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To ALL………..The word fear in scripture is (NOT) the same as our understanding of Fear is. Those who push fear are themselves servants of fear, and are (Not) made perfect in LOVE as scripture says. Fear is only a tool for the self-righteous and gives them power over the Heritage of God. If a man or woman is (not) moved by the Love of GOD they simply are (Not) of God. Brothers and sisters “WE have (NOT) received a SPIRIT OF FEAR, but of POWER and of a SOUND MIND”, Please do not buy into (FEAR MONGERS) they ONLY SERVE THEMSELVES> ALL who use fear use it because they themselves are fearful and unbelieving they Trimble at the word of God as the demons and devils do. They are unbelievers and serve the god of this world. They know they have a CARNAL MIND and the only thing that can keep them from sinning is FEAR. God used fear to control the CARNAL MINDED ISRAELITES EX 20:20 For God has done this so that the (FEAR OF HIM) be before you eyes that you sin NOT. But you brethren have (NOT) come to that mountain to FEAR as THEY DID.
Brethren do (NOT) get sucked into these FAITHLESS People who can only control THEIR LUSTS by FEAR> YOU have (NOT) received that SPIRIT of FEAR, as they HAVE. BUT of FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. LOVE GOD AND REVERE, (NOT FEAR HIM) AND LOVE THE BROTHERHOOD. LET THE FEAR MONGERS FOLLOW THE ROAD OF FEAR, BUT YOU THE ROAD OF FAITH which works through LOVE, WHICH CASTS OUT FEAR. Remember it says (NOTHING) is PERFECTED IN FEAR< FOR FEAR (HAS) TORMENT. If you have a sin take it to the Throne of GOD, and confess it to the FATHER who is FAITHFUL to (BOTH) FORGIVE IT, and (CLEANSE US) FROM (ALL) UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Do not let FEAR MONGERS Destroy your FAITH BRETHREN.
Love and peace to you all…………………..gene
Hi,
Prov 1
1The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;2To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
3To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
4To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
6To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Hi,
Prov 1
25But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:26I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
28Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
32For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
33But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
Lack of fear of God brings real and tormenting worldly fears.
Simplicity is safety.2Cor11
1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Thank you Gene,
Well said ………
When Jesus said that God wants those who will worship him in Spirit and truth I think that relates to this well – the worship is knowing who God is and loving Him with your whole heart and your neighbour, the motivation is love/awe/reverence.
The fruits of the spirit if love, joy, peace – not fear
Nick…..has your FEAR COMETH, I think SO. Relying on the way GOD worked with the CARNAL MIND, and trying to transfer it to those who are (SPIRITUALLY MINDED) is in it self SIN. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A SPIRIT OF FEAR The fearful are instable and are (NOT) of a SOUND MIND> Can not put scripture together simple do not understand, Thats why a novice shouldn't teach. They lack balance . Preaching OLD TESTAMENT FEAR GIVEN TO CARNAL MINDS, is simply trying to bring them (UNDER) the (WORKS) of LAW> It has nothing to do with the works of the SPIRIT, but (WORKS) of LAW (Forced Compliances) totally void of SPIRIT. Pure CARNALITY.
WE ARE TOLD TO BE PERFECT as your FATHER in HEAVEN IS,< SCRIPTURE SAYS (NOTHING IS PERFECTED IN FEAR) but you going against scripture (PUSHING FEAR). Who gave YOU the right to do that, it certainly is not from GOD or JESUS, Who Operates through HIS LOVE and said LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR. Again Me or no one here is saying we should not REVERE GOD or Not obey HIM. BUT through the operation of His LOVE in US , NOT FEAR as YOU PUSH.
Nick i am sorry to have to say this but it may be time GOD brings on you what you pushing on others. And in your case you may well have a right to Fear. May GOD be merciful to you and forgive you…………………gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,04:37) Hi,
1Peter2
17Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
I agree, however I believe the “fear” that Peter is talking about is holy respect. The fear you preach goes something like this, “Don't go outside the scriptures or you will fall away from God!”But He has placed us in His Hands…..and no one can pluck us out. If indeed you trust scripture, trust that!
Trust God, Nick.
Mandy………Amen to that. The fear Nick preaches is a crippling FEAR, not a LOVE and RESPECTFUL ONE. (FEAR HAS TORMENT) and all the rest posted here many times which Nick fails to comment on. INTERESTING. He simple treats them as if they are not even written and yet always says “is it written” or “Scripture Please” and when give Just ignores them, because they don't agree with what his point of view is, so he treats them as if they aren't there. This is quite frustrating Here and prevents Spiritual growth. “O” well maybe God will Help the situation out here we need to pray about it, i guess that what we all need to do.
love and peace to you and yours………………gene
GB,
Service is demanding.
We share what is written and invariably find it is unpopular.Free choices I suppose.
Nick…….NO FREE CHOICES……….you serve what in you it controls you, nothing (FREE) about it. If the Spirit of GOD is in YOU (IT) will Guide you into all TRUTH, Not, reading the bible or quoting it a million time. Nearly (all) Christianity lies in a state of apostasy.
And use fear as their means of control of people, and it works on those who have NOT the Spirit of God in them. The gospel they preach is one of FEAR and DREAD, that gospel is the gospel of the unbelieving and fearful. We preach the gospel of LOVE and forgiveness and HOPE, of (REGENERATION) Through the LOVE of OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Who BOTH forgives us and CLEANSES US> FROM ALL SIN. May all the earth give HIM GLORY AND PRAISE NOW AND FOREVER> AMEN.The service is truly demanding specially if we think it's all up to us, But brother Jesus said Take my YOKE upon you because MY Burden is LIGHT, what was the YOKE, is it not our Yoking with GOD that is the same YOKE of Jesus , if brother we do, then our Burden will be light. Cast all our cares on him for he cares for us.
Nick it may sound at times i Dislike you brother , but i Honestly do Not dislike you in any way, while i do disagree with you at time , I do not despise you brother.
love to you and yours and have a good holiday season………………………..gene
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Ahhh….the Peacemakers!
I did duck
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,07:25) GB,
The Spirit of God reminds us of the words of Jesus.
Nick…………TRUElove to you and yours…………..gene
Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 22 2008,06:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,04:37) Hi,
1Peter2
17Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
I agree, however I believe the “fear” that Peter is talking about is holy respect. The fear you preach goes something like this, “Don't go outside the scriptures or you will fall away from God!”But He has placed us in His Hands…..and no one can pluck us out. If indeed you trust scripture, trust that!
Trust God, Nick.
Hi:I agree with you that “fear” in this scripture means reverence for God, and when you respect, Him you honour Him by obeying His Word.
If we are His children showing respect for Him, by obeying His Word, there is no need to fear the judgments that will come upon those who are not in right standing with Him.
God Bless
942767……..when i was young i loved my Father very much and i would do what he said to (most of the time) I really loved and respected Him , I never ever remember a time when a stood in Terror and fear and Trembling of Him. When He passed away it was one of the hardest things i ever went through in my life. I can't even begin to imagine a person Standing in FEAR and TREMBLING of our LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER. Its totally buzzard to me to think people would even think that way, and at the same time say they (truly LOVE HIM). That is an Oxymoron.
love to you and yours………………gene
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