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- March 26, 2020 at 12:26 am#850886BereanParticipant
What a waste of time fatiguing your neurons with such an unimportant subject.
There are much more important subjects to study in depth and to review from top to bottom, especially prophecy, justification by faith, the perpetuation of God’s law… etc.
Flat earth or globules is a distraction from the DEVIL.
DO NOT LOSE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY WITH THIS. …REALLY BETTER TO DO.
FRATERNALLY
BEREANMarch 26, 2020 at 10:41 am#850903Dig4truthParticipantMike, you are 100%. correct about the gyroscope. In fact I watched an expert in the field talk about it yesterday. I’ll put a link below.
To suggest that a pilot doesn’t need to even worry about a constant drop in altitude is ludicrous. But that is the defense being offered.March 26, 2020 at 10:43 am#850904Dig4truthParticipantt8, please stop your condescending attitude. We are here to discuss.
March 26, 2020 at 1:32 pm#850917ProclaimerParticipantDig, I am pointing out a fact, that Atheists just think you guys are the dumbest people on the planet. I really feel sorry for any Atheist that you guys converse with because all you are doing with these lies is placing a stumbling block before them and making it harder for them to enter the Kingdom of God. They at least deserve to hear from Christians who acknowledge truth and are not superstitious and paranoid individuals. Just remember that you will be held responsible for anyone you hinder from entering the Kingdom.
I was an Atheist for the first part of my life (except when I was a young child) and I was very critical of arguments presented that were used to prove God. I still am. Of course I know that there is a God now and I have experienced this reality besides intellectually being able to comprehend his existence. But if I met guys like you saying the Bible teaches a Flat Earth and all the evidence to the contrary is a conspiracy, well I may have decided at that point to think, thanks for letting me know how stupid you are and this whole God thing must be.
Fortunately, I met the right people and my soul was saved from death.
March 26, 2020 at 1:41 pm#850919ProclaimerParticipantFlat Earth and the changing speed of the sun
So I see you are not willing to talk about the sun changing speed. Let’s talk a bit more about this before you rest your case which if you do means you admit defeat.
Ask yourself if you really believe that in the USA, the sun travels at something like half or two-thirds the speed across the sky compared to AUS.
Wake up man. This is the most ridiculous thing ever. How come people never noticed this before because it would be noticeable with the naked eye. How come Flatties are not all over this because demonstrating that would be a game changer.
If you recorded the speed of the sun at say each comparable solstice (compared both winter solstice then compared both summer solstice) and found that the sun travelled considerably faster in AUS compared to USA, then yeah you would have something. So why does your community have zero proof of this when it would be so easy to prove?
March 26, 2020 at 2:45 pm#850925ProclaimerParticipantWhat a waste of time fatiguing your neurons with such an unimportant subject.
There are much more important subjects to study in depth and to review from top to bottom, especially prophecy, justification by faith, the perpetuation of God’s law… etc.
Flat earth or globules is a distraction from the DEVIL.
DO NOT LOSE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY WITH THIS. …REALLY BETTER TO DO.
FRATERNALLY
BEREANUnfortunately, because some teach that the Bible teaches a Flat Earth, then it needs to be put under the feet of Christ and be tested.
Yes, we know the earth is not flat and yes we know the Bible nowhere teaches that the earth is flat and has a glass dome atop. But this lie is like any lie, once debunked, , will help people searching the subject who come here, to see how weak the Flat Earth arguments really are and will be able to make an informed choice. Further, I have learned a lot about human nature and the power of pride. It has really hit home to me that if you do not love the truth, you will be deceived. It is that simple.
Light shines in darkness and the darkness cannot overcome it.
March 26, 2020 at 5:53 pm#850937BereanParticipantOkay, T8.
I believe Satan is very gifted
to hypnotize the whole world with anything.
We must be on our guard constantly and watch out for fear of being hypnotized ourselves. . .
Denying the Divinity of Christ and His pre-existence is another heresy.
that the devil has been spreading this and that all over the planet.And there are other issues that many people are not aware of…
like the signs of the times.
The beast rising from the abyss is one of them.
Most of the evangelical world, Christianity in general, is fooled by this. While the antichrist acts before their very eyes…
The antichrist would not be the Antichrist…
if he showed his true colours…
We are in the phase of collective hypnotization by the Anti-Christ, Satan being the master of the work…Yes but it is not enough to know that.
He acts by various means (very diverse mediums. He started by using a serpent… WHO and / or WHAT will he succeed in making speak so that the world
believes he’s God.
It’s a question you have to ask yourself…
now…
God enlightens and protects those who believe and obey. …the obedience of faith that acts out of love.“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.”
What is this beast that talks like a dragon?
What does it mean to speak in prophetic language?“And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.”
And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, ….
What is this first beast??
That first beast will have been
cured when the second one speaks
LIKE A DRAGON…
You know my T8 position.
My advice
Reconsider your position on these two beasts
It’s paramountSee you later.
God bless
March 28, 2020 at 8:01 pm#850991ProclaimerParticipantPeople have pet doctrines and once indoctrinated they are imprisoned in their minds.
For me, I am free. I remain teachable. I test all things. I am skeptical. I can be convinced.
I believe if you really love God, you will love the son who is the truth, and consequently you will love truth too.
If you love truth, you will not be so foolish to fully subscribe to a denomination or prophetic opinion.
Those who are led by the Spirit are unpredictable because the Spirit is not predictable . God reveals in his own time. Seek, but be patient for the answer because it is given in his time, not yours.
The dead bones of man-made religion is one of the most predicable things on the planet. Go to Church at that time. Stand up now, sing this now, sit down now, give money now, and fully believe this next message.
People say God is like a equilateral triangle and the earth is flat. Blah blah blah, the bones of a dead man.
March 29, 2020 at 12:19 am#850999BereanParticipantHi T8
Rejoice evermore.
[17] Pray without ceasing.
[18] In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
[19] Quench not the Spirit.
[20] Despise not prophesyings.
[21] Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
[22] Abstain from all appearance of evil.
[23] And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[24] Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.Revelation 12[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with THE REMNANT OF HER SEED, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
http://www.remnant-church.net/Who_is_the_Remnant_Church.pdf
God bless
March 29, 2020 at 12:29 am#851000ProclaimerParticipantI knew you subscribed to a denomination because you fully subscribed to an end time theory.
You are in a prison for you mind now just like these flat earthers.
But you can be set free only in Jesus Christ.
The church is the Body of Christ, not a denomination.
The head is Christ, not some pastor.
March 29, 2020 at 4:36 am#851001BereanParticipantT8
It is the truth that is in Christ that alone can set us free.
I don’t feel like I’m in a prison, on the contrary.
The truth sets me free. It’s sin that imprisons human beings, especially sin of unbelief.T8…Revelation 9 speak about the rise of Islam and his fall
March 30, 2020 at 7:30 pm#851113ProclaimerParticipantJesus is the truth.
Only in his name you can be saved.
Denominations are not the name of Jesus. They have their own names. They encourage you to give up your own faith in God and rely on them for all your food.
Men do much work in these names but to no avail.
A waste is it to build on another foundation.
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’…
Many put their trust in a denomination for truth and salvation. These are found only in Jesus Christ. Only he can bring you to God as one of the redeemed.
Jesus and the apostles never followed a denomination. Jesus followed his Father and Jesus disciples followed Jesus.
March 30, 2020 at 7:36 pm#851114ProclaimerParticipantRemember that this topic is about the Flat Earth.
March 30, 2020 at 9:47 pm#861895BereanParticipantAnd to follow Jesus is to live by his words that lead us to the Father of lights.
Revelation is as much a part of this as anything else
The prophetic books, by the way.March 31, 2020 at 12:27 am#861909Dig4truthParticipantYou see Berean, if you have a different opinion with “some” on this site then you are branded unintelligent, unteachable or worse yet unsaved.
Do you have an opinion why NASA and other agencies would use a flat non-rotating earth for scientific calculations?
For a refresher here is the video that shows the documents;
March 31, 2020 at 12:50 am#861910Dig4truthParticipantSo t8, care to try your answer again since many of the papers are not about flight but about many topics which all assume a flat non-rotating earth? Why would NASA, the CIA, and the Army all use these assumptions?
March 31, 2020 at 1:42 am#861912BereanParticipantThanks for the compliments
God bless
March 31, 2020 at 11:16 am#861920ProclaimerParticipantYou see Berean, if you have a different opinion with “some” on this site then you are branded unintelligent, unteachable or worse yet unsaved.
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So t8, care to try your answer again since many of the papers are not about flight but about many topics which all assume a flat non-rotating earth? Why would NASA, the CIA, and the Army all use these assumptions?Really, both these statements from you prove my point. On one hand you say you are unfairly branded as not intelligent and then you ask that question again, when the answer was already given to you multiple times in as clear language as possible. So again, I will answer:
“Because assuming a Flat Earth doesn’t change the calculations by enough to worry about it.”
It’s the same reason we round numbers up or down, because the fraction may not be important and rounding makes the calculations much easier. Obviously, calculating based on a flat plain is much easier than plain with a curve where a moving aircraft at 450 Knots it is a smooth progressive 1 degree change spread across the first 8 minutes, then 1 degree spread across the next 8 minutes and 1 degree for every 8 minutes after that.
Move on Dig. That is the answer. If you keep asking the same question and ignore the answer, then do not be surprised if people think you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. Also realise that lacking intelligence is not a sin and not something to be ridiculed, rather we rightly ridicule someone posing as intelligent when they are not. If I went on X-Factor and said to the judges I was going to win the competition, then once they hear my voice, they will laugh me out of town. I would be ridiculed not because I cannot sing, but because I was deluded in thinking I was a good singer when I am not.
Move on. You don’t have to like the answer, but move on.
March 31, 2020 at 11:22 am#861921ProclaimerParticipantSo Dig, you think the sun moves substantially faster across the sky in Australia at the winter solstice compared to the USA and again in the summer solstice as well as all comparable days in the year.
YOU HAVE LOST THIS DEBATE WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT YOU NEED TO BELIEVE IN.
The Flat Earth model falls with this one point alone.
Never mind all the other points your models fail at.
FLAT EARTH DEBUNKED AGAIN.
April 1, 2020 at 12:35 am#861965Dig4truthParticipantt8, your answer did not address the many other applications of using a flat non-rotating earth from these government agencies. All you did was repeat your answer and pretend that it did. It isn’t even an acceptable answer in the first place! Rocket scientists rounding off large numbers because it easier, now that’s a good laugh!
And again, stop with the personal insults. I know when your argument is weak you revert back to this form of diversion but it isn’t very becoming.
Oh and here’s an answer for your question; the amount of speed change in the sun is so insignificant that it can’t be noticed. It is simply as small as a rounding error. It doesn’t change the calculations by enough to worry about it. Now move on. I hope these are satisfying answers to your question. ; )
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