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- September 28, 2009 at 6:55 pm#147778NickHassanParticipant
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When a spirit goes out of a man it wanders through dry places and then says to itself…it takes seven spirits back with it.
The last state of that man is worse.Then there was the man in which there was a legion…The boy who threw himself in the fire..The pigs plunging into the sea…
You may have forgotten about these things but a short walk through say the book of Mark will bring them to your memory
October 1, 2009 at 6:20 pm#148175NickHassanParticipantG,
You say in another thread
Nick………When (any) man dies (HIS) Spirit returns to (him who gave it). Now your contradicting scriptures again. Spirit is simply (intellect ) and it empowers us with Thought or the Mind, the power we all ready have given us by berth into these bodies give us power to carry out our thoughts, and if these thoughts are from the Spirit or Intellect or thoughts of GOD they produce the fruits of that SPIRIT from the INTELLECT of GOD. Which is a higher Standard then that Spirit (intellect) That comes from the world. The “natural ” man is simply a man that has the intellect he recieved from the world, as John said. You said the Father of Spirits does not pour His Spirit into unclean vessels is totally wrong , How do you think His cleans those “unclean” vessels it not by his Spirit. For you are (being) (WASHED) by the WASHING of the WORD. This Word is SPIRIT and it DOES Cleans US from all unrighteous thinking. When we meditate on God's words we are sowing to the Spirit. Your lack of understanding about spirit is not surprising seeing you don't believe what Jesus said about it. IMO'Please go through your post and prove these ideas from scripture or accept they are just from you.
Reliance on extrabiblical 'truths' is what defines gnosticism.October 1, 2009 at 6:38 pm#148176NickHassanParticipantG,
You do admit it is your opinion but since this opinion has been presented hundreds of times here is it not time to dig deeper and find some scriptural foundation for such opinions or give them up?December 13, 2009 at 8:48 pm#164134NickHassanParticipantHi,
Gene Balthrop said this in another thread
“Thinker……..your reliance on Scriptures rather then the Spirit of GOD, causes you much confusion. Let the Spirit (intellect) of GOD lead you and your will see the fallaciously of you beliefs. It not wrong to read scriptures but it takes the Spirit of God to properly understand them. (the spirit of truth) (intellect of truth) given by GOD the FATHER. IMO”Test all things-by what is written.
Adding to or removing from scripture shows you are not of the Spirit.
So if you are deceived by a false spirit you cannot find your way back as scripture is a lamp to your feet.December 13, 2009 at 10:08 pm#164156GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….If you don't have the SPIRIT of TRUTH in you what you said is right you can be lead by a false Spirit (intellect), However (IF) you have the SPIRIT of TRUTH in you you can (NEVER) be Deceived,. That is why I and others can tell what is truth Here and what is NOT of the TRUTH, That is exactly why i know you can Parrot scripture but Lack the True understanding of them. When you do not agree with the truth when presented it shows us you lack of KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING. Trying to discredit me only shows you lack of understanding Nick.
gene
December 13, 2009 at 10:18 pm#164157GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,06:55) G,
When a spirit goes out of a man it wanders through dry places and then says to itself…it takes seven spirits back with it.
The last state of that man is worse.Then there was the man in which there was a legion…The boy who threw himself in the fire..The pigs plunging into the sea…
You may have forgotten about these things but a short walk through say the book of Mark will bring them to your memory
Nick………All thoughts a person rejects will leave Him for a while and will return also, and if He has not replaced them with the word of GOD, he will entertain them again and if he continues in that thinking he will get worse and worse, and indeed his last state will be worse then his first state. Simple true LOGIC should let you understand that. As far as the man who had a apoplectic attack that Jesus healed that was not a demon (BEING) but a mental problem as many have today. And the man who had a legion of demonic thoughts in him GOD sent these into the Pigs and they went crazy to and ran into the sea, and drowned.gene
December 13, 2009 at 10:18 pm#164158NickHassanParticipantG,
So if you are deceived you will never know it?
Check the Word and do not adjust it.December 13, 2009 at 10:25 pm#164160GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,06:55) G,
When a spirit goes out of a man it wanders through dry places and then says to itself…it takes seven spirits back with it.
The last state of that man is worse.Then there was the man in which there was a legion…The boy who threw himself in the fire..The pigs plunging into the sea…
You may have forgotten about these things but a short walk through say the book of Mark will bring them to your memory
Nick………All thoughts a person rejects will leave Him for a while and will return also, and if He has not replaced them with the word of GOD, he will entertain them again and if he continues in that thinking he will get worse and worse, and indeed his last state will be worse then his first state. Simple true LOGIC should let you understand that. As far as the man who had a apoplectic attack that Jesus healed that was not a demon (BEING) but a mental problem as many have today. And the man who had a legion of demonic thoughts in him GOD sent these into the Pigs and they went crazy and ran into the sea, and drowned. Nick thought you reject some of the false teachings of the apostate church you still hold onto many as many do here.gene
December 13, 2009 at 10:27 pm#164161GeneBalthropParticipantNick………and if you are decieved you will never know it , so try to get understanding from the words of GOD and maybe Prayer might Help you to understand what you are reading.
gene
December 13, 2009 at 10:52 pm#164164NickHassanParticipantG,
Are you allowed to substitute your words for the teachings of Jesus?
Are you trying to correct him as BD used to try to do?
Will the one you call master be pleased?December 14, 2009 at 12:24 am#164172GeneBalthropParticipantNick………there is no substituting Just simple understanding of what is written, that some seem to lack here.
gene
December 14, 2009 at 12:29 am#164173NickHassanParticipantG,
So for you the intellect rules over scriptural truth?
FiguresDecember 14, 2009 at 12:42 am#164178GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..Don't put words in my mouth, your wrong again, the SPIRIT of TRUTH (IS) the INTELLECT of THE TRUTH. What bible are you using to not know even that. Are you still a novice Nick? Try to understand more of what Scripture is really saying Nick. GO back and read very slowly what Jesus said the words He Spoke WERE, and let the light come on for a change. If you have GOD'S Spirit it should be easy to understand for you.
gene
December 14, 2009 at 12:44 am#164179NickHassanParticipantG,
Understanding is not the key.
Self effort is not the way.
Wisdom is of the Word.[Lk11]December 14, 2009 at 12:58 am#164187GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….So to you ignorance is the key right? But you say by your FEAR you self is made right (FREE WILL) SALVATION RIGHT, now your changing and saying self effort is not the way, amazing how you vacillate. And for the record (Wisdom of GOD) includes understanding and Knowledge. Wisdom is (NOT) of the WORLD, it is of GOD. The wisdom from the world is less then that of GOD but non the less it is still wisdom. Like i said if you really understood what was written you would not be making such senseless statements as these.
gene
December 14, 2009 at 12:59 am#164188NickHassanParticipantG,
Knowledge without wisdom is disasterous.
Seek the wisdom of the Word before you spout off.December 14, 2009 at 1:08 am#164192GeneBalthropParticipantNick………Good advice take it before you spout off.
gene
December 14, 2009 at 1:15 am#164195NickHassanParticipantG,
Soak in scripture and let it change your thoughts to those of The Spirit.
The rest is gnostic.December 14, 2009 at 1:38 am#164202GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….Again good advice take it, it truly is what YOU need Here.
December 14, 2009 at 2:34 am#164222NickHassanParticipantG,
This is a scripture study site.
So why do you use it to promote the word of Gene Balthrop? - AuthorPosts
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