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ED J………Jodi is right , Jesus plainly said it , read Her post and see if what is said it true or not. The proper rending of what you quote is (NOW IS (A) DAY OF SALVATION) NOT (the) as in the sense of the (ONLY) day). Scripture Plainly shows GOD has (NOT) chosen every one or opened their minds to the truth by his Spirit of Truth, many he has blinded and will later be saved after the resurrection , God is only calling a Few at this time to serve with Jesus in the Kingdom, As servants in the Millennial reign. God's Purpose is to save all of man kind , even if it takes the Lake of Fire (intense Judgment) “for our God is A CONSUMING FIRE”.
peace and love……………gene
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2010,18:21) Jodi I think it is totally a false gospel to go around telling people that Christ is their savior and if they don't accept him they are doomed.
you see Jodi ,this is your thinking and understanding ,influenced by your religion you are attending.
this is your choice ,and i respect that ,but only so far,the truth as to stay truth,
if some one use the scriptures ,he is using the word of God not is own,and that s were i have a probleme with there explanation of Gods word,
here is were divisions starts,and religion comes in,
and i want to be guided by God not by men, but this is my spirit,understanding Gods spirit through Christ.
The Gospel is about believing in the NAME of Jesus, it's about understanding CHRIST.John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
BELIEVE that Jesus was BORN of the Will of God and we too become born of that Will. His anointing is MY anointing.
1 Timothy 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. 10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
I do TRUST in the living God and know that He is the savior of ALL men and I understand this through the NAME of Jesus our Christ. For the anointing of Jesus is my anointing.
1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
Romans 5:16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous. 20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,
Did we choose to be born in a world of sin and death?
Just as we did not choose to be born into such, we also do not choose God's mercy and grace. As we bore the image of Adam we shall bare the image of Jesus Christ.
The above scripture clearly states that where sin abounded GRACE abounded MUCH MORE.
YHWH does not have the power to save some, He has the ability and power to save ALL, and scripture clearly states that He IS the savior of ALL men.
Zechariah 13:9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, 'This is My people'; And each one will say, 'The Lord is my God.' ”
God CAUSES people to believe in Him and it is referred to as being brought through the FIRE. We see in the end idolaters, liars, murderers, sexual immoral are cast into the lake of fire, and so is death cast into the fire. The liar is no more because the liar has been refined into a heavenly man.
Ezekiel 36:25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.
2 Peter 3:9The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
Where sin abounded GRACE will abound MUCH MORE, for we are all IN Christ, for as God saved one it represented HOW He saves ALL. God WILL give His Spirit to ALL and CAUSE ALL to walk in His ways for He is NOT willing that any perish. God did not plan a resurrection just to have men fall to the dust again.
Jodi……….Those who believe in so-called “FREE WILLS”, Hate that , because it strips them of all their (OWN) righteousness and their PRIDE is crushed. Salvation is (ALL) of GOD the FATHER , from Adam to the last person born, not because who (they) are, but because who GOD the FATHER (IS). GOD is LOVE, Love does (NOT) DESTROY, BUT SAVES. GOD said he looked for (ONE) righteous MAN and FOUND NON, there for He took it upon His (OWN) Arm to bring (SALVATION). O the richness and the goodness of our GREAT GOD, and FATHER.
Jodi peace and love to you and yours, continue to let the Spirit have it's perfect work…………………gene
Quote (Gene @ Feb. 15 2010,04:56) ED J………Jodi is right , Jesus plainly said it , read Her post and see if what is said it true or not. The proper rending of what you quote is (NOW IS (A) DAY OF SALVATION) NOT (the) as in the sense of the (ONLY) day). Scripture Plainly shows GOD has (NOT) chosen every one or opened their minds to the truth by his Spirit of Truth, many he has blinded and will later be saved after the resurrection , God is only calling a Few at this time to serve with Jesus in the Kingdom, As servants in the Millennial reign. God's Purpose is to save all of man kind , even if it takes the Lake of Fire (intense Judgment) “for our God is A CONSUMING FIRE”. peace and love……………gene
Exactly Gene, the Fire is an intense judgment.Ezekiel 36:24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!” 33 'Thus says the Lord God: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, 'This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.'
When God cleanses people they see the error of their ways and feel repentant. This cleansing is referred to as being cast through the fire. This is not something that man chooses but what God causes. Do we let our children choose if they want to be disciplined or not? Do we dare compare our inabilities to properly mold our children through our disciplinary measures to God's abilities?
The idea that the lake of fire represents a place where people who were just resurrected represents a place of literal fire where people are burned is ridiculous and quite horrible.
It's amazing, or rather disturbing Gene, how people love such a dark and ugly gospel as the one they believe.
Love to you brother and thanks so much for all your encouragement, Jodi
Quote (Gene @ Feb. 15 2010,06:07) Jodi……….Those who believe in so-called “FREE WILLS”, Hate that , because it strips them of all their (OWN) righteousness and their PRIDE is crushed. Salvation is (ALL) of GOD the FATHER , from Adam to the last person born, not because who (they) are, but because who GOD the FATHER (IS). GOD is LOVE, Love does (NOT) DESTROY, BUT SAVES. GOD said he looked for (ONE) righteous MAN and FOUND NON, there for He took it upon His (OWN) Arm to bring (SALVATION). O the richness and the goodness of our GREAT GOD, and FATHER. Jodi peace and love to you and yours, continue to let the Spirit have it's perfect work…………………gene
Why do you deny my “Free Will” PROOF!Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,15:52) Quote (Gene @ Feb. 13 2010,14:51) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,14:15) Quote (Gene @ Feb. 13 2010,04:27) To All………the question is not, do we have WILLS, we definitely DO. The question (IS) are they (FREE) or not. I maintain they are (NOT) Free at ALL, But (INFLUENCED) Wills. Because there EXISTS NO SUCH THING AS A “FREE” WILL. So in order to understand this we must understand what the word “FREE” truly means. Free means to exist in a state without (ANY) Influences , No such state exists with regards to a Will. Not man nor GOD, all Will contain influences and acts on the (GREATEST) of those influences. The very word, WILL itself shows us that, it is being influenced or it simply would Not be a WILL. Wills involve a determined desire that produces an outcome. They are Far from FREE. Many are getting LIBERTY or FREEDOM to (EXERCISE) THOSE (INFLUENCED WILLS), with the word “FREE WILL”. Scripture does not show that any so-called “FREE” Will exists. But shows WILLS exist in a state of being held Captive by our Thoughts. No one here has proven differently by any supportive scriptures yet produced.
Kerwin……..You are right in regards to GOD setting up situations in our lives, to prove us, I have had that happen to me before. Once when i was in business as an Electrical Contractor, I had a situation come up that at the time I had no idea GOD Hand was involved until later it became very obvious. I had bid a Job that required a Special large 1200 amp Electrical 3 phase 4 wire service it was quite expensive around 10,000.00 Dollars, it was for a church, and the Pastor said it would take about 30 day to raise the money needed , so I ask the supply house if they could hold the price for thirty days, He said thy would, so within the thirty days the pastor of the church called and said He had the money needed a told me to go ahead and order the service Panel. When i went to the Supply house and told them to go ahead and order it , They informed me it would be another Two thousand Dollars for it. I informed them that i had entered into a contract with the Church for it and could not go back and ask for more money from them. But they refused to lower the price to the original quote, so I became furious with them and said I would no longer do any business with them again, and went storming out and When i came back to the office , I told my secretary what had happened, and said i will have to Just take the loss and order it from another supplier which was about two thousand dollars more, I had no sooner told Her that when the Phone rang and another electrical contractor who I never knew wanted to talk with Me , He informed me that he had Heard that i Bought used Eclectically equipment from a friend, and He had some He wanted to sell, I ask him what it was, and He said a 1200 Hundred amp electrical service Panel which he had ordered for a Job and the owner had went bankrupt, and He has it sitting at the site it was brand New and never been installed, It was even better then the one I had bid on because it was an Outdoor service instead of an indoor one that i had bid. So I ask him what He wanted for it and he said 2700.00 Dollars. Now the odds of that ever happening accidentally would be One in a BILLION . That service panel Had be sitting there months, before My situation happened. I earnestly believe GOD did that to prove my integrity. if i would keep my the word of my bid or not. And i would have even if it cost me another 2,000.00 dollars more. Then GOD gave me the blessing. So I do believe GOD sets up situations in our lives to try us and test our resolves It gives us courage to continue to do those things that are right also, and He rewards us for doing what is right.
Some would say, see that was to test your “FREE” WILL, but no it was not, GOD already knew what i Would DO, It was to encourage me to continue to do what was right in GOD'S EYES, and Not the way of the World.
I maintain there is (NO) Such Thing as a “FREE” WILL, but (ONLY) INFLUENCED WILLS that are allowed Liberty or Freedom to chose it's (INFLUENCED DESIRES), by GOD. But in the end ONLY ONE WILL will be DONE and THAT IS GOD”S WILL> IMO
peace and love to you all…………………..gene
Hi Gene,10,000-2,700= $7,200
How much of the ($7,200) savings did you pass on to the Church?Ed J
ED J …..A better question would be why did you bring up this subject. What does that have to do with anything. That has nothing to do with the point i was making, Rather i gave it all or Kept it all, it was all in my power to do as i so Chose.Trying to create negative images is a sin ED J. What if i said non , because the church was a synagogue of Satan, or if i said i gave it all to them, Whats your Point?
Hi Gene,'it was all in my power to do as i so Chose'.
Thank you; You just helped me PROVE “Free Will”!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Gene @ Feb. 15 2010,04:56) ED J………Jodi is right , Jesus plainly said it , read Her post and see if what is said it true or not. The proper rending of what you quote is (NOW IS (A) DAY OF SALVATION) NOT (the) as in the sense of the (ONLY) day). Scripture Plainly shows GOD has (NOT) chosen every one or opened their minds to the truth by his Spirit of Truth, many he has blinded and will later be saved after the resurrection , God is only calling a Few at this time to serve with Jesus in the Kingdom, As servants in the Millennial reign. God's Purpose is to save all of man kind , even if it takes the Lake of Fire (intense Judgment) “for our God is A CONSUMING FIRE”. peace and love……………gene
Hi Gene,What about these verses…
Isaiah 33:10-17 Now will I rise, saith the LORD;
now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.
Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble:
your breath, as fire, shall devour you.
And the people shall be as the burnings of lime:
as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.
Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done;
and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.
The sinners in Zion are afraid;
fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites.
Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire?
who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly;
he that despiseth the gain of oppressions,
that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes,
that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood,
and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil; He shall dwell on high:
his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks:
bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.
Thine (Ed J) eyes shall see (Jesus=74) “the king”=74 in his beauty:
they shall behold the land that is very far off. (are you part of they)Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
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you confused with opportunity,freewill,responsibility,Gods will,robot ism,and likes.
this occurs wen you replace Gods will with yours.
ED J……….If you read what you posted (CAREFULLY) You have your answer. “who among us shall (DWELL) (With) the devouring Fire?
who will?, DWELL (WITH) the DEVOURING FIRE (intense judgments of God) He that walks righteously, and speaks uprightly……..> All the DWELL (WITH) the DEVOURING FIRE (God's intense Judgements) is the DEVOURING FIRE. “FOR OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE”. God Fiery Judgments are to Purify People (not to destory them)> JUDGMENT begins at the house of GOD, “NOW CONCERNING THIS (FIERY) TRIAL THAT HAS TRIED YOU AS IF SOME STRANGE THING HAS HAPPENED UNTO YOU”> and again, “EVERY MAN WORK SHALL BE TRIED, IF HE HAS BUILT WITH GOLD AND SILVER AND PRECIOUS STONE , HE SHALL RECEIVE A REWARD, IF HE HAS BUILT WITH STRAW, HAY, OR STUBBLE, IT SHALL BE BURNED UP, (BUT) HE SHALL BE SAVED (YET) AS BY (FIRE)”, (intense Judgements of God). Evil is considered as DROSS and WE as GOLD and GOD applies the Heat of JUDGMENTS to PURIFY US Just as fire purify s Gold. The Dross rises to the surface and is skimmed off leaving the purified Metal. Same with us, GOD intense Judgments purifies us. “OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE”. IMOgene
there is no one more deaf than the man who does not want to hear,no one is more blind than the man who do not want to see.
freewill is true and we all responsible for our actions,only the devil offers free rides,not so free the end result is dead.like Adam
God purifies us if we put to practice his word,if we don't this means we do not want him in our live.
if we spread lies we are only serve Satan kingdom.Terricca…..Your Self Salvation is a delusion, Your so-called “FREE WILL” ideology is not capable of saving anyone much less yourself. WE WHO ARE SAVED, ARE SAVED BY (GRACE) AND THAT (NOT) OF OURSELVES, AS YOU STRIVE TO DO. You have not it seems surrendered to GOD, But continue to maintain your OWN SELF Righteousness. Thinking you can save yourself, by your captivated WILL. WE put nothing to (PRACTICE) GOD Puts His Spirit into our Hearts and Minds and creates NEW, BY the TRANSFORMING OF OUR MINDS. You self created salvation is a delusion that is far from the truth of GOD or HIS Word. IMO
Adam……….You have said it right , they truly think they are the masters of their own destinies . They have no idea of the (CAPTIVITY) of their own WILLS have Hold on them, and they seek to serve it rather then GOD. They have become an (I) god unto themselves, and their Pride refuses to let them humble themselves, so it maintains it's so-called “FREE WILL” salvation. Even though no where in scripture is even Mention that Man Has a “FREE” WILL in HIM. Just the blind leading the blind brother. But there are some (very few) who do understand. These have the SPIRIT (intellect) of TRUTH in them, given by GOD the FATHER. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours Adam……………..gene
gene
we who have freewill know who they serve and worship,and follow God and Christ spirit ,
all the other follow some influence in them this is the devil will because it is his will that s influencing this world.away from the will of God.please make your choice now it still time.
gene
why is it that your always have to distord other people truth and view without scriptures even scriptures you transform them to your likes,diregarding there meaning,
all who have chosen to serve God and follow Christ have responded to the call of Christ of there own freewill,they could see that the devil influences the will of the others and by doing so have found the true way to Christ.
we know it still time to chose out of are the freewill and remove the evil influences who prevent some to see the truth and be saved.
Terraricca……….The only one changing Meanings Here is YOU by your so-called “FREE” WILL non scripture thinking. I have listed and quoted many scriptures that back up what i have said, Your continual rejection of them Shows your ignorance. You have posted (NO) Scripture that states WE HAVE a “FREE” WILL. I have posted many that show the opposite, But your our own (SELF WILL) which is far from FREE will not let you accept the truth of those scriptures. IMO
Terraricca………..Just talking and pushing your belief system and dogmas with out (ANY) Scriptural reference that states your dogmas, only shows you ignorance about the subject matter being discussed. GO back a reread all the many scriptures I Have posted concerning the Subject on YOUR FALSELY assumed “FREE WILL”, and may be this time you might understand them. To hold on to a belief without (ANY) scriptures Backing you UP is ignorance at best. IMO
GENE
I HAVE QUOTED SO MANY VERSES AND SOME OTHER HAVE JOINTLY SHOW COLOSAL AMOUNT OF SCRIPTURES ,BUT YOU DO NOT EVEN COMMENT ON IT ,YOU HAVE TO TWIST THE VERSES TO MAKE THEM SUPPORT YOUR VIEWS ,OF INFLUENCES,LIBERTY OF WILL OR FREEWILL AND RESPONSABILITY OF YOUR CHOICES ARE ALL THE SAME ,
CHRIST SAY THE ONES WHO LOVE ME OBEY ME;HE DOES NOT SAY WE ARE FORCED BY INFLUENCE IN ANY WAY BUT THE DEVIL.GENE
Dt 5:28 The LORD heard you when you spoke to me and the LORD said to me, “I have heard what this people said to you. Everything they said was good.
Dt 5:29 Oh, that their hearts would be inclined to fear me and keep all my commands always, so that it might go well with them and their children forever!Dt 6:5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength
Dt 6:12 be careful that you do not forget the LORD, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Dt 6:13 Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name.
Dt 6:14 Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you;
Dt 7:11 Therefore, take care to follow the commands, decrees and laws I give you today.
Dt 7:12 If you pay attention to these laws and are careful to follow them, then the LORD your God will keep his covenant of love with you, as he swore to your forefathers.WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW GODS WAY ,WE SHOULD FOR OUR OWN GOOD ,PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL IS YOUR CHOICE ,IF YOU DON'T WANTED IT WILL BE YOUR RESPONSABILITY YOU TOOK UPON YOURSELF THE CHOICE OF YOUR WILL.
NOT INFLUENCE ,ONLY INFLUENCE BY YOUR OWN INSIDE CUP.GENE
SOME MORE SCRIPTURES;
Jer 25:29 See, I am beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears my Name, and will you indeed go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am calling down a sword upon all who live on the earth, declares the LORD Almighty.’
Pr 19:9 A false witness will not go unpunished,
and he who pours out lies will perish.
Pr 28:20 A faithful man will be richly blessed,
but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.Job 10:14 If I sinned, you would be watching me
and would not let my offense go unpunishedIsa 1:19 If you are willing and obedient,
you will eat the best from the land;
Isa 1:20 but if you resist and rebel,
you will be devoured by the sword.”
For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.Isa 1:15 When you spread out your hands in prayer,
I will hide my eyes from you;
even if you offer many prayers,
I will not listen.
Your hands are full of blood;
Isa 1:16 wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds
out of my sight!
Stop doing wrong,
Isa 1:17 learn to do right!
Seek justice,does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?
Will he not repay each person according to what he has done?Isa 1:13 Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
Your incense is detestable to me.
New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—
I cannot bear your evil assemblies.
Isa 1:14 Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts
my soul hates.Pr 24:1 Do not envy wicked men,
do not desire their company;
Pr 24:2 for their hearts plot violence,
and their lips talk about making trouble.Pr 23:26 My son, give me your heart
and let your eyes keep to my ways,Pr 23:15 My son, if your heart is wise,
then my heart will be glad;
Pr 23:16 my inmost being will rejoice
when your lips speak what is right.Pr 23:17 Do not let your heart envy sinners,
but always be zealous for the fear of the LORD.
Pr 23:18 There is surely a future hope for you,
and your hope will not be cut off.Ps 9:17 The wicked return to the grave,
all the nations that forget God.Ps 5:4 You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil;
with you the wicked cannot dwell.
Ps 5:5 The arrogant cannot stand in your presence;
you hate all who do wrong.
Ps 5:6 You destroy those who tell lies;
bloodthirsty and deceitful men
the LORD abhors.GENE
SOME MORE SCRIPTURES TO SUPPORT FREEWILL;
Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each otherEph 5:15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise,
Eph 5:16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evilRo 8:7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.
as for your example to the sinful nature is related to the law ,it as nothing to do with our free will ,but with the law of moses and the need for Christ,read this many times it is not easy to understand,
Ro 7:12 So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
Ro 7:14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin.
Ro 7:16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.
Ro 7:21 So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.
Ro 7:22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law;
Ro 7:23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members.
Ro 7:25 Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
Ro 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
Ro 8:3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man,
Ro 8:4 in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.in Christ with you.
GENE
SOME MORE SUPPORT FOR FREEWILL
Eph 2:1 You were living in your sins and lawless ways. But in fact you were dead.
Eph 2:2 You used to live as sinners when you followed the ways of this world. You served the one who rules over the spiritual forces of evil. He is the spirit who is now at work in those who don’t obey God.
Eph 2:3 At one time we all lived among them. We tried to satisfy what our sinful nature wanted to do. We followed its longings and thoughts. God was angry with us and everyone else because of the kind of people we were.
Eph 2:4 But God loves us deeply. He is full of mercy.
Eph 2:5 So he gave us new life because of what Christ has done. He gave us life even when we were dead in sin. God’s grace has saved you.
Eph 2:6 God raised us up with Christ. He has seated us with him in his heavenly kingdom because we belong to Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:7 He has done it to show the riches of his grace for all time to come. His grace can’t be compared with anything else. He has shown it by being kind to us because of what Christ Jesus has done.
Eph 2:8 God’s grace has saved you because of your faith in Christ. Your salvation doesn’t come from anything you do. It is God’s gift.
Eph 2:9 It is not based on anything you have done. No one can brag about earning it.
Eph 2:10 God made us. He created us to belong to Christ Jesus. Now we can do good things. Long ago God prepared them for us to do.
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