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    TimothyVI
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    It seems that remnants of the earlier genes still exist in modern animals.
    I saw a report recently about reverse engineering genes in a chicken. Since a chicken evolved from a dinosaur, scientists may be able to cause some of the dormant genes to again become active, creating a new chicasaur.

    Tim

    #236355
    Stu
    Participant
    #236612
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    A chicken with crocodile teeth may be a little
    more intimidating to the Kentucky Colonel.

    Tim

    #236623
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 18 2011,14:49)
    Here is a list of transitional forms between reptile-like ancestors and mammals:


    Hi Stu,

    So you say.  I was wondering why we don't have an equally long list of the creatures that spanned the changes from gills and scales to feet and air breathing lungs.

    Or the span from reptiles to feathered, flying birds.

    I thank you for taking the time out of your life to share information with me.  I can't seem to get my head around a “perfect way” to put into words the points I'm trying to make.

    If and when it comes to me, you'll be the first one I hit up with it, okay?  :) In the meantime, you carry on thinking that some non-intelligent force just “fluked” us all into being………….and I'll stick with the truth that everything about this earth and the solar system screams “INTELLIGENT CREATOR”. :)  

    mike

    #236644
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    “fluked us”??   …You mean it was just “a fluke”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #236686
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    What are you asking, Ed? Stu thinks it was a “fluke”, I think we have a wonderful and caring Creator who put things in perfect order and harmony.

    mike

    #236702
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,02:13)

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 18 2011,14:49)
    Here is a list of transitional forms between reptile-like ancestors and mammals:


    Hi Stu,

    So you say.  I was wondering why we don't have an equally long list of the creatures that spanned the changes from gills and scales to feet and air breathing lungs.

    Or the span from reptiles to feathered, flying birds.

    I thank you for taking the time out of your life to share information with me.  I can't seem to get my head around a “perfect way” to put into words the points I'm trying to make.

    If and when it comes to me, you'll be the first one I hit up with it, okay?  :)  In the meantime, you carry on thinking that some non-intelligent force just “fluked” us all into being………….and I'll stick with the truth that everything about this earth and the solar system screams “INTELLIGENT CREATOR”.  :)  

    mike


    There are equally long lists for those other transitions! I just posted one list as an example.

    I think it is worth the effort to define those questions as well as you can. In that way you can really come to a critical understanding of what it is to know our origins.

    You are entitled to whatever religious story makes you happy. The more you ask those questions above, the more you realise that actually there is no satisfactory explanation to be had by the concept of “intelligent creator”, actually no explanation at all.

    You will appreciate that I do not agree with your characterisation of natural history as “fluking” things, and I certainly disagree that the Judeo-christian god can be characterised as “caring”, of you mean the petulant genocidal monster described in scripture.

    Stuart

    #236785
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 20 2011,21:29)
    the petulant genocidal monster described in scripture.


    May God forgive you, Stu.

    #236790
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,13:44)

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 20 2011,21:29)
    the petulant genocidal monster described in scripture.


    May God forgive you, Stu.


    Don't you mean may I forgive “him”?

    Stuart

    #238350
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote
    It seems that remnants of the earlier genes still exist in modern animals.
    I saw a report recently about reverse engineering genes in a chicken. Since a chicken evolved from a dinosaur, scientists may be able to cause some of the dormant genes to again become active, creating a new chicasaur.

    Tim


    Or perhaps there is a code base for all living things and all our difference are expressed higher up the stack?

    E.g., Photoshop and MS Word are completely different, but sit on the same code stack, the OS.

    #238351
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 20 2011,21:45)
    A chicken with crocodile teeth may be a little
    more intimidating to the Kentucky Colonel.

    Tim


    Yeah that would scare me. It would be up there with a murderous clown.

    #238352
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 18 2011,21:24)
    It seems that remnants of the earlier genes still exist in modern animals.
    I saw a report recently about reverse engineering genes in a chicken. Since a chicken evolved from a dinosaur, scientists may be able to cause some of the dormant genes to again become active, creating a new chicasaur.

    Tim


    40 something percent of human DNA is in common with daffodil DNA.

    Perhaps it is possible to turn Stu into a flower by turning off and on the right combinations.

    It could be a new experience for him as he seems to concentrate heavily on his ape side.

    #238535
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2011,10:22)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 18 2011,21:24)
    It seems that remnants of the earlier genes still exist in modern animals.
    I saw a report recently about reverse engineering genes in a chicken. Since a chicken evolved from a dinosaur, scientists may be able to cause some of the dormant genes to again become active, creating a new chicasaur.

    Tim


    40 something percent of human DNA is in common with daffodil DNA.

    Perhaps it is possible to turn Stu into a flower by turning off and on the right combinations.

    It could be a new experience for him as he seems to concentrate heavily on his ape side.


    I'd hate to disappoint you t8, so I'll remind you that I also concentrate on your “ape origins” too. And the fact that you and I ARE both apes by definition.

    Shame you cannot have any pride in your distant ancestry.

    Why are you embarrassed about that?

    Or is it because you can't let facts get in the way of a selfish salvation project that gets you into eternity ahead of others.

    Maybe that is survival of the fittest…or of the most deluded.

    Stuart

    #238554
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 17 2011,23:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 17 2011,22:12)

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 17 2011,19:02)

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 17 2011,15:02)
    mikeboll64

    Regarding whether it would matter if every living thing died tomorrow,
    you are a very small percentage away from what has actually happened in history.  
    99% of all species that ever lived have gone extinct, including many species of human.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    How many different “Species” of Human are there?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    One.  Why do you ask?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    That's what I thought. But in your quote,
    it looks like you are implying there are many?
    Perhaps you can explain this noted discrepancy?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Did you note my use of the past tense earlier?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    How many 'species' of human were there (according to Stuart) in the past?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #238558
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2011,20:15)
    Hi Stuart,

    How many 'species' of human were there (according to Stuart) in the past?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I'd say at least these 14 but would concede that the number is probably more, depending on your definition of species and your definition of human:

    Homo antecessor, Homo cepranensis, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo floresiensis, Homo gautengensis, Homo georgicus, Homo habilis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo rhodesiensis, Homo rudolfensis, Homo sapiens idaltu, and Homo sapiens sapiens.

    Why do you ask?

    Do they all add up to 151?

    Stuart

    #238559
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,20:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2011,20:15)
    Hi Stuart,

    How many 'species' of human were there (according to Stuart) in the past?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I'd say at least these 14 but would concede that the number is probably more, depending on your definition of species and your definition of human:

    Homo antecessor, Homo cepranensis, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo floresiensis, Homo gautengensis, Homo georgicus, Homo habilis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo rhodesiensis, Homo rudolfensis, Homo sapiens idaltu, and Homo sapiens sapiens.

    Why do you ask?

    Do they all add up to 151?

    Stuart


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    Do they all add up to 151?

          HA Ha ha ha.   …NO; they all add up to 83.

    There is only one 'species' of Human!
    And YHVH does not Create 'homo's'!

    .

    #238563
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2011,20:48)
    There is only one 'species' of Human!
    And YHVH does not Create 'homo's'!

    .


    If you know all the answers, why do you ask?

    I hope you don't think you are mocking me, because it is you exposing your ignorance to the world.

    Very brave, Ed.

    Stuart

    #238564
    Stu
    Participant

    What is a YHVH?

    Stuart

    #238579
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,21:43)
    What is a YHVH?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

                 
                       (26)יהוה  =  God(26)

    YHVH is (יהוה) God's Name transliterated directly into English.
    The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #238689
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,01:42)

    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,21:43)
    What is a YHVH?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

                 
                       (26)יהוה  =  God(26)

    YHVH is (יהוה) God's Name transliterated directly into English.
    The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    What is a god?

    Stuart

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