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Hi, Here’s a question for you all.
They say Earth’s escape velocity is about 25,000 mph,
that makes sense if the earth is 24,000 miles in circumference.Picture spinning a yo-yo around, no matter where you are, plum is always to the center.
This would be the case of a plane going merely 550 mph. You would have to be going
way closer to 24,000 mph to notice you have to tilt down. So your argument on
this aspect is easily explained.I’m still waiting for *any* explanation on how you can have a longer sun-cycle
in “the south” (outward vs inward) while “The North” is having “Winter”
The flat earth model only offers a sun-cycle of less then half.Explain that.
Also note: A longer day-sun-cycle is necessary for most plants to grow
AND the longer night cycle forces plants to seed. (Seasons are needed)____________
God bless
Ed JHi Mike (and Dig),
Here are two observations that I have made.
First off.
Let me state that where I grew up it is as flat as a pancake.Between the forest preserve district and a busy road overpass, there is
a 20 foot tall mound of dirt. It is located 25 miles from the Sears Tower.The internet says:
1. The sears tower is 1,453′ tall.
2. Calculator says 223.1507 feet of Curvature.Knowing how tall it is by perception, I did notice
that I could only see 2/3 to 3/4, but closer to 2/3.
This personal observation matches the ball earth theory.But I also have another observation.
There is a rail road track the seems to go on forever.
Standing at a fixed point, I could see the light of the engine
grow from the ground up as it moved closer. But after seeing the yard
was about 2.5 miles away, and the train had to turn 90*. I could see the
light of the engine appear over the left rail and then move to the center.
Not come from the bottom up. I didn’t run the numbers on this one yet though.Anyways interesting discussion!
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Ed JDig,
Debunking ‘space missions’ does not prove the earth is flat.
What makes you think it does? They are two separate issues.____________
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Ed JWell if your answer is the sun in Australia travels quicker across the sky than the USA, then you have lost the whole debate.
The sun doesn’t travel faster in Australia than it does in the USA.
YOU LOSE.
The flat earth model has to be wrong if it needs a faster travelling sun in Australia compared to the USA. No way around this Dig.
Is there any point in continuing. This fail is huge.
Ed: They say Earth’s escape velocity is about 25,000 mph, that makes sense if the earth is 24,000 miles in circumference.
How does that make sense?
Ed: Picture spinning a yo-yo
Yeh, I’m getting that picture now. Thanks for joining the debate.
A plane that is traveling at 550 mph would necessarily drop 550×550=302,500 inches which equals 25,208 feet which is 4.77 miles in one hour! Sure the pilot could nod off but that’s a bit of a correction change. I would appreciate you and t8 admitting that.You asked about the sun but did you look at my answers? Apparently not.
Yeh, I’m getting that picture now. Thanks for joining the debate.
A plane that is traveling at 550 mph would necessarily drop 550×550=302,500 inches which equals 25,208 feet which is 4.77 miles in one hour! Sure the pilot could nod off but that’s a bit of a correction change. I would appreciate you and t8 admitting that.For a moving aircraft the attitude change is linear – at 450 Knots it is a smooth progressive 1 degree change spread across the first 8 minutes, then 1 degree spread across the next 8 minutes and 1 degree for every 8 minutes after that.
Dig, is this true or false?
If true, then stop worrying as you can see it is such a small change you would never detect it. Remember the Earth is very big.
If this is false, prove it.
I would appreciate you and Mike admitting that.
Just so you know where we stand, I’m on the Bible side and you guys are on the scientism side.
Psalm 19:1-6 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. 2 Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. 3 There is no speech, nor are there words; Their voice is not heard. 4 Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their utterances to the end of the world. In them He has placed a tent for the sun, 5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; It rejoices as a strong man to run his course. 6 Its rising is from one end of the heavens, And its circuit to the other end of them; And there is nothing hidden from its heat.
What is the tent of the sun? Where is it’s chamber? Does it run a course or does the earth run a course around the sun? Does the sun have a circuit?
I know what the heathen say but what do you say?
Ding dong
Your so silly. Of course the sun has a circuit from our perspective.
This debate is not about our perspective only.
As for the Bible, it is inspired by God and for the perspective of man. Why if it was penned by men would it be from the perspective of Mars, the moon, outer space, or for cherubs?
Think Dig think. Lol.
We have already explained to you how from your perspective throwing a ball up and down in a speeding train has a different trajectory from an observer outside the train. Both can be true because perspectives change. The Bible is not wrong about the sun having a circuit.
Oh gosh! My math was way off! I’ll admit it. The plane wouldn’t drop 4.77 miles in one hour, sorry!
It would drop over 38 miles!!!Could you explain why this would NOT be an issue When piloting a plane?
It’s indiscernible Diggy
For the tenth time, this is not an issue because this is how it works out.
For a moving aircraft the attitude change is linear – at 450 Knots it is a smooth progressive 1 degree change spread across the first 8 minutes, then 1 degree spread across the next 8 minutes and 1 degree for every 8 minutes after that.
If you disagree say so, if not, then be silent or keep going and be thought a fool.
This is for you Dig
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue.
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
Now about that really fast Australian sun from our perspective. I’ve lived in Australia and been to the USA. I never noticed the sun moved across the sky much quicker in Australia. What I can’t understand is no Flat Earther made a video showing this.
Lol.
t8, are you seriously suggesting that a dive of 38 miles in one hour isn’t noticeable? Do the math.
60/38=1.57 That’s over a mile and a half drop every minute.If you want to keep this charade up at least do the math.
By the way, you never commented on my answer to your question about the sun. Wonder why?
t8: “Dig, Do you agree to the fact that the sun doesn’t travel faster in Australia than the USA? Yes / No“
Look at my answer and address that. Then if you have any comments make them then.
I did look at the answer. It appeared you do believe that the sun travels faster. I just want to confirm this is the case though because it was not 100% clear.
Do you believe the sun travels faster in Australia when the sun is over the Tropic of Capricorn compared with the USA when the sun is over the Tropic of Cancer?
t8, are you seriously suggesting that a dive of 38 miles in one hour isn’t noticeable? Do the math.
60/38=1.57 That’s over a mile and a half drop every minute.Seriously Dig, you are not cut out for even the simplest of science truths.
Look again and tell me that this is hard to believe and if so, then show me why it is wrong. If it is correct, then anyone including clowns can see this is indiscernible. The amount of distance might seem big to your mind, but considering the distance travelled it averages out to around the following:
For a moving aircraft the attitude change is linear – at 450 Knots it is a smooth progressive 1 degree change spread across the first 8 minutes, then 1 degree spread across the next 8 minutes and 1 degree for every 8 minutes after that.
1 degree every 8 minutes even in one single maneuver would be hard to detect, but the aircraft is constantly adjusting, so each micro adjustment is undetectable. If the aircraft adjusts 1000 times per 8 minutes, then divide 1 degree by a 1000. Even if it adjusts once, you won’t notice.
If you are not smart enough to see when you have been beaten, then you will continue to foam up your shame like the waves in a heavy sea.
Yes or no question Dig.
Is this a true statement?
For a moving aircraft the attitude change is linear – at 450 Knots it is a smooth progressive 1 degree change spread across the first 8 minutes, then 1 degree spread across the next 8 minutes and 1 degree for every 8 minutes after that.
Where is your math for the 1% drop every eight minutes?
Here is mine:
550×550=302,500
302,500×8= 2,420,000 (8”x mile squared)2,420,000 inches /12 = 201,666 (inches to feet)
201,666 feet / 5280 = 38.19 miles (feet to miles)
So the plane drops 38.19 miles in 1 hour!
There are 7.5 “8 minute” segments in 1 hour.
So 38/7.5= 5.06
This means that the plane drops 5.06 miles every 8 minutes!Now all I need is what percentage of 38 miles is 5.06
A drop of 5 miles every 8 minutes seems like it would be very noticeable!38/5.06= 7.5
That is a 7.5 degree drop every 8 minutes.
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