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- February 11, 2015 at 2:54 pm#789022MiiaParticipant
Quote from the lady in the video:
“I was baptized by the Jehovah witnesses in 1970. I believed in God but I didn’t believe that Jesus Christ was God. I believed Jesus Christ was a god created by the true God. I didn’t believe in life after death much less that there was a conscious spirit that would leave the body when one died. I didn’t believe in any kind of miracle healing nor I believed that God would communicate with people through visions or dreams. I believed that all kind of healing, miracles and visions were the work of the devil. I was very loyal to these Jehovah Witness teachings, and nobody could convince me of the contrary.
On September 12, 1973 I was ready to have a C-section done. While I was on the operation table I could see how the doctors and nurses were getting ready to do their job and they were kind of painting my abdomen with an orange liquid. I was concerned about it and asked what were they doing. The doctor explained to me that they were doing this before the anesthesia since they had to apply the anesthesia and start cutting right away to avoid the baby to be sedated.
They started injecting me the anesthesia and I felt a strange sensation. My body got stiffed, but my mind stayed awake. I realized they were going to cut my abdomen and I was not asleep. I tried to move and scream in desperation but all efforts were in vain. I started feeling a terrible pain while they were cutting my abdomen. All of a sudden in the middle of my pain I heard an audible voice saying; “Look what is going to happen to you!”
In that instant I was pulled out of my body with a sudden swoosh. I was moving very fast in a circular motion heading toward the ceiling of the room. I stayed hovering there looking down to what they were doing. I could see how my baby was being taken out of my womb. I felt very sad and I said: “Nothing can be done, everything is over for me on the earth. I was so anxious to see that baby and I couldn’t even hold it in my arms”. I remembered my other children with sadness and said, “This is the end; now my children will forget all about me”.I then started going up. I was aware I didn’t have a solid body. I was some kind of energy force moving at a high speed like in a circular motion. I was completely conscious. I knew I was me and I had all my memories with me. I knew I had left the earth. I found myself in a pitch black place. I started asking questions to myself. “Is this the universe? Where am I? Where am I going to? Am I going to stay here forever?” All of a sudden I started feeling something very strange. The only word I can use for this is agony or torment. At the same time I was feeling a need for my body. I wanted to get out of there and I wanted my body back. I couldn’t bear the torment. I remembered the voice I heard at the hospital right before coming out of my body (“look what is going to happen to you”). I started screaming “PLEASE, DON’T LET THIS TO HAPPEN!” ” I ACCEPT I WON’T EVER GO TO THE EARTH AGAIN , I ACCEPT I WON ‘T EVER SEE MY CHILDREN AGAIN, BUT I CAN’T ACCEPT I WILL BE HERE FOREVER”. “NO, PLEASE, DON’T LET THIS TO HAPPEN!” Immediately I heard a group of voices saying at the same time “This is for you to believe”. I answered ” I only believe in the Almighty God.
Then there was a silence.
The torment I was feeling stopped and I started to come down at a high speed again. I found myself back to the ceiling of the hospital room. This time my body was laying on a stretcher and I saw a nurse tapping its face and saying “Haydee, wake up!” I could clearly see her while I was moving down closer. Then I was softly dropped inside my body. The nurse was still tapping my face and calling my name. I opened my eyes and there she was right in front of my face. I looked at her eyes while I was thinking “I wish you knew where I’m coming from”. I couldn’t take the experience away from my mind and I was in a big concern about people in the world. I thought, “The Jehovah Witnesses deceived me, we are Spiritual Beings inside a flesh body and we come out of the body when we die!” People don’t know what can happen to them. They should know about this!”
With this experience I learned that since I didn’t believe in the Son of God I was in darkness. And there is where I went.”
February 11, 2015 at 3:23 pm#789027AndrewADParticipantIt clearly shows her brain was still functioning and she felt fear,and her interpretation of that afterward.
A close friend of mine who wasn’t a”good Christian” at the time and to most wouldn’t be considered as such now,was in a car accident in which he broke his neck.He too left his body and was guided by a light to a large set of gates and a voice spoke which said-you can come in here but if you do you can’t go back.He chose to go back to his body and did.
February 11, 2015 at 6:21 pm#789034MiiaParticipanthi Andrew.
Still, it covers some interesting points.Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t believe in healings or miracles, or visions, etc., and attribute those things in all instances to Satan: a dangerous thing to believe according to scripture.
also, they don’t believe in the intermediate state of the dead nor in the resurrection of the flesh: not even of Jesus.
February 11, 2015 at 9:58 pm#789038ProclaimerParticipantYes the JWs have a lot of false doctrine. Sounds like she found this out through experience.
February 12, 2015 at 10:59 am#789043MiiaParticipantI think some NON Jehovah’s Witnesses may read the Jehovah’s Witnesses booklets and magazines, and carry some of their beliefs with them, without realizing where they originally heard it.
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses still door knock? I haven’t seen them in a while. I heard something about a meeting they went to, and something spooked them. Have to try and find it.
February 15, 2015 at 6:27 pm#789138AndrewADParticipantI’ve known some JW’s and Mormons who are loving and good people.Yes at one time I condemned them all too,which I don’t anymore.As far as I’m concerned they are my Christian brothers and sisters too.Do they believe in Christ? Yes they do;maybe not in the same way as me but everywhere in scripture I read we will be judged by our works and not by our beliefs.
February 17, 2015 at 3:02 pm#789225MiiaParticipantAndrew. Yes of course we love the JW people but we don’t love their false teachings.
If you sit them down in your house and agree to study with them and tell them of a vision or a miracle from God, they will tell you Satan was behind it because that’s what they believe. What did Jesus say when they accused Him of working under the power of Beelzebub? Also, scripture tells us to avoid those who “deny the power” (2Tim 3:5)
February 17, 2015 at 3:43 pm#789226AndrewADParticipantI guess I never discussed miracles with them,but many other fundamentalists may say the same thing-that is miracles are from the devil especially if the one who received the miracle doesn’t agree with their doctrine.
I do believe in miracles and I also believe good things come from God.As far as denying the power goes,that verse is understood in various ways
So do you consider JW’s cessaionists ,like they think all miracles ceased with the apostles?
I used to have a JW friend and he seemed to think God answered prayers and didn’t condemn me for not being a JW.I have met different ones and know they are not all the same even as all baptists or catholics aren’t the same.
February 17, 2015 at 3:58 pm#789227AndrewADParticipantThe more I think about JW’s the more I realize they are not sure about what they believe as most all other Christians.
Wow what a revelation!
February 18, 2015 at 10:16 pm#789257MiiaParticipantAndrew,
Yes they are cessasionists.May 14, 2015 at 4:56 am#797363DavidLParticipantt8
Yes the JWs have a lot of false doctrine. Sounds like she found this out through experience.
..is this what it takes for you too..?
the very reason I’m here is because you hold to the same false doctrine they do – namely denying that Jesus Christ is God.
May 14, 2015 at 6:17 am#797365NickHassanParticipantHi Davidl,
Then whom do you serve?
Jesus Christ sad he was the SON of God.
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