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John 8:44 indicates that he was a murderer from the “beginning,” meaning from our beginning – Adam and Eve – onward.
January 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm#117924NickHassanParticipantHi,
GB seems to think evil is an aspect of God“” Good and Evil are Spirits (intellects) of GOD and they going to and fro through out the earth,”
God is good.
His Spirit is Holy.January 16, 2009 at 11:05 pm#117946chosenoneParticipantNh.
God created evil, can anything exist that was not of God?January 16, 2009 at 11:24 pm#117956NickHassanParticipantCO,
Where is it written?January 16, 2009 at 11:43 pm#117958GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..Then tell us who created the tree of good and evil, if God didn't. then who did, your invisible spook Satan?. God said He created (ALL) things that exist the heavens and the earth and everything in it.. Now we are to believe that there is another Creator being a Spook or Boogie being going around controlling every thing and competing on a level with GOD. You need to reread and think about what Jodi wrote.
Where is the written. It is written in Isaiah as quoted may times here. But you didn't believe it then nor would you believe it now.
peace and love to you………………….gene
January 16, 2009 at 11:49 pm#117959NickHassanParticipantGB,
Where is this tree?
Not in scripture.January 17, 2009 at 12:11 am#117963942767ParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 17 2009,10:43) Nick……..Then tell us who created the tree of good and evil, if God didn't. then who did, your invisible spook Satan?. God said He created (ALL) things that exist the heavens and the earth and everything in it.. Now we are to believe that there is another Creator being a Spook or Boogie being going around controlling every thing and competing on a level with GOD. You need to reread and think about what Jodi wrote. Where is the written. It is written in Isaiah as quoted may times here. But you didn't believe it then nor would you believe it now.
peace and love to you………………….gene
Hi Gene:God did not create evil. He created the serpent and man with the freedom to choose to obey Him or disobey. The good is obedience to God, and the evil is diobedience.
The juice of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil did not somehow seep into Adam and Eve giving them the knowledge of good and evil. God told them not to eat of that one tree (to obey this would have been good and the consequences good), but they disobeyed and so, they had knowledge of good and of evil (they suffered the consequences of disobedience which is death).
Marty
January 17, 2009 at 1:35 am#117973GeneBalthropParticipant942767………. O really, then why does it say He did create evil So was Job evil then. why did God bring evil on Him the, God said He was a perfect and upright man. Why then the evil. Why didn't God choose to keep his shield on him seeing He was a perfect man. God used evil for a good purpose on Job. And scripture says GOD brought this evil on JOB.
What do you do with this scripture Isa 45:….> I form light, and create darkness: i make peace, and create (EVIL): I the LORD do (ALL) these things. Are we now to throw these out of our bibles so the false teaching about Evil can be taught. God created the tree of good and evil and placed it in the garden no one else did.
peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
January 17, 2009 at 1:41 am#117976NickHassanParticipantGB,
So you said evil is of the Spirit of God but now you say it is created by God.“” Good and Evil are Spirits (intellects) of GOD and they going to and fro through out the earth,”
So which is it?
January 17, 2009 at 1:51 am#117979942767ParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 17 2009,12:35) 942767………. O really, then why does it say He did create evil So was Job evil then. why did God bring evil on Him the, God said He was a perfect and upright man. Why then the evil. Why didn't God choose to keep his shield on him seeing He was a perfect man. God used evil for a good purpose on Job. And scripture says GOD brought this evil on JOB. What do you do with this scripture Isa 45:….> I form light, and create darkness: i make peace, and create (EVIL): I the LORD do (ALL) these things. Are we now to throw these out of our bibles so the false teaching about Evil can be taught. God created the tree of good and evil and placed it in the garden no one else did.
peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
Hi Gene:And so, Evil comes from the tree itself? When they ate of the fruit of that tree, the juices of good and evil seeped into Adam and Eve and they knew good and evil?
January 17, 2009 at 1:51 am#117980GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 17 2009,10:49) GB,
Where is this tree?
Not in scripture.
Nick……….again your ignorance comes out , you know full well i am referencing the tree of the (Knowledge )of Good and Evil. This was not a (LITERAL) interesting you can this but can't see the LAKE OF FIRE. But it was written to symbolize the process of acquiring good and evil in a person. It also shows Good and Evil come from one source, You never quit trying do you. You need to stop trying to draw me into saying you can use to buster you creditability which is about Zero now.love and peace……………………gene
January 17, 2009 at 2:53 am#117985NickHassanParticipantSO GB,
Is this your way of agreeing?What is the common source of good and evil?
It is not a tree is it.Is your god not good?
Is he evil as well?January 17, 2009 at 6:56 am#118006GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….God causes both good and evil at times as scripture plainly says. He uses Evil for His purposes as well as good.. The word tree is symbolic, i have expressed this many times Here , Lets hear your definition for what it means Nick. being you brought it up. give us a pearl of your wisdom if you know?
peace and love………………..gene
January 17, 2009 at 7:28 am#118019NickHassanParticipantGb,
You are like a bull in a china shop treating what is sacred with disdain and elevating your carnal ideas.Why are you so lacking in fear of God?
You have the will to change this foolish behaviour.January 17, 2009 at 7:47 am#118021GeneBalthropParticipantNick………..Thank you and your like a mindless wonder who can't stick to subject matter because He doesn't understand what the “scared” scriptures say. So he can support he arguments , so he just start labeling and mis quoting and me lining others. Nick your talk is just gibberish and nothing more in my opinion you have very little understand of God word and many have seen hear, You neither represent God nor support His word how can you , with you carnal mind with out the spirit of God revealing the truth to you. Your just a clanging cymbal all talk and no show.
peace…………………..gene
January 17, 2009 at 6:01 pm#118046NickHassanParticipantGB,
I am careful to show you exactly what you write so this claim of being misquoted lacks substance.Why can you not face what you write and be humble enough to accept this and decide to align with scripture?
Our God is not of evil so you should leave taoism and come to His son.
January 18, 2009 at 6:13 am#118108davidParticipantQuote “This was not a (LITERAL) [tree].” Quote The word tree is symbolic While the tree became a symbol of God’s right to determine or set the standards for man as to what is “good” (approved by God) and what is “bad” (condemned by God), it was a real tree. Or at least, the Bible gives no reason to believe otherwise.
While some modern critics may balk at the very simplicity of the Edenic account, it should be obvious that the actual circumstances made a simple test most fitting. The life of the newly created man and woman was simple, not complicated and encumbered with all the complex problems, predicaments, and perplexity that disobedience to God has since brought to the human race. Nonetheless, for all its simplicity, the test succinctly and admirably expresses the universal truth of God’s sovereignty as well as man’s dependence upon God and his duty toward God.
The simplicity of the test in Eden illustrates the principle stated millenniums later by God’s Son, that “the person faithful in what is least is faithful also in much, and the person unrighteous in what is least is unrighteous also in much.”—Lu 16:10.
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