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  • #147864
    bodhitharta
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    since all other stones will be set in reference to this Chief cornerstone who is Christ Jesus it does not lessen the importance of the other stones that are set at all it simply gives all the other stones perspective.

    #147866
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    The head of the body is greater than any other part

    #147884
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,16:09)
    Hi BD,
    The head of the body is greater than any other part


    Blood runs through the Whole body without preference.

    By the way, why is the head greater than any other part?

    #147885
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    You have to join the body to share the blood.
    You can do without limbs and many body parts can be substituted but the head is the control centre and irreplaceable.

    #147932
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,18:21)
    Hi BD,
    You have to join the body to share the blood.
    You can do without limbs and many body parts can be substituted but the head is the control centre and irreplaceable.


    So is the heart and the liver.

    #147936
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    No artificial hearts work well and livers can be transplanted or regrown.
    But any part of our body that was to move without our mind's direction would be abnormal.

    #147940
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 29 2009,15:21)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,14:26)
    Hi BD,
    Many false religions speak of Christ.
    But you do not offer him as a foundation stone.

    So you stumble


    Ephesians 2:19-21 (King James Version)

    19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

    21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

    You seem to always want to leave out those other than Christ Jesus. The Quran speaks like verse 20 but you forget all those who paved the way for Christ Jesus and instead make Christ a demigod.


    If you would know Ancient History, you would know that God's People are not what you say they are. Just like the Catholic Church teaches false, so is Islam. The Quran is not of God. Just like the trinity is not of God. Chriest is not a demigod, He is the Son of God. He was the firstborn over all creation.
    Rev,.3:14
    And how do you know that we don't belief in the corner stone? He is the riock that the Church was built on.
    When in Ephesiansd 2:19 We have fellowship with the Saints and are of the Household of God. You are jumping to wrong conclusions about what we are all about. Those others are we, that believe in the Bible being Gods Word and not the Quran.
    The Minister in the Baptist Church had a Quran and it spoke of so many wrong things, that is all I am saying about the Quran.
    Just like the Catholic on this site I will tell you too.
    Rev. 18:4 .. Come out of Her my People, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
    Peace and Lov Irene

    #147953
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,11:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 29 2009,15:21)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,14:26)
    Hi BD,
    Many false religions speak of Christ.
    But you do not offer him as a foundation stone.

    So you stumble


    Ephesians 2:19-21 (King James Version)

    19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

    21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

    You seem to always want to leave out those other than Christ Jesus. The Quran speaks like verse 20 but you forget all those who paved the way for Christ Jesus and instead make Christ a demigod.


    If you would know Ancient History, you would know that God's People are not what you say they are.  Just like the Catholic Church teaches false,  so is Islam.  The Quran is not of God.  Just like the trinity is not of God. Chriest is not a demigod, He is the Son of God.  He was the firstborn over all creation.
    Rev,.3:14
    And how do you know that we don't belief in the corner stone? He is the riock that the Church was built on.
    When in Ephesiansd 2:19 We have fellowship with the Saints and are of the Household of God.  You are jumping to wrong conclusions about what we are all about. Those others are we, that believe in the Bible being Gods Word and not the Quran.
    The Minister in the Baptist Church had a Quran and it spoke of so many wrong things, that is all I am saying about the Quran.  
    Just like the Catholic on this site I will tell you too.
    Rev. 18:4 .. Come out of Her my People, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
    Peace and Lov Irene


    Yes, you are correct, Christ is not a demi God so why treat him a such?

    Do you believe in God and if So who is the God you believe in?

    Do you worship Christ as God?

    I and all of Islam worships the God that Jesus Christ worships, do you still say that this is a false god?

    #147957
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    To reach God you must become a true worshiper able to worship in spirit and in truth.
    So cast aside your false gods and false teachings and doctrines.
    Repent and be reborn from above.

    The Spirit will help you worship God[Rom8]

    #147977
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,06:00)
    G,
    You say everyone who does not accept your additions to scripture lacks understanding.
    But you have told us these are just your ideas so why do you insist we believe them?


    Nick……..I do not recall ever saying that Please post it if you can. And I will apologize to all.  Nick i don't insist you or anyone else believe anything i say, if you can't see what i am saying by scriptures please do not accept it.  I am only saying How I see things and I do believe i have GOD'S Spirit in ME. But that does not means I know everything we all see some things better then other things, that why we are to “GROW IN GRACE AND KNOWLEDGE”. Which shown we don't have it all . IMO

    gene

    #147978
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    Why not listen to the Spirit.
    He will take you to the teachings of Jesus, not those of Gene B

    #147996
    eveh
    Participant

    Gene……..I sure wish we had a place to put our chuch denomanation of the side so people could more clearly understand where you are coming from. I do tend to agree with a lot of what you have to say but I disagree about spirits not being able to enter in to a person or leave a person for that matter.

    Mark 5:13

    And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea

    There were always jumpijng in and out of  people and pigs too for that matter, in my bible. I don't know where you get they are not real. I have a freind who thinks that Satan is not real or evil spirits but just the sin within us and other people. Explain please, where you get this.  :)

    #147998
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 30 2009,11:54)

    Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,11:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 29 2009,15:21)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,14:26)
    Hi BD,
    Many false religions speak of Christ.
    But you do not offer him as a foundation stone.

    So you stumble


    Ephesians 2:19-21 (King James Version)

    19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

    21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

    You seem to always want to leave out those other than Christ Jesus. The Quran speaks like verse 20 but you forget all those who paved the way for Christ Jesus and instead make Christ a demigod.


    If you would know Ancient History, you would know that God's People are not what you say they are.  Just like the Catholic Church teaches false,  so is Islam.  The Quran is not of God.  Just like the trinity is not of God. Chriest is not a demigod, He is the Son of God.  He was the firstborn over all creation.
    Rev,.3:14
    And how do you know that we don't belief in the corner stone? He is the riock that the Church was built on.
    When in Ephesiansd 2:19 We have fellowship with the Saints and are of the Household of God.  You are jumping to wrong conclusions about what we are all about. Those others are we, that believe in the Bible being Gods Word and not the Quran.
    The Minister in the Baptist Church had a Quran and it spoke of so many wrong things, that is all I am saying about the Quran.  
    Just like the Catholic on this site I will tell you too.
    Rev. 18:4 .. Come out of Her my People, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
    Peace and Lov Irene


    Yes, you are correct, Christ is not a demi God so why treat him a such?

    Do you believe in God and if So who is the God you believe in?

    Do you worship Christ as God?

    I and all of Islam worships the God that Jesus Christ worships, do you still say that this is a false god?


    My Husband and I worship the God of the Bible. No I do not worship Christ. He however is the Son of God and deserves all Honor and Glory. Just like a King does. He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. What I don't understand is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God of the Bible, yet you want to go by the Quran, why? Is the Bible not good enough for you?
    Peace and Love Irene

    #148041
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 30 2009,14:21)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,06:00)
    G,
    You say everyone who does not accept your additions to scripture lacks understanding.
    But you have told us these are just your ideas so why do you insist we believe them?


    Nick……..I do not recall ever saying that Please post it if you can. And I will apologize to all.  Nick i don't insist you or anyone else believe anything i say, if you can't see what i am saying by scriptures please do not accept it.  I am only saying How I see things and I do believe i have GOD'S Spirit in ME. But that does not means I know everything we all see  some things better then other things, that why we are to “GROW IN GRACE AND KNOWLEDGE”. Which shown we don't have it all . IMO

    gene


    Nick,

    You stand innocent of such charges because you always finish every post with “IMO” (IN My OPINION)

    #148044
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    You have only human opinion to rely on as you have cast aside the words of God and grasped those of men.

    #148048
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,17:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 30 2009,11:54)

    Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,11:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 29 2009,15:21)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,14:26)
    Hi BD,
    Many false religions speak of Christ.
    But you do not offer him as a foundation stone.

    So you stumble


    Ephesians 2:19-21 (King James Version)

    19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

    21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

    You seem to always want to leave out those other than Christ Jesus. The Quran speaks like verse 20 but you forget all those who paved the way for Christ Jesus and instead make Christ a demigod.


    If you would know Ancient History, you would know that God's People are not what you say they are.  Just like the Catholic Church teaches false,  so is Islam.  The Quran is not of God.  Just like the trinity is not of God. Chriest is not a demigod, He is the Son of God.  He was the firstborn over all creation.
    Rev,.3:14
    And how do you know that we don't belief in the corner stone? He is the riock that the Church was built on.
    When in Ephesiansd 2:19 We have fellowship with the Saints and are of the Household of God.  You are jumping to wrong conclusions about what we are all about. Those others are we, that believe in the Bible being Gods Word and not the Quran.
    The Minister in the Baptist Church had a Quran and it spoke of so many wrong things, that is all I am saying about the Quran.  
    Just like the Catholic on this site I will tell you too.
    Rev. 18:4 .. Come out of Her my People, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
    Peace and Lov Irene


    Yes, you are correct, Christ is not a demi God so why treat him a such?

    Do you believe in God and if So who is the God you believe in?

    Do you worship Christ as God?

    I and all of Islam worships the God that Jesus Christ worships, do you still say that this is a false god?


    My Husband and I worship the God of the Bible.  No I do not worship Christ.  He however is the Son of God and deserves all Honor and Glory.  Just like a King does.  He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.  What I don't understand is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God of the Bible, yet you want to go by the Quran, why?  Is the Bible not good enough for you?  
    Peace and Love Irene


    The Bible is perfectly good for me but the fact is it is not as clear as the Quran. You say that Jesus is the “son” of God but when the bible says that Adam is the son of God you say it's not the same or when it calls the angels the sons of God you say it's not the same, when it says ye are all the children of the Most High you say it's not the same. So, the fact is you seem to think God did something different with Jesus.

    So you think “son” in context with Jesus is somehow God's actual physical son like how we have sons on earth but God does not Procreate He creates so ALL are His creation including Jesus.

    If you don't believe that Jesus is a creation of God then you believe in the trinity.

    #148049
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,05:40)
    Hi BD,
    You have only human opinion to rely on as you have cast aside the words of God and grasped those of men.


    You say I cast aside, yet I quote them often. You are in error witnessing falsely against me.

    It would be better to just say “you believe differently”

    #148051
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Indeed he is the Monogenes Son known in the OT in Ps 2 and Prov 30.
    The claims of men to God's sonship were denied by Jesus in Jn 8.41
    If you would now be a son of God you must be born again from above.

    #148088
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,06:10)
    Hi BD,
    Indeed he is the Monogenes Son known in the OT in Ps 2 and Prov 30.
    The claims of men to God's sonship were denied by Jesus in Jn 8.41
    If you would now be a son of God you must be born again from above.


    There was no such rejection of the claim in JN 8:41

    Jesus was only saying that if you did not love him then God was not their Father but that can be said about them not loving John the baptist or any other person sent by God, right?

    #148090
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi bd,
    Just loving God has never been offered as a way of salvation has it?
    Love shows in obedient fruit

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