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there are verses in the bible calling Jesus as God. but i can't find any verse wherein Jesus himself said “I am God”.
what are the explanations in those verses calling Jesus as God, or verses that are parallel with God Father and Jesus like this:
2 Sam. 22:3 – God is the horn of salvation – Luke 1:68-69 – Jesus is the horn of salvation.
tnx.
Hi jh,
Christ had divine origins and was with God in the beginning.
He is a servant of God and the channel for the saving works of God.Acts3
26″For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.Some versions of the bible say he is not god.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with Hod, and the word was a God.
SevenaQuote (Sevena @ Feb. 15 2008,01:56) Some versions of the bible say he is not god.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with Hod, and the word was a God.
Sevena
Sevena It does not say a God it says that He was God. If you take God has a Family name you will find it easy to understand. Jesus is the SON OF God. Second in line. He is our Savior Jesus Christ. He is King of King and Lord of Lord. He deserves all honor and glory, but not worship. That we should only do to God the Heavenly Father. He deserves all worship and Honor and Glory. Jesus is King of Kings in the Millenium. After that He will give the Kingdom back to God so God can be all in all.Peace and Love Mrs.
HERE's the verses used by those who believe that is God.
Old and New Testament Parallels of God the Father and God the Son
Exodus 3:14 – God says “I AM who I AM” – John 8:58 – Jesus says “Before Abraham was, I AM” in reference to Himself.
Deut. 4:2; 12:32 – the Lord God commands that we not add or take away from His word – Rev. 22:18-19 – Jesus so commands us not to add or take away from His word.
Deut. 32:39; 1 Sam. 2:6 – the Lord kills and makes alive again and raises up – John 5:21 – the Son raises and gives life.
Deut. 32:39 – neither is there any that can deliver out of God's hand – John 10:28 – nor shall any pluck out of Jesus' hand.
Deut. 32:43 – rejoice, ye heavens, with Him, and let all the angels of God worship Him – Heb. 1:6 – the “Him” is Jesus the Son.
2 Sam. 22:3 – God is the horn of salvation – Luke 1:68-69 – Jesus is the horn of salvation.
Psalm 19:7 – the law of the Lord is perfect – Gal. 6:2 – fulfill the law of Christ.
Psalm 24:10 – the Lord is the King of glory – 1 Cor. 2:8 – Jesus is the Lord of glory.
Psalm 45:7 – Therefore God, your God, has anointed you. God calls someone else God. This someone else is His eternally begotten Son – Heb. 1:9 – Therefore God, your God, has anointed you. cf. Heb. 1:8, 10.
Psalm 62:12 – the Lord God renders to each according to his work – Matt. 16:27; Rev. 22:12 – Jesus so renders to each according to his work.
Psalm 71:5 – the Lord God is our hope – 1 Tim. 1:1 – the Lord Jesus Christ who is our hope.
Psalm 89:27 – I will make him the first-born, the highest (“elyon” which refers to God) of the kings of the earth – John 18:36-27 – Jesus is this first-born king.
Psalm 97:9 – the Lord God is above all – John 3:31 – Jesus is above all.
Psalms 110:1 – the Lord (Yahweh) said to my Lord – Jesus = Yhwh – Acts 2:34-36 – God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ.
Psalm 148:1-2 – the angels worship the Lord God – Heb. 1:6 – the angels worship Jesus. Only God is worshiped.
Prov. 3:12 – who the Lord loves He corrects – Rev. 3:19 – who Jesus loves He corrects.
Isaiah 7:14 – a virgin will bear a Son named Emmanuel which means “God is with us” – Matt. 1:23 – this Son is Jesus Christ, God in the flesh.
Isaiah 9:6 – the child to be born shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 25:8 – God swallows up death in victory – 2 Tim. 1:10 – Jesus abolishes death and brings life and immortality.
Isaiah 40:8 – the Word of God shall stand forever – Matt. 24:35 – the Words of Jesus shall not pass away.
Isaiah 42:8 – God gives His glory to no other – John 17:5; Heb. 1:3 – yet Jesus has the same glory as the Father.
Isaiah 43:14 – the Lord God is redeemer – Titus 2:14 – Jesus is the redeemer.
Isaiah 44:6 – the Lord God is the first and the last – Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13 – Jesus is the first and the last.
Isaiah 45:19 – I, the Lord God, did not speak in secret – John 18:20 – Jesus said “I have said nothing secretly.”
Isaiah 45:23 – to God, every knee shall bow and every tongue swear. Phil. 2:10-11 – at Jesus' name every knee should bow and tongue confess.
Isaiah 48:17 – God is the Holy One – Acts 3:14 – Jesus is the Holy One.
Isaiah 60:19 – God is everlasting light – Revelation 21:23 – Jesus the Lamb is eternal light.
Jer. 17:10 – the Lord searches the hearts and repays us according to our deeds – Rev. 2:23 – Jesus searches the hearts and repays us according to our deeds.
Ezek. 1:26-28; Daniel 7:9 – God's glorious appearance – Rev. 1:13-16 – Jesus' glorious appearance.
Ezek. 34:11-31 – God the Father is the shepherd of the flock – John 10:7-29 – Jesus is the shepherd of the flock.
Ezek. 34:16 – God seeks to save that which was lost – Luke 19:10 – Jesus seeks to save that which was lost.
Ezek. 34:17 – God judges between cattle, rams and goats – Matt. 25:32 – Jesus judges and separates the goats from the sheep.
Ezek. 43:2 – God's voice was like a noise of many waters – Rev. 1:15 – Jesus' voice was like the sound of many waters.
Dan. 2:47 – the Lord is the God of gods and the Lord of Lords – Rev. 17:14 – Jesus the Lamb is the Lord of Lords.
jhen Tux! You gave alot of scriptures here, so I am going to take 3 to show how you are taking scriptures out of contact.
First of all the Father as never spoken to any Human.
John 5:37 ” And the Father himself, which hath send me, hath borne witness me. Ye have neither HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANYTIME, NOR HAVE SEEN HIS SHAPE.”
Second, I am is not a name, it is so much to tell us, He has always been. just as the Son acknodwledged
the fact, that He was before Abraham.The Fathers name is Johovah.
Ps. 83:18 ” That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Johovahm or the most High over all the earth.”
Most Bibles have the name Johovah replaced with “the LORD. notice the capital letters in LORD.
Third God does not always refer to the Father. God was used in ancient times, as we use boss today.
Ps. 82:1 ” God standeth in the congregation of the mighty, He judges among the Gods.”
That is what God means, a mighty one, a strong and powerful one, if you are not refering to the Father.
Peace and Love Mrs.
jhenTux;
The Father himself called the Son God in Hebrews according to Paul, who quotes Psalms. However, Jesus depicts his relationship with the Father in living color with expressions far beyond just titles. Christ refers to the Father as his God.
He was accused of making himself God when he referred to himself as the Son of God. Everyone in the New Testament refers to Jesus most appropriately as the Son of God, not God.
However, Jesus made unique claims that no other human could make to show that he pre-existed with the Father as the Son of God prior to being sent. He said he was returning to the Father from whence he came from above. No one else in the Bible ever makes such a claim.
John summarizes why he wrote the gospel of John and says it was to show that Jesus is the Son of God and that by believing in him ye would have life through his name. It is in the name of Jesus that demons flee, the lame walk, the dead are raised, etc. Paul says in everything you do, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus.
It must be remembered that Christ, in His incarnation, came in the capacity as a man to redeem men and women. This didn't make Him merely a man…He was still properly both divine and human, but He operated chiefly as a man and if He hadn't then we could never have been handed over a righteousness to justify us and a substitutionary death to pardon as well that would have been suitable for mankind. Since the law was given to man, so a man had to both obey and suffer and this is why the gospel story speaks more of His humanity than it does of His divinity and makes the tragic mistake easier in assuming that He was human and nothing more. He was divine, and if He hadn't been then His death would only have had finite redemptive value for us and would have likewise locked Him and us up forever in the realm of the dead as He wouldn't have had a second nature to rise by having lost His sole nature upon the cross, but this didn't happen and all because of Christ's dual natures.
What a glorious and all-wise Redeemer…Both human and divine!Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,09:33) Hi S!,
So he was not a man like us
but perhaps a superman.
Can we follow him?
Come on Superman be nice?
Hi Sirius1
Let me show you were you are wrong in your believe, that Jesus was both, spirit and human.
Heb. 2:16 “For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him
the seed of Abraham.”Jesus was never divine or immortal, when he was with us. A divine nature, and immortality,
was his reward for becoming our sacrifice, he received both after he ascended up to heaven.John 5:26 “For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the son
to have life in himself.”Notice, the Father gave the son immortality, a divine nature, after he had completed his mission
hear on earth. Had he been immortal before, he could not have died for us. That's what immortality
means, death is impossible.I AM, former IM4Truth
seek and you will find,
I agree with Jesus not being divine while on earth but as I understand scripture He was both spirit and human just as we have a spirit (And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.), This did not prevent Him from being 100% human while on earth.Wm
seekingtruth being a spirit-being and having God's holy Spirit are two total different things.
IM4Truth not Mrs.
P.S. Like to explain that my Husband and I use the same site and computer. So please watch for the signature.
Quote (jhenTux @ Feb. 14 2008,16:42) there are verses in the bible calling Jesus as God. but i can't find any verse wherein Jesus himself said “I am God”. what are the explanations in those verses calling Jesus as God, or verses that are parallel with God Father and Jesus like this:
2 Sam. 22:3 – God is the horn of salvation – Luke 1:68-69 – Jesus is the horn of salvation.
tnx.
Hi:The following verse indicates who God has revealed to us that Jesus is. This verse is quite clear, and I don't know why people won't accept what God has said to us.
Quote Matthew 16:13
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am ?
16:14
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist *: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
16:15
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am ?
16:16
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
16:17
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.And so, who is Jesus? “The Christ, the Son of the living God”. Does that say that he is God or did Jesus ever say that he is God?
Quote Ephesians 4:4
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
4:5
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
4:6
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
4:7Ephesians 4:6 states that there is “one God”.
I renamed the heading for this discussion so as to not be confused with other discussions with a similar title. This discussion is about the verses that call Jesus as theos.
M4Truth,
I apologize I responded to the title. I do believe that we are spirit, soul, and body. the following verses I believe are clear that we do have a spirit.My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but you will cry out from anguish of heart and wail in brokenness of spirit.
“This is why I weep and my eyes overflow with tears. No one is near to comfort me, no one to restore my spirit. My children are destitute because the enemy has prevailed.”
Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, “Why are you thinking these things?
While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness.
The best one I found was.
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
Otherwise who is the “our spirit” in this verse.
Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 17 2008,10:49) M4Truth,
I apologize I responded to the title. I do believe that we are spirit, soul, and body. the following verses I believe are clear that we do have a spirit.My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but you will cry out from anguish of heart and wail in brokenness of spirit.
“This is why I weep and my eyes overflow with tears. No one is near to comfort me, no one to restore my spirit. My children are destitute because the enemy has prevailed.”
Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, “Why are you thinking these things?
While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness.
The best one I found was.
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
Otherwise who is the “our spirit” in this verse.
Wm
seekingtruth sorry that you misunderstood me. When it says IM4Truth that is my Husband. When you see Peace and Love Mrs. that is me.I agree with you on the Spirit because we received it at Baptism when the Minister laid Hands on us. Now we can be one with God. Our Spirit with Gods Spirit.
Peace and Love Mrs.
ROMANS 16:27
“to God, wise alone, be the glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen.”–NW
“To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.”–KJDoes saying that Jehovah is wise alone mean that no one else is wise? No, it means that comparitively speaking, no one else is wise.
Similarly, with this:
(Mark 10:18) “Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.”
Of course, many people are rightly called “good.” But that was not the point being made.Similarly, when we read:
(John 17:3) “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”We see 2 distinct ones here: Jesus and the one that sent Jesus, the only true God.
Yet Jesus is also called God. Does this mean he is the only true God, or does it mean that compared to all else, Jehovah is God Almighty, the only “true” “might one.”
God basically means powerful one or mighty one. Hence, the angels, satan, human judges, all called gods. They were all mighty ones.An angel is a mighty one to us, but not to Jehovah. Jehovah is a mighty one (God) to them, to everyone.
Jesus is certainly a mighty one (God) to us, but not compared to Jehovah who alone is called “Almighty” in scripture.So, the explanation for verses calling Jesus “God” is basically:
God means “mighty one.”
Jesus certainly is a mighty one.
But Jehovah alone is God compared to everyone else, hence, the only true mighty one.Quote (david @ Feb. 18 2008,05:06) ROMANS 16:27
“to God, wise alone, be the glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen.”–NW
“To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.”–KJDoes saying that Jehovah is wise alone mean that no one else is wise? No, it means that comparitively speaking, no one else is wise.
Similarly, with this:
(Mark 10:18) “Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.”
Of course, many people are rightly called “good.” But that was not the point being made.Similarly, when we read:
(John 17:3) “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”We see 2 distinct ones here: Jesus and the one that sent Jesus, the only true God.
Yet Jesus is also called God. Does this mean he is the only true God, or does it mean that compared to all else, Jehovah is God Almighty, the only “true” “might one.”
God basically means powerful one or mighty one. Hence, the angels, satan, human judges, all called gods. They were all mighty ones.An angel is a mighty one to us, but not to Jehovah. Jehovah is a mighty one (God) to them, to everyone.
Jesus is certainly a mighty one (God) to us, but not compared to Jehovah who alone is called “Almighty” in scripture.So, the explanation for verses calling Jesus “God” is basically:
God means “mighty one.”
Jesus certainly is a mighty one.
But Jehovah alone is God compared to everyone else, hence, the only true mighty one.
I agree have said it before , but will anybody ever believe this? I am not to sure about that. I have to say here it took me awhile too. I did not want to belief it. But God's Holy Spirit kept putting it in front of me, until I received it. Another truth. I am happy about knowing that truth.Peace and Love Mrs.
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