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To all …….Here is a summery of some of what I believe is true teachings and what i believe are false teachings in scriptures.
False TRUE
“Trinity” more then on GOD There is ONLY ONE TRUE
GOD“preexistence of Jesus” Jesus came into being his
berth by Mary.Doctrines of devils and demon Satans are human beings
no such things as invisible
“beings” going around
jumping in and out
people.Spirit as a being (except GOD ONLY). Spirit is (INTELLECT) of
the mind. can't be seenChrist always means Jesus Christ means Anointed
ONES and implies SPIRIT.Christmas Pagan origins (idolatry)
Easter Pagan origins (idolatry)
Sunday worship Pagan origins (idolatry)
G,
Thank you for expounding your own doctrines alongside the truth.
You really believe you are an oracle?
Back to scripture..Bro Gene,
You know I love you but you should have titled this thread, “False and true teachings according to Gene”.
So much of what you have shared is based on interpretation. There are so many interpretations. Thus, there is not just ONE “truth” out there. Well, at least one that can be defined and agreed on by every person who loves God.
Remember that for some it is a sin to eat the meat, for other's it is not. Where in your teaching do you leave room for this, I'm curious?
Love,
MandyMandy………I am not condemning no one notice I did say what (I) believe. No one has to buy what (I) think. Just my thoughts that is all. Nick thinks He is the only one that has the right opinions Here , But what he says is just His opinions also. Maybe He get ticked off because He believes some of those things I believe are false teachings. Don't know why He would thing I think I am a Oracle because i am not. But thin He never did have a problem of accusing the Brethern did He. If he doesn't want our (OPINIONS) then He need to shut down the site IN MY OPINION> Or finish giving us all tiles But himself and that will do it. IMO
peace and love to you and yours Mandy…………………gene
Nick……… Nick if you had any sense you could have figured the out long ago, I can scripturally back them up , while You son't seem to understand what (WORDS) really (ARE)> They are SPIRIT and ARE the Expression of (INTELLECT). If you can prove different them do so , instead of Just mouthing Off what you don't understand What GODS (WORDS) ARE. Your argument is with Jesus not me. IMO
gene
Quote (Gene @ Sep. 27 2009,13:24) Nick……… Nick if you had any sense you could have figured the out long ago, I can scripturally back them up , while You son't seem to understand what (WORDS) really (ARE)> They are SPIRIT and ARE the Expression of (INTELLECT). If you can prove different them do so , instead of Just mouthing Off what you don't understand What GODS (WORDS) ARE. Your argument is with Jesus not me. IMO gene
Gene You keep on saying this about John 1:1 and the Word. But how can you explain to me, that that Word became flesh, if it is only Interllect of God, as you say. The Word was God and was with God. If it were only the interllect of God why would Scripture even have to say this. It simple does not make sense to me. We know that in verse 14 the Word became flesh. Sio the interllect became flesh. God's interllect became flesh? Also God never became flesh. It was Jesus, that became flesh.
If you would understand that Jesus preexsisted, it would be so much easier to understand Johns writings.
Col. 1:15-17 will tell us that He did so
Also Rev. 3:14
And by Jesus own word He said this in
John 17:5″ And now O Father glorify Me together weith Yourself with the glory which I hdwuith You before the world was.”
It sys that God send His only begotten Son int the world. So where di the Father send Jesus from?
I do agree with you about Christmas an Easter being Pagan.
Peace and Love IreneIrene……..Consider for a second , can a (WORD)an expression of Intellect, really BECOME FLESH, IRENE a word can be (IN) someone but never be a FLESH but exist (IN) it. It is impossible for a WORD to (BE) FLESH, that is my POINT, I am not saying the WORDS of GOD were (NOT) IN Jesus they were indeed (IN) HIM. But remember Jesus said the WORDS were (NOT) HIS WORDS. Yes Jesus was the spokesmen GOD used to speak His words to US, I have never denied that. Here is the way I see it ” GOD WHO IN SUNDRY TIMES SPOKE TO US THROUGH THE PROPHETS HAS IN THESE LATTER DAY SPOKEN TO US (THROUGH) A SON. SO the question is who was SPEAKING (THROUGH) Jesus. It was GOD SPEAKING through HIM. Jesus said He who hears me does not hear me (why would he say that Irene). is it not because GOD who was (IN) Jesus was speaking to us through HIM. In conclusion Jesus HIMSELF is (NOT) the WORD, GOD is the WORD that indwelt HIM. All CREDIT of GOD'S WORDS GOES to GOD the FATHER. If He were to speak through you could you claim it was YOU, NO neither did Jesus claim the WORD WERE HIS nor the Prophets. IMO
peace and love to you and Georg……………….gene
Quote (Gene @ Sep. 27 2009,13:24) Nick……… Nick if you had any sense you could have figured the out long ago, I can scripturally back them up , while You son't seem to understand what (WORDS) really (ARE)> They are SPIRIT and ARE the Expression of (INTELLECT). If you can prove different them do so , instead of Just mouthing Off what you don't understand What GODS (WORDS) ARE. Your argument is with Jesus not me. IMO gene
G,
You tell us these ideas are just yours and then castigate us for not believing them?IF THEY ARE JUST YOUR THOUGHTS EXPRESSED THEN LET US JUDGE WHICH FOOD IS BEST.
We have a teacher thanks.
G,
Scripture is truth.
Your ideas are likely to be false teachings.wake up
Take your icons away and worship the God of Israel.
Nick………. What Icons?, I worship the GOD who has answered many of my Prayers, and worked many miracles in my life revealing himself to me over and over again, who has had mercy on me many times. What makes you so sure that they are (MY) ideas, You seem not so unsure (by saying LIKELY), maybe its your lack of understanding that is the problem here not the things i have said.
Be careful the hight tower you have built for you self may come crashing down. IMO
gene
G,
Obsessional ideas are no more true than any other carnal ones.
Best to stay within what is revealed or folks start to think it is gnostic.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 27 2009,17:01) G,
Scripture is truth.
Your ideas are likely to be false teachings.wake up
Take your icons away and worship the God of Israel.
Nick,I love you but you have a nasty habit of attacking those who love God with all their hearts, souls and minds as Gene (as far as I can possibly know) DOES.
Obviously some of the things that he said are true teachings you believe and others you don't but then again think about it when he talks about demons not jumping in and out of people he does accept that these “intellects” or frames of mind do indded jump in and out of people so really the belief is different and not deficient of meaning the same thing technically.
Nick………God has nothing to do with it it's your lack of understand that the problem Brother. You need to think a little more about what is being said , before jumping to a conclusion. IMO
gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,15:54) Hi BD,
Does love for God manifest in offering other teachings than God's own sacred ones?
The fact is you don't know what God taught everyone you only can know what God taught you.Hi BD,
We have the words of Jesus by which to find out the false teachers.
You serve another master and god do you not?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,06:26) G,
Obsessional ideas are no more true than any other carnal ones.
Best to stay within what is revealed or folks start to think it is gnostic.
Nick……….People Here don't even Know what the Gnostic's taught , or they would not be bringing it up so much, Go and read there teachings and compare who is really teaching there Philosophies such as Jesus being a GOD, and HIS PREEXISTENCE. The TRINITY is the direct result of the Gnostic teaching with a little changes here and there, they also believe Jesus was a GOD, but they basically are the same , and that also applies to your beliefs of Jesus' Persistences they to believe Jesus preexisted. WE are told to come (OUT) not part way but all the Way OUT NICK. And that includes the teachings of doctrines of devils and demons , All these things are false teachings. And if you don;t come out you will and do recieve of Her Plagues. IMOgene
Nick………Where did you get that from, what i offer i back up with scripture, it not my fault you are unable to understand it. That is between you and the LORD. What I have been allowed to see and understand i Post, now if you have a difference View thats fine , but to assume your view is right and Mine is not , that is Just an assumption on your Part. specially when you offer (NO) Scriptural proof of deference. To what I am Posting. YOU need to put scripture where you mouth is not Just some past false teachings. Look I am not your enemy or anyone else's Here. I just Post what i think about a subject that is all i do. NO ONE HAS TO AGREE WITH ME AT ALL , IT WILL NOT HURT MY FEELINGS IS ANYONE DISAGREES WITH ME including you Nick. But before you start using the word Gnostic , please have the sense to read their beliefs first. IMO
gene
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