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[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44)

Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie.
The judge will lock you up.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup.

wup

Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,
Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman.
Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

what parts are true and what parts are lies

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,19:35)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup.

Huh? …I don't know what you mean?

Note: I should have said 'a deception' not 'the deception'.

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,14:50)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. wup Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” what parts are true and what parts are lies

T,

Genesis 3:5 is a true statement.

The deception behind it is that the knowledge of good and evil at that point of human development is a righteous thing.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 10 2013,17:03)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,14:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. wup Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” what parts are true and what parts are lies T, Genesis 3:5 is a true statement. The deception behind it is that the knowledge of good and evil at that point of human development is a righteous thing.

k

Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

do you see the deceit

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,17:38)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 10 2013,17:03) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,14:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. wup Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” what parts are true and what parts are lies T, Genesis 3:5 is a true statement. The deception behind it is that the knowledge of good and evil at that point of human development is a righteous thing. k Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.” do you see the deceit

T,

I already wrote the deception behind the words of 2:7. I think you are trying to point out that Satan's words and 2:6 are a lie. I agree that 2:6 is a lie.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:50)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. wup Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” what parts are true and what parts are lies

Terra.

What Eve said to the serpent is true.
What the serpent said to Eve is a lie.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,19:37)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. wup Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” what parts are true and what parts are lies Terra. What Eve said to the serpent is true. What the serpent said to Eve is a lie. wakeup.

wup

“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

this is the question that Satan ask Eve, by asking this question ,Satan put a doubt or question the true wording of what God had said,but Eve says what she as heard ;

“We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,
Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

but then Satan comes back with ;Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman.

and that was a flat lie ,(but if it is taken in an direct way he his right they did not die that day meaning the next 24 hours ,)

then Satan add ;
Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

this was the obvious result of breaking that command

now what sentence as to be made and fulfilled ,

this is always the same for those who do not submit to God

Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,20:13)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,19:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. Huh? …I don't know what you mean? Note: I should have said 'a deception' not 'the deception'.

EDJ.

If one tells a truth to deceive,the main agenda is to deceive.

He is a deceiver.
Many preach God,and the cross,both is truth,but in the end is to led astray, they are guilty,causing many deaths.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Pierre,

That is an excellent scriptural example!  

In Gen 3:4, Satan lied, because they did surely die.  And if you consider that a day to God is like a thousand years to us, then they actually died “on that very day”, because no human has ever lived more than 1000 years.

On the other hand, what Satan said in verse 5 was the truth, for their eyes WERE opened, and they DID become like God, knowing good from evil:

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.”

Wakeup, I'm with Ed on this one.  Satan uses truth to deceive.  Just read the passage on the temptation of Jesus.  What part of the things Satan said to Jesus were lies?

Remember that Satan masquerades as an angel of light in order to deceive even the elect, if possible.

[Proclaimer]

I guess you could say that Satan's doctrine is false.
It consists of truth as bait and lies as the hook.

But overall, his doctrine is false and his behaviour is evil.

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2013,07:02)

Pierre, That is an excellent scriptural example!   In Gen 3:4, Satan lied, because they did surely die.  And if you consider that a day to God is like a thousand years to us, then they actually died “on that very day”, because no human has ever lived more than 1000 years. On the other hand, what Satan said in verse 5 was the truth, for their eyes WERE opened, and they DID become like God, knowing good from evil: Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.” Wakeup, I'm with Ed on this one.  Satan uses truth to deceive.  Just read the passage on the temptation of Jesus.  What part of the things Satan said to Jesus were lies? Remember that Satan masquerades as an angel of light in order to deceive even the elect, if possible.

MIKE

yes but also in the mind of Eve do you think that they understood it that the day would be 1000 years??? or did they have the believe of being one 24 hours day

[terraricca]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,07:22)

I guess you could say that Satan's doctrine is false. It consists of truth as bait and lies as the hook. But overall, his doctrine is false and his behaviour is evil.

yes I agree this is a typical behavior of Satan and his followers ,

well said

[2besee]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2012,05:17)

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 29 2012,17:46) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2012,05:37) So who sacrificed their FLESH?  God's Son, the Holy Spirit?   Mike, only one had flesh and that was the Man Jesus  – the begotten Son of God – the anointed – the Christ. Holy Spirit is Spirit, just as God is also Spirit. Spirit gives birth to Spirit. 'How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?' (Hebrews 9:14) According to Heb 9:14, who exactly offered himself without blemish to God?  Christ?  Or the eternal spirit?

Um, I would say Jesus offered Himself without blemish to God?

[2besee]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 01 2013,04:01)

Mike……..Here is the Scripture i was referring to. Act 20: 28…..> Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HOLY GHOST has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he (?) has purchased with his own blood. Was this referencing God or Jesus or both? It seems to imply GOD Right? I know most scriptures say Jesus' blood , but my question would be whose blood was it seeing Jesus gave himself to God Completely . So would his blood be considered God's Blood by way of the obedience of Jesus to God the Father? Also taking into consideration that in Scripture Jesus is reckoned as the Lamb of GOD. Who God offered up, for the sins of the world. Does God who being Sovereign over all Creation take responsibility for all sin of all creation and offer up His own Lamb for forgiveness of all? It does appear that way to me. Remember what Jesus did he did in OBEDIENCE to God the FATHER fulfilling GOD desire to forgive all sin. So while Jesus was God's Lamb it was God the Father who offered him up it appears. peace and love to you and your……………………………….gene

Gene, I would say it is referencing Jesus.
It seems that Jesus faced a battle within himself in the Garden of Gethsemane. He was sweating blood. Apparently, extreme anxiety can do this.

44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly; and his sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground. 45 And when he rose from prayer, he came to the disciples and found them sleeping for sorrow, 46 and he said to them, “Why are you sleeping? Rise and pray that you may not enter into temptation.”

What was the temptation?
Matt 26,
41 Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” 42 Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, “My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.”

[2besee]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34. It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.

I agree with Kerwin

[terraricca]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,14:29)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34. It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34. I agree with Kerwin

Lk 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
Lk 13:35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’’”

I rather agree with the scriptures than with any men

[2besee]

T, I rather believe what I know to be true in myself.
God bless.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,04:29)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,19:37) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. wup Ge 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Ge 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” what parts are true and what parts are lies Terra. What Eve said to the serpent is true. What the serpent said to Eve is a lie. wakeup. wup “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” this is the question that Satan ask Eve, by asking this question ,Satan put a doubt or question the true wording of what God had said,but Eve says what she as heard ; “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, Ge 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” but then Satan comes back with ;Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. and that was a flat lie ,(but if it is taken in an direct way he his right they did not die that day meaning the next 24 hours ,) then Satan add ; Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” this was the obvious result of breaking that command now what sentence as to be made and fulfilled , this is always the same for those who do not submit to God Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

Terra.

You notice how cunning the serpent is.

God said;of every tree YOU CAN EAT,but of the tree of knowledge of good and evil YOU CAN NOT EAT of it.

The serpent said; did God say you shall not eat of EVERY TREE in the garden. He twisted Gods words.

EVE SAID NO,only of that one tree.

The end result of that lie is death.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,07:59)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,20:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,19:35) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:44) Hi Wakeup, A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Acertain amount of truth is counted as a lie. The judge will lock you up. wakeup. Huh? …I don't know what you mean? Note: I should have said 'a deception' not 'the deception'. EDJ. If one tells a truth to deceive,the main agenda is to deceive. He is a deceiver. Many preach God,and the cross,both is truth,but in the end is to led astray, they are guilty,causing many deaths. wakeup.

Thanks! You got it now.  

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