and say all manor of false things against us, to love our enemies, but you justify those who kill, because Islam as well as so called “Christianity” is full of bloody violence. Jesus said to love our neighbors as ourselves, but you say it OK to destory them. Justification of religious evil is (NOT) of GOD. Those who have the LOVE of GOD shed around (IN) their hearts abhor violence, How much more those who advance it and justify it. IMO peace and love………………….gene
I am not saying that we should be violent, we should be gentle as doves. But we are to not allow injustice and oppression and when we allow it God will rise up someone or a people to destroy that evil just as Islam was risen up to destroy the stonghold of CatholicismAugust 27, 2009 at 3:56 am#142572evehParticipantQuote (Gene @ July 28 2009,02:34) Paladin………..Amen brother. Thinker look at the (THOU) and the (ME) They are not the same there is ONLY one GOD and HE gave us to Christ Jesus, for safe keeping, WE are Heirs and JOINT HEIRS with Jesus. He is one of US not separate in any way our brother in every way, who is the (first) born into the kingdom of GOD, of (many) brethren. peace and love to you and yours………………………gene
So, Paladin and gene…I think we have been studying alone the same lines. It is good to see people posting what I have been saying for a while. : )August 27, 2009 at 4:14 pm#142621GeneBalthropParticipanteveh……….I agree there is great peace and soundness in the TRUTH. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
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