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- March 19, 2020 at 9:19 am#850668ProclaimerParticipant
The final nail in the coffin
RIP Flat Earth
March 19, 2020 at 10:13 am#850669ProclaimerParticipantOne lie leads to another and another dig.
If a man throws a ball from inside a high speed train, he truthfully exclaims that the ball’s trajectory is up and down from a fixed point.
A scientist however could point out that the trajectory is in the shape of a wave and he too is correct. I guess you are just not smart enough to see that.
Thus, the sun does a circuit for is observers here on earth. Zoom out from there and the earth is going round the sun. Again, both are true. Saying that the earth going round the sun is a lie is like saying the ball making a wave like trajectory is a lie.
Too many simpletons leads to superstition, burning witches, and imprisoning people who advocate the heliocentric model.
Leave science to people who have critical thinking. That way you won’t have to give an answer to God for teaching lies. Only fools ignore good advice.
March 19, 2020 at 2:02 pm#850676Dig4truthParticipantAnd in all that you did not deny that you held to cartoons rather than the Word of God. How sad.
March 19, 2020 at 3:58 pm#850677ProclaimerParticipantAsk yourself who is the one denying the Eternal God revealed through his creation. When we look in a microscope we are in awe at the scale of things. Likewise when we look into a telescope. Your mind is seriously limited. You seem unable to grasp how awesome God is and what he has created. Pray that God will reveal himself to you.
March 19, 2020 at 4:00 pm#850678ProclaimerParticipantAnd there are no scriptures that teach us that the earth is flat and covered in a glass dome. Show me that scripture.
And what about that video I posted. Your unable to debunk it right. Way out of your depth right?
March 20, 2020 at 12:55 am#850680Dig4truthParticipantt8, why do you always forget about the firmament?
Here’s a few more things you have elected to forget about.
NASA, et al, documents using flat earth as a go-to for equations
Vacuum of space against the tinfoil of NASA
Using our own eyes and God-given senses to evaluate the distance of objects in front of the horizon with the horizon behind them (disproving by mathematical means the curve we’ve been lied to about)
Before you claim victory and go on about your lizard people please try to address my points.
March 20, 2020 at 10:34 pm#850698ProclaimerParticipantGive m a break dig. Seriously man. You reasoning and evidence is lame.
March 20, 2020 at 10:35 pm#850699ProclaimerParticipantA lesson on refraction which is real
March 21, 2020 at 3:47 am#850705Dig4truthParticipantThank’s for the confirmation that you can’t even give a reasonable response to my challenges. Others are understanding this as well.
March 21, 2020 at 9:11 am#850708ProclaimerParticipantDiggles, obviously I can’t waste my life defending against this lie, but these points have been answered and I really don’t have the time to hold your hand and show you them again. If you have any truth in your heart you would seek it yourself anyway. It really is you who should try and debunk the flat earth because you are the one under its spell and are the person who would give an account to God about this. Yet I have given you the evidence but perhaps the lack of love for the truth leads you to shun or ignore most of this evidence
t8, why do you always forget about the firmament?
Haven’t done this. Have provided answers. Seek for yourself. The Bible doesn’t say that the firmament is a glass dome over a flat disc. Clearly there is water above and blow us.
NASA, et al, documents using flat earth as a go-to for equations
This must be the latest argument from Flat Earthers as I haven’t seen it before. I could google it and probably debunk it in 15 minutes. Maybe you should try that?
Vacuum of space against the tinfoil of NASA
This argument has been debunked on numerous occasions.
Using our own eyes and God-given senses to evaluate the distance of objects in front of the horizon with the horizon behind them (disproving by mathematical means the curve we’ve been lied to about)
What is this? If an object is in front of the horizon, then yes the horizon is behind it. Lol.
March 21, 2020 at 9:20 am#850711ProclaimerParticipantThank’s for the confirmation that you can’t even give a reasonable response to my challenges. Others are understanding this as well.
Lol. Others? Mike and who?
And have debunked over 90% of the stuff you post whether I did it personally or pointed to someone else who bothered to do it.
You guys prove to me that not all should do science. It’s like X Factor which similarly proves that not all should attempt to be professional singers.
It is an interesting phenomenon that humans can see how silly others look, but cannot see themselves.
Hopefully, one day you will be embarrassed and ashamed by your actions here. Hopefully that will be before the judgement. so you have time to repent.
All lies no matter big or small come from the Father of Lies. We shouldn’t partner with him ever.
March 22, 2020 at 6:06 am#850728Dig4truthParticipantAnd yet you are still trying to dodge the questions. Anybody can see through that!
March 22, 2020 at 11:39 am#850734ProclaimerParticipantPlease give me one question at a time that I am supposedly dodging.
I will repost my answer and then you will not be able to level that accusation again.
So please pay attention when I post.
One at a time please.
Go.
March 23, 2020 at 1:36 pm#850770Dig4truthParticipantNASA, et al, documents using flat earth as a go-to for equations.
In case you need to refresh yourself with the facts here’s a helpful reminder: (I would refresh yourself so you don’t look ill informed)
March 23, 2020 at 2:13 pm#850771ProclaimerParticipantOkay, this is a relatively new question. So I will need to waste time debunking it for you because you are too lazy to do it yourself or you just want this true regardless.
As for the other questions, they have been answered. So I should just be able to provide a link to show you that your accusations against me ignoring your points is wrong.
Now to be fair, you have given me some work, so I would in turn like you to debunk each point this guy makes. Start with his first debunk and explain why he is wrong. We can go from there. I’m betting you won’t be able to do it, but let’s see.
March 23, 2020 at 2:32 pm#850772Dig4truthParticipantIt’s not a new question it’s one that you have been ignoring since I posted it. I only offered 3 points to debate on and you offer up a 45 minute video to debunk!? If you answer the first one then I’ll try to answer your first one. Sounds fair and reasonable doesn’t it?
March 23, 2020 at 5:19 pm#850773ProclaimerParticipantFirst off, if I miss out a question but answer a bulk of others, then you need to be reasonable and not resort to foolish and petty accusations.
But I like your idea regarding one question at a time.
I’ll answer your one first and follow with a question for you.
March 23, 2020 at 5:32 pm#850774ProclaimerParticipantDig question 1: Answered.
NASA, et al, documents using flat earth as a go-to for equations.
It seems that adding in the complication of equations to factor in the curve changes things by an insignificant amount, so it is just not worth it. If I was measuring the distance travelled by a ball bearing on flat slope, I wouldn’t bother with calculating the curvature of the earth either. It’s not that you need the flat earth to make the calculation correct, it’s just that it varies by an insignificant amount when factoring in the curve as straight lines and flat surfaces are way easier shapes to calculate.
Now read the following explanation I discovered from a simple Google search which took me a mere 5 minutes.
For the purposes of the equations governing the aerodynamic properties of aeroplanes, a whole lot of things can be ignored because they don’t make the slightest bit of difference. Such as the curvature of the earth, its rotation, the earth’s orbit around the sun, the sun’s orbit around the galactic center etc.
For much the same reason, if I want to calculate the path taken by a ball I drop in my lounge, I don’t need to worry about those things either…
A key skill in physics is in understanding what factors need to be taken into account and what can be ignored, at the level of precision you care about.
As far as aerodynamic models of planes go, the curvature of the earth only matter to the extent that the earth deviates from being flat over the size of the aircraft. Likewise the rotation: if the rotation speed of the earth varies significantly over the span of the aircraft it might matter. But since aeroplanes aren’t tens of kilometers in size, it really makes no difference, because we are not doing calculations precise enough for those things to matter.
March 23, 2020 at 5:43 pm#850775ProclaimerParticipantt8 Question 1 for Dig:
Hi Dig.
The video below has been forwarded to show the flat earth model used to explain the tropics and differences in temperature we experience. As you can see, The Tropic of Capricorn is bigger than the quite a bit bigger than the Tropic of Cancer.
Given that, the sun when travelling the Tropic of Capricorn must be a longer circuit than the prime meridian and a lot longer than the Tropic of Cancer.
The question is as follows:
Does the sun change speed throughout the year to compensate for the fact that each circuit by the sun is completed in the same amount of time?
If you answer yes, then what proof do you have that the sun changes speed.
If you answer no, then how do you explain the different circuit lengths being completed in the same amount of time?
Thank you.
March 24, 2020 at 12:33 am#850788BereanParticipantThe shape of the Earth is approximated by an ellipsoid, a sphere flattened at the poles. The Earth’s rotation causes a slight bulge to appear so that the diameter at the equator is 43 kilometres longer than the polar diameter (from the North Pole to the South Pole).
I gleaned this this morning
But I’m not going to spend a lot of time with this flat earth or globe story…I’m leaning towards a globe shaped earth anyway…it’s more reassuring.
The flat earth “would” have an edge that you shouldn’t go beyond because you’d fall into the void. . .
Come on, we’re on a spherical earth
but I wouldn’t be too eager to prove it.
Soon Jesus will explain it all to usGod is LOVE
I apologize for my poor English.
I’m French. . .
I use Google translate or
Deepl Translator. …not so good.God bless
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