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Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2010,06:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,15:45) Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2010,15:20) edj were is this quote comes from?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
can't find it in my bibles
Hi Terraricca,In case you lack comprehension skills as well, that quote means…
God existed before time existed; do you now understand it's meaning?And it's in “The Bible”…
Psalm 90:2: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
edjif you change the scriptures by your own interpretation ,please stay away ,you are dangerous to my faith,and others as well ,truth can not be change unless you show them side by side,it seems you can not do that so you have a problem,with the way the scriptures are written ,i suggest you fix it.
and do not blame others for your forgery,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,I can understand your lack of comprehension as you are an alien here.
But your advice is unwelcomed and biased towards your lack of understanding Scriptures!
Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2010,07:19) Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2010,06:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,15:45) Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2010,15:20) edj were is this quote comes from?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
can't find it in my bibles
Hi Terraricca,In case you lack comprehension skills as well, that quote means…
God existed before time existed; do you now understand it's meaning?And it's in “The Bible”…
Psalm 90:2: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
edjif you change the scriptures by your own interpretation ,please stay away ,you are dangerous to my faith,and others as well ,truth can not be change unless you show them side by side,it seems you can not do that so you have a problem,with the way the scriptures are written ,i suggest you fix it.
and do not blame others for your forgery,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,I can understand your lack of comprehension as you are an alien here.
But your advice is unwelcomed and biased towards your lack of understanding Scriptures!
Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
edjnow you are stating that by your remark an your quote;?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
you have been inspired by God ??
and this is why you quoting me;Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men
i know that i am a alien in this world and other places,as God and Christ in my hearth i soon will be home and will never be alien again.
but your understanding is mainstream Christian believe and only interpretations of scriptures.views of men.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2010,11:07) Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2010,07:19) Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2010,06:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,15:45) Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2010,15:20) edj were is this quote comes from?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
can't find it in my bibles
Hi Terraricca,In case you lack comprehension skills as well, that quote means…
God existed before time existed; do you now understand it's meaning?And it's in “The Bible”…
Psalm 90:2: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
edjif you change the scriptures by your own interpretation ,please stay away ,you are dangerous to my faith,and others as well ,truth can not be change unless you show them side by side,it seems you can not do that so you have a problem,with the way the scriptures are written ,i suggest you fix it.
and do not blame others for your forgery,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,I can understand your lack of comprehension as you are an alien here.
But your advice is unwelcomed and biased towards your lack of understanding Scriptures!
Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
edjnow you are stating that by your remark an your quote;?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
you have been inspired by God ??
and this is why you quoting me;Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men
i know that i am a alien in this world and other places,as God and Christ in my hearth i soon will be home and will never be alien again.
but your understanding is mainstream Christian believe and only interpretations of scriptures.views of men.
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,What makes people think they can tell others what to do?
Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2010,06:04) Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2010,11:07) Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2010,07:19) Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2010,06:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,15:45) Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2010,15:20) edj were is this quote comes from?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
can't find it in my bibles
Hi Terraricca,In case you lack comprehension skills as well, that quote means…
God existed before time existed; do you now understand it's meaning?And it's in “The Bible”…
Psalm 90:2: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
edjif you change the scriptures by your own interpretation ,please stay away ,you are dangerous to my faith,and others as well ,truth can not be change unless you show them side by side,it seems you can not do that so you have a problem,with the way the scriptures are written ,i suggest you fix it.
and do not blame others for your forgery,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,I can understand your lack of comprehension as you are an alien here.
But your advice is unwelcomed and biased towards your lack of understanding Scriptures!
Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
edjnow you are stating that by your remark an your quote;?”Our GOD, who originated outside of time, has indeed inspired men to pen the very proof of His existence.”
you have been inspired by God ??
and this is why you quoting me;Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men
i know that i am a alien in this world and other places,as God and Christ in my hearth i soon will be home and will never be alien again.
but your understanding is mainstream Christian believe and only interpretations of scriptures.views of men.
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,What makes people think they can tell others what to do?
edji am sure now you would say the sameting to the apostle Paul
or any other apostle.
Pierre
Ed, if you would only give us Scriptures without those numbers, maybe I and others would take you more serious. Numbers I have only seen in Rev. 13 about Antichrist and the Chapters and verse….. I really don't like to learn some other system…. I also believe that not to many here agree with you….. and why??? What reason is there…..?
I just can't see any…. I never liked to get in with you and debate because of those numbers. It simple makes no sense to me….. Take it or leave it…. that is how I feel about it…… Jesus spoke in Parables but not numbers…. IreneHi Irene,
'Your comment' is in the wrong thread as this thread is partially about numbers encoded in Scripture.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTo All: These are “The Seven Spirits” of GOD!
Outside “HolyCity”
117=יהוה האלהים JEHOVAH GOD=95Jehovah God: in “Both” English and Hebrew!
Usually in the signature part of my Post.“HolyCity“
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
God The Father=117 (Representing God's Name and title GOD: יהוה האלהים)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's English Name: “Joshua”)
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
HolySpirit=151 (“The word”: structure of “GOD” indwelling in us believers!)These Names represent “The Five Positions” of “HolyCity”=117
These Names and numbers represent “The Seven Spirits” of GOD!
(HolyCity)26+117+74+63+151+(Outside The HolyCity)117+95=643 (117th Prime Number)
Gematria helps to illustrate the Complete Seven-Fold GOD!Rev.1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace,
from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from The Seven Spirits
which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,
There are seven churches and their seven angels.
Seven such spirits are before God and His throne.Hi Everybody,
YHVH means: Causes to become
When Moses Asked Him His name, he said…
[אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh, which translates into English as…
“I will be what I will be” or “I will be that I will be“YHVH=63 and “will be”=63
Theomatics(numbers relating to God) clearly illustrate who God is.
The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63.
[יהוה] translates directly into English as YHVH.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (t8 @ Oct. 16 2009,21:50) Quote The God Numbers”=151) to verify. Such as “The LORD JEHOVAH”, “Jesus Christ” and “Holy Spirit” which all total 151 Notice the word “the” is used in LORD, but not Holy Spirit.
Would it not be fair to use 'The' in both rather than choosing the combination that fits with what you believe.I think it is fair to say that you can make many things add up the way you want. Just choose where the phrases start and finish and you have some leg room to let probability come out with your desired outcome given that there must be quite a lot of number plays in scripture that you can select from.
I also noticed that you said that Jesus adds up to 74. But if I remember rightly, doesn't Jesus in Greek equal 888? I think the Greek in this case seems to point more to intelligent design. i.e., eight people on Noah's Ark; circumcised on the 8th day; Jesus rose on the first day 8th day of the week. I think also saviour and lord were multiples of 8, (800 each). But even in all that, Jesus Hebrew name was Joshua/Yeshua.
Hi t8,I agree with you.
In America God is YHWH so what happens within this “system” when you make it YHVH. And so what if it is a magical number *** what is that number supposed to represent?
People are going to try to make anything “MYSTICAL” and now with the “AKJV” to boot.
The Bible is tough enough and to waste precious time on this
arbitrariness? WHY???David
Quote (Ed J @ July 10 2010,11:50) To All: These are “The Seven Spirits” of GOD! Outside “HolyCity”
117=יהוה האלהים JEHOVAH GOD=95Jehovah God: in “Both” English and Hebrew!
Usually in the signature part of my Post.“HolyCity“
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
God The Father=117 (Representing God's Name and title GOD: יהוה האלהים)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's English Name: “Joshua”)
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
HolySpirit=151 (“The word”: structure of “GOD” indwelling in us believers!)These Names represent “The Five Positions” of “HolyCity”=117
These Names and numbers represent “The Seven Spirits” of GOD!
(HolyCity)26+117+74+63+151+(Outside The HolyCity)117+95=643 (117th Prime Number)
Gematria helps to illustrate the Complete Seven-Fold GOD!Rev.1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace,
from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from The Seven Spirits
which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjRev.1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace,
from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from The Seven Spirits
which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amenlook closely the 7 spirit do not sit on the throne of God and share God power,they stand in front of the throne so they are subject to the power of God ,and are ruled by God ,SO THE SEVEN SPIRITS ARE NOT GOD,NOT GOD,NOT GOD,GET IT.
they are also in front of Christ throne ,so they will be subject to the power of Christ and so lower in rang,
got it ;;seven spirit NOT GOD,NOT GOD.Pierre
Quote (davidbfun @ July 18 2010,01:36) Hi t8, I agree with you.
In America God is YHWH so what happens within this “system” when you make it YHVH. And so what if it is a magical number *** what is that number supposed to represent?
People are going to try to make anything “MYSTICAL” and now with the “AKJV” to boot.
The Bible is tough enough and to waste precious time on this
arbitrariness? WHY???David
Hi David,Sorry to hear The Bible confuses you.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Everybody,
You probably need to study this one for a while!
In English, the significant number (74) is attributed to JOSHUA=74, Messiah=74;
also in the following: JESUS=74, Cross=74, Gospel=74, עד=74, and even English=74.
Jesus Christ (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
[Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
[Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).one hundred and forty four thousand=373 (Rev.14:3)
JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS=373 (John 19:19)(Lōgôs) [λογος]=373 means “Word”, and 373 is the 74th Prime Number!
(Hō Lōgôs) [ο λογος]=443 means “The Word” and 443 is the 86th Prime Number. (John 1:1)
“God Word”=86 and אלהים=86 ĔL-ō-Hêêm both equal 86 and ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63 means “YHVH”=63.It's a simple matter of simple number associations, I will illustrate what they mean…
I'm lining up these ideas up better for you to see what the numbers represent; OK?The “HolySpirit” is “The Word”(of God)!
Hebrew=Greek
(86)אלהים=ο λογος(86th Prime)
(ĔL-ō-Hêêm)God=The Word(Hō Lōgôs)God=86 in Hebrew and “The Word”=86 in Greek ARE EQUAL.
Theomatic numbers to prime number counterparts. (John 1:1)This symbol ( > ) means GREATER THAN in mathematics
The pieces fit together perfectly: “The Word” (86) > “Word” (74).
In English it's comparable to (The LORD JEHOVAH) > (Lord Jesus=74) is the “God Son”=74!
“The Owner” > “Owner “
JEHOVAH > Jesus
86 > 74The… “Paradox” is (JEHOVAH)God(=86) is both equal and unequal to (greater than and equal to) Jesus=74(God Son=74)!
HolySpirit151 is The LORD JEHOVAH151 and the HolySpirit's Son is “Jesus Christ”151! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)
John 1:1: “The Word”(HolySpirit) is God(The LORD JEHOVAH). And our family goes by the title (AKJV) LORD of Hosts=151!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,00:14) Quote (davidbfun @ July 18 2010,01:36) Hi t8, I agree with you.
In America God is YHWH so what happens within this “system” when you make it YHVH. And so what if it is a magical number *** what is that number supposed to represent?
People are going to try to make anything “MYSTICAL” and now with the “AKJV” to boot.
The Bible is tough enough and to waste precious time on this
arbitrariness? WHY???David
Hi David,Sorry to hear The Bible confuses you.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,It is true that I don't know everything in the Bible, as you.
And to think that if the Bible is “confusing” imagine trying to extract words in English that have been translated from Hebrew and put them into a “magical mystery” brew and make sense from it….especially since we don't agree on the words. i.e. In America we use YHWH. You use YHVH. Translators use LORD….
However, I do know my God. The 7 spirits that I see in the Bible are in Isaiah 11:2 and they are:
Spirit of YHVH
Fear of YHVH
Counsel
Power (Strength)
Knowledge
Understanding
WisdomThese 7 comprise the “entity” I know as “The Holy Spirit”.
I noticed that you didn't want to address the importance of WHY to spend time trying to learn an arbitrary numbering system.
Because I don't see any relevance in this contrived man-made system you jump to the conclusion that the Bible confuses me….what a leap!
If you haven't noticed almost every other person responded in the negative. Tell me one thing, what is gained by trying to learn this? And what motive do you have for trying to “sell” it?
David
Quote (davidbfun @ July 21 2010,23:48) Hi Ed, In America we use YHWH. You use YHVH.
David
Hi David,Psalm 45:17 I will make thy name (YHVH) to be remembered in all
generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.
Romans 10:13-15 For whosoever shall call upon [the name of The LORD]
shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?
and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they
hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written…Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד=74 (Ed) (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (davidbfun @ July 21 2010,23:48) Hi Ed, It is true that I don't know everything in the Bible, as you.
David
Hi David,Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shall keep them, O LORD(YHVH), thou shall preserve them(in The AKJV Bible) from this generation forever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips “and another tongue” will (That is: in English) “HE” speak to this people.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Reliance on numbers instead of truth is a trap.
You cannot discern between God and His Spirit.Hi Nick,
God and his Spirit are one and the same. (John 4:24 / John 1:1 / Eph.4:4-6)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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