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The three types of sons
Old Testament
Sons of God (angels)Gen: 6:2 “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose”.
v. 4 “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown”.
Job 1:6 “ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them”.
Job 2:1 “ Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD”.
Job 38:7 “ When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
Sons of man/men (humans)
Ps. 145:12 “ To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom”.
Pr. 8:4 “ Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man”.
v. 31 “ Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men”.
Ec. 1:13 “ And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven; this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith”.
Ec. 2:3 “ I sought in mine heart to give myself unto wine, yet acquainting mine heart with wisdom; and to lay hold of folly, till I might see what was that good for the sons of men, which they should do under the heaven all the days of their life”.
v. 8 “ I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces; I gat me men singers and woman singers, and the delights of the sons of men, as musical instruments, and that of all sorts”.
Ec. 3:10 “ I have seen the travail, which God has given to the sons of men to be exercised in it “.
v. 18 “ I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts”.
v. 19 “ For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts…”
Ec. 8:11 “ Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil”.
Ec. 9:3 “ This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all; yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead”.
v. 12 “ For man also knoweth not his time; as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them”.
Dan. 5:21 “ And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses; “
Dan. 10:16 “ And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips; then I opened my mouth, and spake…”
Joel 1:12 “ The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered; because joy is withered away from the sons of men”.
Mic. 5:7 “ And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the LORD, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men”.
New testament
Sons of God/men (saints)John 1:12 “ But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name”.
Rom. 8:14 “ For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God”.
v. 19 “ For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God”.
Eph. 3:5 “ Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit”.
Phil. 2:15 “ That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world”.
1 John 3:1 “ Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God; therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not”.
v. 2 “ Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be; but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is”.
Hi colter,
The body of Christ is undivded but the whore has many daughters.The claims about preadamic men.
The adoption of other myths.Jesus, the truth, was familiar with all these writings but made no such claims.
Hi,
Jesus quoted from Genesis thus proving it's veracity
Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.Mt19
5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?So did Paul
Eph 5
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.Hi colter,
So you refer only to the opinions of natural men?
Such views can be interesting but cannot deny, or even compare with revealed truth.Greetings Nick….I think an argument in favor of a preadamic earth could be made and in making that argument the occupation of the angelic realm on this earth could be born out by the events that brought about Lucifer and his minions….what do you think
Hi TJ,
No doubt the earth preexisted man in Genesis.
It was formed in the epoch called “the beginning”
Gen1
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Satan had occupied earth by then it would seem as well since the serpent\vessel met Adam.
Yes, I agree that the earth preexisted before God recreated it in Genesis. Do you believe that the Angels shouted for joy over a void and dark earth? I don't think so. When God created the earth it was beautiful, but when Satan was cast out of heaven he made a mess out of things here on earth. To make it livable for us, God had to recreate the earth. That's what I believe, it is in a Book that Mr. Armstrong wrote some time ago, I think, and it makes sense to me.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2008,08:53) Hi Mrs,
You do seem to add a lot of conjecture in this post.
Nick Sometimes one has to use common sense in order to get
to the truth. It does not make sense that God would create a world that is void and dark, does it? The Angels would they shout for joy over a dark and void planet? Satan was thrown down to this earth, right? So put two and two together and what do you have? Just a little conjecture that's all. You do not have to believe it if you don't want to, nothing lost.Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi Mrs,
When was Satan thrown to earth?
Jesus saw it but was he seeing a vision of the future?
It is shown in the book of prophecy, Revelation.
Either way it did not happen surely before Jesus came.Greetings Nick…..I would think that Satans casting to earth with his minions ( 1/3 of the angelic host )is vividly described in the book of Isaieh which was written almost 700 years before Jesus'ministry and subsequent birth…
Hi TJ,
Is 14
1For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.2And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
3And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,
4That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
7The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
8Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
11Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
In context is it not describing the future Israel under the blessing hand of King Jesus?
Nick…Now you have me thinking…If Satan was not cast to earth pre /recreation what caused the earth to be Toho/Boho…void and without form and dark….I would think there was an angelic war that rendered the universe barron…
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2008,11:57) Hi TJ,
He took squatters rights over earth?
He is called the god of this world
That is because human nature is at enmity with God….His position as God of this world was realized when Adam and Eve partook of the knowledge of good and evil through disobedience…..Hi TJ,
I agree that was when the kingdom of darkness was established among men.
But he was here already it seems and obedience to him was the issue, not the eating of fruit.
Adam and Eve gained knowledge from eating from the tree but could not cope with it believing nakedness was sin.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2008,17:54) Hi TJ,
I agree that was when the kingdom of darkness was established among men.
But he was here already it seems and obedience to him was the issue, not the eating of fruit.
Adam and Eve gained knowledge from eating from the tree but could not cope with it believing nakedness was sin.
Interesting view about Adam and Eve, don't think I am quite following what you are saying.I see it as- when Adam and Eve took of the fruit desiring for it to make them wise, they soon learned they were foolish because the fruit did nothing but taste like fruit. When they soon discovered that it did not make them wise, they felt naked, meaning embarrassed, ashamed and guilty. This is why they hid and covered themselves with leaves.
Very interesting that the the leaves weren't good enough to cover their sin and shame, so Yah sacrificed an animal and used the skin to cover them.
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